William Lemmerhirt Audioholic Overlord Jan 8, 2017 12,005 0 113 52 Dec 15, 2021 #2,461 OldAndSlowDev said: When you are talking about upmix, what is it and how to enable it? When I listen to music, my "Music scene" is in Straight mode so stereo is stereo and Atmos is Atmos (I listen to a Clapton recent album until the end, found it really well mixe, then realized it was actually Atmos all the time, so my "music should be stereo" mindset is slowly evolving to a more open mindset). Is there a way to have a stereo input and to get something upmixed to Atmos ? By selecting a specific DSP program ? Click to expand... Yes. DSU(dolby surround) or DTSnx(DTS neuralX)will. DSU is better for music imo. Reactions: jakkedtide, Replicant 7 and little wing
OldAndSlowDev said: When you are talking about upmix, what is it and how to enable it? When I listen to music, my "Music scene" is in Straight mode so stereo is stereo and Atmos is Atmos (I listen to a Clapton recent album until the end, found it really well mixe, then realized it was actually Atmos all the time, so my "music should be stereo" mindset is slowly evolving to a more open mindset). Is there a way to have a stereo input and to get something upmixed to Atmos ? By selecting a specific DSP program ? Click to expand... Yes. DSU(dolby surround) or DTSnx(DTS neuralX)will. DSU is better for music imo.
OldAndSlowDev Senior Audioholic Oct 14, 2021 512 0 16 50 Quebec, QC, Canada Dec 15, 2021 #2,462 William Lemmerhirt said: Yes. DSU(dolby surround) or DTSnx(DTS neuralX)will. DSU is better for music imo. Click to expand... Ok but how to select these mode on the RX-AXA ? I don't see any button or menu to select those.
William Lemmerhirt said: Yes. DSU(dolby surround) or DTSnx(DTS neuralX)will. DSU is better for music imo. Click to expand... Ok but how to select these mode on the RX-AXA ? I don't see any button or menu to select those.
William Lemmerhirt Audioholic Overlord Jan 8, 2017 12,005 0 113 52 Dec 15, 2021 #2,463 OldAndSlowDev said: Ok but how to select these mode on the RX-AXA ? I don't see any button or menu to select those. Click to expand... I don’t know which buttons are on your particular remote. But mine has preset buttons that are “movie”, “music”, “game” and “pure. If i push the music button for example, it brings up all the appropriate sound modes. Like direct, pure direct, DSU DTSnx, etc. then select the one I want. I’ll look for your remote.
OldAndSlowDev said: Ok but how to select these mode on the RX-AXA ? I don't see any button or menu to select those. Click to expand... I don’t know which buttons are on your particular remote. But mine has preset buttons that are “movie”, “music”, “game” and “pure. If i push the music button for example, it brings up all the appropriate sound modes. Like direct, pure direct, DSU DTSnx, etc. then select the one I want. I’ll look for your remote.
VASKION Audioholic Nov 9, 2021 101 0 16 44 Dec 15, 2021 #2,464 OldAndSlowDev said: Ok but how to select these mode on the RX-AXA ? I don't see any button or menu to select those. Click to expand... It should be this one: And another one with some links to other pages in the manual: Reactions: Replicant 7
OldAndSlowDev said: Ok but how to select these mode on the RX-AXA ? I don't see any button or menu to select those. Click to expand... It should be this one: And another one with some links to other pages in the manual:
William Lemmerhirt Audioholic Overlord Jan 8, 2017 12,005 0 113 52 Dec 15, 2021 #2,465 OldAndSlowDev said: Ok but how to select these mode on the RX-AXA ? I don't see any button or menu to select those. Click to expand... So it looks like you just press surround decode button to scroll through the sound modes until you get what you want. RX-A8A | Enjoying multichannel playback without sound field effects (surround decoder) manual.yamaha.com Reactions: AllenB, jakkedtide, Replicant 7 and 1 other person
OldAndSlowDev said: Ok but how to select these mode on the RX-AXA ? I don't see any button or menu to select those. Click to expand... So it looks like you just press surround decode button to scroll through the sound modes until you get what you want. RX-A8A | Enjoying multichannel playback without sound field effects (surround decoder) manual.yamaha.com
William Lemmerhirt Audioholic Overlord Jan 8, 2017 12,005 0 113 52 Dec 15, 2021 #2,466 VASKION said: It should be this one: View attachment 52324 And another one with some links to other pages in the manual: View attachment 52325 Click to expand... I don’t think he’s looking for virtualization. He does have from height speakers. Reactions: OldAndSlowDev and VASKION
VASKION said: It should be this one: View attachment 52324 And another one with some links to other pages in the manual: View attachment 52325 Click to expand... I don’t think he’s looking for virtualization. He does have from height speakers.
Replicant 7 Audioholic Samurai Jun 29, 2021 2,363 0 36 Dec 15, 2021 #2,467 OldAndSlowDev said: Ok but how to select these mode on the RX-AXA ? I don't see any button or menu to select those. Click to expand... Use your (sur-Decode) on your remote for 2.1 music. Just scroll through till you get 2 channel stereo. Once there, you can jump in Options, You can play with Tone Control's, YPAO settings, Enhancer on or off, Extra Bass no or off, Volume Trim if you like. Last edited: Dec 15, 2021 Reactions: OldAndSlowDev
OldAndSlowDev said: Ok but how to select these mode on the RX-AXA ? I don't see any button or menu to select those. Click to expand... Use your (sur-Decode) on your remote for 2.1 music. Just scroll through till you get 2 channel stereo. Once there, you can jump in Options, You can play with Tone Control's, YPAO settings, Enhancer on or off, Extra Bass no or off, Volume Trim if you like.
Replicant 7 Audioholic Samurai Jun 29, 2021 2,363 0 36 Dec 15, 2021 #2,468 William Lemmerhirt said: So it looks like you just press surround decode button to scroll through the sound modes until you get what you want. RX-A8A | Enjoying multichannel playback without sound field effects (surround decoder) manual.yamaha.com Click to expand... You beat me to it, Thanks, big munchie man!! Reactions: OldAndSlowDev
William Lemmerhirt said: So it looks like you just press surround decode button to scroll through the sound modes until you get what you want. RX-A8A | Enjoying multichannel playback without sound field effects (surround decoder) manual.yamaha.com Click to expand... You beat me to it, Thanks, big munchie man!!
OldAndSlowDev Senior Audioholic Oct 14, 2021 512 0 16 50 Quebec, QC, Canada Dec 15, 2021 #2,469 I tried the Straight vs DSurround vs DTS X Neural, the Straight Stereo sound twice as wide as the surround upmixer Yes I am loosing sound coming from surrounds, but I still prefer the wide detailed stereo to the artificial surround upmix. Reactions: AllenB and jakkedtide
I tried the Straight vs DSurround vs DTS X Neural, the Straight Stereo sound twice as wide as the surround upmixer Yes I am loosing sound coming from surrounds, but I still prefer the wide detailed stereo to the artificial surround upmix.
William Lemmerhirt Audioholic Overlord Jan 8, 2017 12,005 0 113 52 Dec 15, 2021 #2,470 Replicant 7 said: You beat me to it, Thanks, big munchie man!! Click to expand... Roger that! Waiting to hear what he thinks. Reactions: Replicant 7
Replicant 7 said: You beat me to it, Thanks, big munchie man!! Click to expand... Roger that! Waiting to hear what he thinks.
Replicant 7 Audioholic Samurai Jun 29, 2021 2,363 0 36 Dec 15, 2021 #2,471 OldAndSlowDev said: I tried the Straight vs DSurround vs DTS X Neural, the Straight Stereo sound twice as wide as the surround upmixer Yes I am loosing sound coming from surrounds, but I still prefer the wide detailed stereo to the artificial surround upmix. Click to expand... Have you tried just 2.1 or 2.2 since you have two Subs. I like just 2.1 for music. I gotta small living room and sit about 10ft from mains. I seeing younger fellows like those sound fields for music use. Guess I'm old school with my boring 2.1 stereo only for music only use. Last edited: Dec 15, 2021
OldAndSlowDev said: I tried the Straight vs DSurround vs DTS X Neural, the Straight Stereo sound twice as wide as the surround upmixer Yes I am loosing sound coming from surrounds, but I still prefer the wide detailed stereo to the artificial surround upmix. Click to expand... Have you tried just 2.1 or 2.2 since you have two Subs. I like just 2.1 for music. I gotta small living room and sit about 10ft from mains. I seeing younger fellows like those sound fields for music use. Guess I'm old school with my boring 2.1 stereo only for music only use.
OldAndSlowDev Senior Audioholic Oct 14, 2021 512 0 16 50 Quebec, QC, Canada Dec 15, 2021 #2,472 Replicant 7 said: Have you tried just 2.1 or 2.2 since you have two Subs. I like just 2.1 for music. I gotta small living room and sit about 10ft from mains. I seeing younger fellows like those sound fields for music use. Guess I'm old school with my boring 2.1 stereo only for music only use. Click to expand... Even in stereo my setup is 2.2. I now know (thank you to all the people that took the time to write half a billion post to teach me) that if I am setting my front speakers as small, then for frequencies under the selected crossover, subs will be used. So I have six amps driving my stereo One for medium high, on for lows, and the sub amp... This setup makes me feel like I am an audiophile Reactions: Replicant 7 and VASKION
Replicant 7 said: Have you tried just 2.1 or 2.2 since you have two Subs. I like just 2.1 for music. I gotta small living room and sit about 10ft from mains. I seeing younger fellows like those sound fields for music use. Guess I'm old school with my boring 2.1 stereo only for music only use. Click to expand... Even in stereo my setup is 2.2. I now know (thank you to all the people that took the time to write half a billion post to teach me) that if I am setting my front speakers as small, then for frequencies under the selected crossover, subs will be used. So I have six amps driving my stereo One for medium high, on for lows, and the sub amp... This setup makes me feel like I am an audiophile
Replicant 7 Audioholic Samurai Jun 29, 2021 2,363 0 36 Dec 15, 2021 #2,473 OldAndSlowDev said: Even in stereo my setup is 2.2. I now know (thank you to all the people that took the time to write half a billion post to teach me) that if I am setting my front speakers as small, then for frequencies under the selected crossover, subs will be used. So I have six amps driving my stereo One for medium high, on for lows, and the sub amp... This setup makes me feel like I am an audiophile Click to expand... How about this, try your L/R mains set to full, also use it set, 2.2, play around with Tone Control's some dial in your two Subs at just below your L/R main bass Output. That's what I do for 2.1 music only use.
OldAndSlowDev said: Even in stereo my setup is 2.2. I now know (thank you to all the people that took the time to write half a billion post to teach me) that if I am setting my front speakers as small, then for frequencies under the selected crossover, subs will be used. So I have six amps driving my stereo One for medium high, on for lows, and the sub amp... This setup makes me feel like I am an audiophile Click to expand... How about this, try your L/R mains set to full, also use it set, 2.2, play around with Tone Control's some dial in your two Subs at just below your L/R main bass Output. That's what I do for 2.1 music only use.
OldAndSlowDev Senior Audioholic Oct 14, 2021 512 0 16 50 Quebec, QC, Canada Dec 15, 2021 #2,474 Watching Arcane (for the second time). Trying DTS X Neural (up mixing 5.1). It’s very different from the Dolby up mixer. It clearly uses the front height speakers while Dolby doesn’t. I take any advice Cool to have learned that multiple press on Surround Decoder loops between mode Reactions: Replicant 7
Watching Arcane (for the second time). Trying DTS X Neural (up mixing 5.1). It’s very different from the Dolby up mixer. It clearly uses the front height speakers while Dolby doesn’t. I take any advice Cool to have learned that multiple press on Surround Decoder loops between mode
Replicant 7 Audioholic Samurai Jun 29, 2021 2,363 0 36 Dec 15, 2021 #2,475 OldAndSlowDev said: Watching Arcane (for the second time). Trying DTS X Neural (up mixing 5.1). It’s very different from the Dolby up mixer. It clearly uses the front height speakers while Dolby doesn’t. I take any advice Cool to have learned that multiple press on Surround Decoder loops between mode Click to expand... Yeah, DTS-X is my favorite for 4k movie use Reactions: OldAndSlowDev
OldAndSlowDev said: Watching Arcane (for the second time). Trying DTS X Neural (up mixing 5.1). It’s very different from the Dolby up mixer. It clearly uses the front height speakers while Dolby doesn’t. I take any advice Cool to have learned that multiple press on Surround Decoder loops between mode Click to expand... Yeah, DTS-X is my favorite for 4k movie use
Replicant 7 Audioholic Samurai Jun 29, 2021 2,363 0 36 Dec 15, 2021 #2,476 @OldAndSlowDev , you have a nice setup bro your gonna get many year's of enjoyment out of it.
OldAndSlowDev Senior Audioholic Oct 14, 2021 512 0 16 50 Quebec, QC, Canada Dec 15, 2021 #2,477 Replicant 7 said: @OldAndSlowDev , you have a nice setup bro your gonna get many year's of enjoyment out of it. Click to expand... Yes I am really enjoying it. But after watching Dune, I start to think about a 85inches TV Reactions: Replicant 7 and diablo676
Replicant 7 said: @OldAndSlowDev , you have a nice setup bro your gonna get many year's of enjoyment out of it. Click to expand... Yes I am really enjoying it. But after watching Dune, I start to think about a 85inches TV
OldAndSlowDev Senior Audioholic Oct 14, 2021 512 0 16 50 Quebec, QC, Canada Dec 15, 2021 #2,478 For 5.1 I prefer AI decoder to DTS Neural X to Dolby Surround. For Atmos I feel It performs better with Surround Decoder than with AI Decoder.
For 5.1 I prefer AI decoder to DTS Neural X to Dolby Surround. For Atmos I feel It performs better with Surround Decoder than with AI Decoder.
Replicant 7 Audioholic Samurai Jun 29, 2021 2,363 0 36 Dec 15, 2021 #2,479 OldAndSlowDev said: Yes I am really enjoying it. But after watching Dune, I start to think about a 85inches TV Click to expand... Yep, your definitely a AH!! We are, you ever watch The Walking Dead? Well we are All Negan!
OldAndSlowDev said: Yes I am really enjoying it. But after watching Dune, I start to think about a 85inches TV Click to expand... Yep, your definitely a AH!! We are, you ever watch The Walking Dead? Well we are All Negan!
TheLamonster Audioholic Intern May 27, 2021 34 0 6 42 Dec 15, 2021 #2,480 Does the Dolby Surround Decoder even do anything vs Straight when the source is Atmos? Same question applies to native DTS X mixes.
Does the Dolby Surround Decoder even do anything vs Straight when the source is Atmos? Same question applies to native DTS X mixes.
