I just wish that I could get a 6. Several methods have been suggested. #1 is stop walking your dog in the desert. Women do not hang out in deserts. I got 2 words for you my chaste friend ... dog park. :) Real men hang 5/8" x 14' sheets :p Ginormous wusses need jobs too, ya know. All I know is that it was a good thing for me that the door frames were set out of plumb. Fixing that is time consuming and it means you carry and screw fewer sheets. If the sheets had been 10's and the work was straight forward I would be hurtin' for certain. I want all you guys who post from work to have a nice day ... no ... really. :rolleyes: :p