M mtrot Senior Audioholic Oct 12, 2011 579 0 28 E. Texas Jan 12, 2022 #3,201 For those of us using a separate amp for the front L/R channels, what about the pre-out voltage on these Yamaha and Denon AVR's with respect to their ability to drive power amps? I saw in one of Amir's Denon reviews that the output was very good up to about 1.4 volts, after which distortion rose. Well, my power amp's input sensitivity is 2.7Vrms. I also saw in Gene's review of the A6A that the XLR pre-out put out something like 8 volts and the rca pre-outs somewhere around 4 volts. But at what distortion level? Is this an issue for my power amp? I'm needing a new AVR and considering A6A, 3700, 4700, or used 6500.
For those of us using a separate amp for the front L/R channels, what about the pre-out voltage on these Yamaha and Denon AVR's with respect to their ability to drive power amps? I saw in one of Amir's Denon reviews that the output was very good up to about 1.4 volts, after which distortion rose. Well, my power amp's input sensitivity is 2.7Vrms. I also saw in Gene's review of the A6A that the XLR pre-out put out something like 8 volts and the rca pre-outs somewhere around 4 volts. But at what distortion level? Is this an issue for my power amp? I'm needing a new AVR and considering A6A, 3700, 4700, or used 6500.
Majorusa Junior Audioholic Oct 22, 2021 73 0 6 58 Jan 13, 2022 #3,202 Torqueflite said: Ohm question. In the owners manual and on the unit itself the A4A it states that the rear and height speakers must be 8 ohms or higher. Thinking of getting new rear and matching height speakers but a lot of them seem to be 4 or 6 ohm. Is this as big a deal as is made out to be for this amp? Also how much do you who have height speakers enjoy them? Watched a video from some Polk engineers who claimed that all new speakers are 4 ohms anyway. Click to expand... In the A8A and A4A manual it's like this. I do not know where you got the minimum 8 ohm.
Torqueflite said: Ohm question. In the owners manual and on the unit itself the A4A it states that the rear and height speakers must be 8 ohms or higher. Thinking of getting new rear and matching height speakers but a lot of them seem to be 4 or 6 ohm. Is this as big a deal as is made out to be for this amp? Also how much do you who have height speakers enjoy them? Watched a video from some Polk engineers who claimed that all new speakers are 4 ohms anyway. Click to expand... In the A8A and A4A manual it's like this. I do not know where you got the minimum 8 ohm.
Replicant 7 Audioholic Samurai Jun 29, 2021 2,363 0 36 Jan 13, 2022 #3,203 OldAndSlowDev said: I play music at max level for 24h with a heater under the amp in order to get this warm enough. Then I think the fan would start to spin and I will be able to grind coffee beans, then adding water I am on something Click to expand... I'm gonna check today and see if my RX-A4A has them two Droid fans on the inside at the bottom. Last edited: Jan 13, 2022
OldAndSlowDev said: I play music at max level for 24h with a heater under the amp in order to get this warm enough. Then I think the fan would start to spin and I will be able to grind coffee beans, then adding water I am on something Click to expand... I'm gonna check today and see if my RX-A4A has them two Droid fans on the inside at the bottom.
SithZedi Audioholic General Jan 1, 2022 1,413 0 36 63 Jan 13, 2022 #3,204 Crutchfield had a few scratch and dents A6As available last night but they're gone already. Anyone have any experience buying scratch and dents from them? Assuming its cosmetic.
Crutchfield had a few scratch and dents A6As available last night but they're gone already. Anyone have any experience buying scratch and dents from them? Assuming its cosmetic.
Torqueflite Enthusiast Dec 6, 2021 21 0 1 68 Jan 13, 2022 #3,205 SithZedi said: Crutchfield had a few scratch and dents A6As available last night but they're gone already. Anyone have any experience buying scratch and dents from them? Assuming its cosmetic. Click to expand... They won’t sell if it’s real bad. Usually back and sides. I got open box and I couldn’t see anything
SithZedi said: Crutchfield had a few scratch and dents A6As available last night but they're gone already. Anyone have any experience buying scratch and dents from them? Assuming its cosmetic. Click to expand... They won’t sell if it’s real bad. Usually back and sides. I got open box and I couldn’t see anything
SithZedi Audioholic General Jan 1, 2022 1,413 0 36 63 Jan 13, 2022 #3,206 Torqueflite said: They won’t sell if it’s real bad. Usually back and sides. I got open box and I couldn’t see anything Click to expand... Many thanks. Will give it a shot if I see it again.
Torqueflite said: They won’t sell if it’s real bad. Usually back and sides. I got open box and I couldn’t see anything Click to expand... Many thanks. Will give it a shot if I see it again.
T tparm Audioholic Dec 22, 2014 230 0 16 54 Jan 13, 2022 #3,207 SithZedi said: Crutchfield had a few scratch and dents A6As available last night but they're gone already. Anyone have any experience buying scratch and dents from them? Assuming its cosmetic. Click to expand... I live about 4 miles from their Harrisonburg store, about 85% of the time there isn't even cosmetic damage. Sometimes the box is messed up, every once in a while the original packaging is missing or opened and then sometimes as already mentioned there are a few scratches but not usually visible during normal use.
SithZedi said: Crutchfield had a few scratch and dents A6As available last night but they're gone already. Anyone have any experience buying scratch and dents from them? Assuming its cosmetic. Click to expand... I live about 4 miles from their Harrisonburg store, about 85% of the time there isn't even cosmetic damage. Sometimes the box is messed up, every once in a while the original packaging is missing or opened and then sometimes as already mentioned there are a few scratches but not usually visible during normal use.
SithZedi Audioholic General Jan 1, 2022 1,413 0 36 63 Jan 13, 2022 #3,208 Thanks. The 10% discount they gave last night makes it worth it. The search goes on.
T tparm Audioholic Dec 22, 2014 230 0 16 54 Jan 13, 2022 #3,209 Most of their outlet stuff is housed in their Charlottesville location, but if there are specific items you guys would like me to check out let me know. They can bring things over here, usually takes a day or two. Maybe I can get on their payroll. Reactions: SithZedi
Most of their outlet stuff is housed in their Charlottesville location, but if there are specific items you guys would like me to check out let me know. They can bring things over here, usually takes a day or two. Maybe I can get on their payroll.
G Golfx Senior Audioholic Nov 28, 2020 643 0 16 79 Suffolk, VA Jan 13, 2022 #3,210 Crutchfield is one of those companies with the right leadership that treats all their customers as family. I will pay more just to buy from them instead of their competitors. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Reactions: SithZedi
Crutchfield is one of those companies with the right leadership that treats all their customers as family. I will pay more just to buy from them instead of their competitors. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
T tparm Audioholic Dec 22, 2014 230 0 16 54 Jan 13, 2022 #3,211 No front wide channel support with Yamaha, correct? Current set up is 5.2.6 w/ four overhead and front wides. Thanks
No front wide channel support with Yamaha, correct? Current set up is 5.2.6 w/ four overhead and front wides. Thanks
OldAndSlowDev Senior Audioholic Oct 14, 2021 512 0 16 50 Quebec, QC, Canada Jan 13, 2022 #3,212 tparm said: No front wide channel support with Yamaha, correct? Current set up is 5.2.6 w/ four overhead and front wides. Thanks Click to expand... Front wide is a feature that has been removed by Dolby if I remember correctly.
tparm said: No front wide channel support with Yamaha, correct? Current set up is 5.2.6 w/ four overhead and front wides. Thanks Click to expand... Front wide is a feature that has been removed by Dolby if I remember correctly.
T tparm Audioholic Dec 22, 2014 230 0 16 54 Jan 13, 2022 #3,213 OldAndSlowDev said: Front wide is a feature that has been removed by Dolby if I remember correctly. Click to expand... Hmm, can you confirm that 100%? I hadn't heard that. The last document from Dolby I can find is 12/2018 and references wide channels frequently. Thanks Last edited: Jan 13, 2022
OldAndSlowDev said: Front wide is a feature that has been removed by Dolby if I remember correctly. Click to expand... Hmm, can you confirm that 100%? I hadn't heard that. The last document from Dolby I can find is 12/2018 and references wide channels frequently. Thanks
OldAndSlowDev Senior Audioholic Oct 14, 2021 512 0 16 50 Quebec, QC, Canada Jan 13, 2022 #3,214 tparm said: Hmm, can you confirm that 100%? I hadn't heard that. The last document from Dolby I can find is 12/2018 and references wide channels frequently. Thanks Click to expand... Dolby Eliminates Key Feature for Enhancing 2CH Music When Dolby released Atmos, it was done in concert with their surround upmixer which does a great job enhancing 2CH music thanks to a key feature Dolby is now removing from new products. Let's get it back! www.audioholics.com
tparm said: Hmm, can you confirm that 100%? I hadn't heard that. The last document from Dolby I can find is 12/2018 and references wide channels frequently. Thanks Click to expand... Dolby Eliminates Key Feature for Enhancing 2CH Music When Dolby released Atmos, it was done in concert with their surround upmixer which does a great job enhancing 2CH music thanks to a key feature Dolby is now removing from new products. Let's get it back! www.audioholics.com
T tparm Audioholic Dec 22, 2014 230 0 16 54 Jan 13, 2022 #3,215 OldAndSlowDev said: Dolby Eliminates Key Feature for Enhancing 2CH Music When Dolby released Atmos, it was done in concert with their surround upmixer which does a great job enhancing 2CH music thanks to a key feature Dolby is now removing from new products. Let's get it back! www.audioholics.com Click to expand... Sorry but that has nothing to do with native Atmos formats or front wide channels actually. That is center spread. totally different and refers to upmixing 2CH formats.
OldAndSlowDev said: Dolby Eliminates Key Feature for Enhancing 2CH Music When Dolby released Atmos, it was done in concert with their surround upmixer which does a great job enhancing 2CH music thanks to a key feature Dolby is now removing from new products. Let's get it back! www.audioholics.com Click to expand... Sorry but that has nothing to do with native Atmos formats or front wide channels actually. That is center spread. totally different and refers to upmixing 2CH formats.
OldAndSlowDev Senior Audioholic Oct 14, 2021 512 0 16 50 Quebec, QC, Canada Jan 13, 2022 #3,216 tparm said: Sorry but that has nothing to do with native Atmos formats or front wide channels actually. That is center spread. totally different and refers to upmixing 2CH formats. Click to expand... OK I wasn't sure you were speaking of this feature. Reactions: tparm
tparm said: Sorry but that has nothing to do with native Atmos formats or front wide channels actually. That is center spread. totally different and refers to upmixing 2CH formats. Click to expand... OK I wasn't sure you were speaking of this feature.
AcuDefTechGuy Audioholic Jedi Jul 10, 2007 34,057 0 113 Jan 13, 2022 #3,217 tparm said: No front wide channel support with Yamaha, correct? Current set up is 5.2.6 w/ four overhead and front wides. Thanks Click to expand... "Since 2016 all receiver manufacturers have dropped front wide channel support and these models are no exceptions." Yamaha RX-A8A vs Yamaha RX-A6A: Comprehensive Comparison Compare the Yamaha RX-A8A and Yamaha RX-A6A. Discover the differences in features, specs, performance, and find out which A/V receiver is the best for you. www.zkelectronics.com
tparm said: No front wide channel support with Yamaha, correct? Current set up is 5.2.6 w/ four overhead and front wides. Thanks Click to expand... "Since 2016 all receiver manufacturers have dropped front wide channel support and these models are no exceptions." Yamaha RX-A8A vs Yamaha RX-A6A: Comprehensive Comparison Compare the Yamaha RX-A8A and Yamaha RX-A6A. Discover the differences in features, specs, performance, and find out which A/V receiver is the best for you. www.zkelectronics.com
T tparm Audioholic Dec 22, 2014 230 0 16 54 Jan 13, 2022 #3,218 AcuDefTechGuy said: "Since 2016 all receiver manufacturers have dropped front wide channel support and these models are no exceptions." Yamaha RX-A8A vs Yamaha RX-A6A: Comprehensive Comparison Compare the Yamaha RX-A8A and Yamaha RX-A6A. Discover the differences in features, specs, performance, and find out which A/V receiver is the best for you. www.zkelectronics.com Click to expand... ?? All D&M and Pros and AVRs, all Anthem products and also the HTP-1 support front wide channels. Question is does Dolby mix for them natively.
AcuDefTechGuy said: "Since 2016 all receiver manufacturers have dropped front wide channel support and these models are no exceptions." Yamaha RX-A8A vs Yamaha RX-A6A: Comprehensive Comparison Compare the Yamaha RX-A8A and Yamaha RX-A6A. Discover the differences in features, specs, performance, and find out which A/V receiver is the best for you. www.zkelectronics.com Click to expand... ?? All D&M and Pros and AVRs, all Anthem products and also the HTP-1 support front wide channels. Question is does Dolby mix for them natively.
William Lemmerhirt Audioholic Overlord Jan 8, 2017 12,005 0 113 52 Jan 13, 2022 #3,219 tparm said: ?? All D&M and Pros and AVRs, all Anthem products and also the HTP-1 support front wide channels. Question is does Dolby mix for them natively. Click to expand... AFAIK, no they don’t natively. But DSU last I heard, still does support wides. The “other” forum has covered this recently again it seems like.
tparm said: ?? All D&M and Pros and AVRs, all Anthem products and also the HTP-1 support front wide channels. Question is does Dolby mix for them natively. Click to expand... AFAIK, no they don’t natively. But DSU last I heard, still does support wides. The “other” forum has covered this recently again it seems like.
Trell Audioholic Spartan Dec 12, 2018 7,073 0 63 ::1 Jan 13, 2022 #3,220 tparm said: ?? All D&M and Pros and AVRs, all Anthem products and also the HTP-1 support front wide channels. Question is does Dolby mix for them natively. Click to expand... The 2016 Denon AVR-X4300H dropped front wide, for instance. The "OFFICIAL" 2016 Denon "S-Series"... The "OFFICIAL" 2016 Denon "S-Series" / "X-Series" AVR Owner's Thread + FAQ 2016 Denon AVR models ---> S510BT/S720W/S920W/X1300W/X2300W/X3300W/X4300H/X6300H The D+M Group USA (Denon/Marantz) has released information on the new 2016 Denon models. The X6300H will be the highest model released... www.avsforum.com
tparm said: ?? All D&M and Pros and AVRs, all Anthem products and also the HTP-1 support front wide channels. Question is does Dolby mix for them natively. Click to expand... The 2016 Denon AVR-X4300H dropped front wide, for instance. The "OFFICIAL" 2016 Denon "S-Series"... The "OFFICIAL" 2016 Denon "S-Series" / "X-Series" AVR Owner's Thread + FAQ 2016 Denon AVR models ---> S510BT/S720W/S920W/X1300W/X2300W/X3300W/X4300H/X6300H The D+M Group USA (Denon/Marantz) has released information on the new 2016 Denon models. The X6300H will be the highest model released... www.avsforum.com
