Yamaha AVENTAGE 2021 AV Receivers Bulk Up on Power and 8K Features

[William Lemmerhirt]

When you are talking about upmix, what is it and how to enable it? When I listen to music, my "Music scene" is in Straight mode so stereo is stereo and Atmos is Atmos (I listen to a Clapton recent album until the end, found it really well mixe, then realized it was actually Atmos all the time, so my "music should be stereo" mindset is slowly evolving to a more open mindset). Is there a way to have a stereo input and to get something upmixed to Atmos ? By selecting a specific DSP program ?

Yes. DSU(dolby surround) or DTSnx(DTS neuralX)will. DSU is better for music imo.

 

[OldAndSlowDev]

Yes. DSU(dolby surround) or DTSnx(DTS neuralX)will. DSU is better for music imo.

Ok but how to select these mode on the RX-AXA ? I don't see any button or menu to select those.

 

[William Lemmerhirt]

Ok but how to select these mode on the RX-AXA ? I don't see any button or menu to select those.

I don’t know which buttons are on your particular remote. But mine has preset buttons that are “movie”, “music”, “game” and “pure. If i push the music button for example, it brings up all the appropriate sound modes. Like direct, pure direct, DSU DTSnx, etc. then select the one I want. I’ll look for your remote.

 

[VASKION]

Ok but how to select these mode on the RX-AXA ? I don't see any button or menu to select those.

It should be this one:

And another one with some links to other pages in the manual:

 

[William Lemmerhirt]

Ok but how to select these mode on the RX-AXA ? I don't see any button or menu to select those.

So it looks like you just press surround decode button to scroll through the sound modes until you get what you want.

RX-A8A | Enjoying multichannel playback without sound field effects (surround decoder)

manual.yamaha.com

 

[William Lemmerhirt]

It should be this one:
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And another one with some links to other pages in the manual:
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I don’t think he’s looking for virtualization. He does have from height speakers.

 

[Replicant 7]

Ok but how to select these mode on the RX-AXA ? I don't see any button or menu to select those.

Use your (sur-Decode) on your remote for 2.1 music. Just scroll through till you get 2 channel stereo. Once there, you can jump in Options, You can play with Tone Control's, YPAO settings, Enhancer on or off, Extra Bass no or off, Volume Trim if you like.

 

[Replicant 7]

So it looks like you just press surround decode button to scroll through the sound modes until you get what you want.

RX-A8A | Enjoying multichannel playback without sound field effects (surround decoder)

manual.yamaha.com

You beat me to it, Thanks, big munchie man!!

 

[OldAndSlowDev]

I tried the Straight vs DSurround vs DTS X Neural, the Straight Stereo sound twice as wide as the surround upmixer Yes I am loosing sound coming from surrounds, but I still prefer the wide detailed stereo to the artificial surround upmix.

 

[William Lemmerhirt]

You beat me to it, Thanks, big munchie man!!

Roger that! Waiting to hear what he thinks.

 

[Replicant 7]

I tried the Straight vs DSurround vs DTS X Neural, the Straight Stereo sound twice as wide as the surround upmixer Yes I am loosing sound coming from surrounds, but I still prefer the wide detailed stereo to the artificial surround upmix.

Have you tried just 2.1 or 2.2 since you have two Subs. I like just 2.1 for music. I gotta small living room and sit about 10ft from mains. I seeing younger fellows like those sound fields for music use. Guess I'm old school with my boring 2.1 stereo only for music only use.

 

[OldAndSlowDev]

Have you tried just 2.1 or 2.2 since you have two Subs. I like just 2.1 for music. I gotta small living room and sit about 10ft from mains. I seeing younger fellows like those sound fields for music use. Guess I'm old school with my boring 2.1 stereo only for music only use.

Even in stereo my setup is 2.2. I now know (thank you to all the people that took the time to write half a billion post to teach me) that if I am setting my front speakers as small, then for frequencies under the selected crossover, subs will be used. So I have six amps driving my stereo One for medium high, on for lows, and the sub amp... This setup makes me feel like I am an audiophile

 

[Replicant 7]

Even in stereo my setup is 2.2. I now know (thank you to all the people that took the time to write half a billion post to teach me) that if I am setting my front speakers as small, then for frequencies under the selected crossover, subs will be used. So I have six amps driving my stereo One for medium high, on for lows, and the sub amp... This setup makes me feel like I am an audiophile

How about this, try your L/R mains set to full, also use it set, 2.2, play around with Tone Control's some dial in your two Subs at just below your L/R main bass Output. That's what I do for 2.1 music only use.

 

[OldAndSlowDev]

Watching Arcane (for the second time). Trying DTS X Neural (up mixing 5.1). It’s very different from the Dolby up mixer. It clearly uses the front height speakers while Dolby doesn’t.

I take any advice
Cool to have learned that multiple press on Surround Decoder loops between mode

 

[Replicant 7]

Watching Arcane (for the second time). Trying DTS X Neural (up mixing 5.1). It’s very different from the Dolby up mixer. It clearly uses the front height speakers while Dolby doesn’t.

I take any advice
Cool to have learned that multiple press on Surround Decoder loops between mode

Yeah, DTS-X is my favorite for 4k movie use

 

[Replicant 7]

@OldAndSlowDev , you have a nice setup bro your gonna get many year's of enjoyment out of it.

 

[OldAndSlowDev]

@OldAndSlowDev , you have a nice setup bro your gonna get many year's of enjoyment out of it.

Yes I am really enjoying it. But after watching Dune, I start to think about a 85inches TV

 

[OldAndSlowDev]

For 5.1 I prefer AI decoder to DTS Neural X to Dolby Surround. For Atmos I feel It performs better with Surround Decoder than with AI Decoder.

 

[Replicant 7]

Yes I am really enjoying it. But after watching Dune, I start to think about a 85inches TV

Yep, your definitely a AH!! We are, you ever watch The Walking Dead? Well we are All Negan!

 

[TheLamonster]

Does the Dolby Surround Decoder even do anything vs Straight when the source is Atmos? Same question applies to native DTS X mixes.