Incongruous media coverage of Rittenhouse vs actual testimony

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1st off sorry.

Some of this is from 'Defund the Police' initiatives and it hasn't been working out too well. It also disproportionately affects minority and lower socio-economic groups.

The crime was bad before they reduced MPD funding but as I wrote, roughly 500 officers have left in recent years and they haven't been able to replace many of them and I have to wonder how the Fire & Police Commission Mayor and Common Council can look at themselves in the mirror without puking. I can't imagine how they could do a worse job but at least this isn't Detroit, Chicago or a few other places. OTOH, Chicagoans do contribute to the problems because they only need to travel about 80 miles to get here.

Denzel Washington is seen in several videos saying "It starts in the home. Where are their fathers. Where are their mothers. If they can't have a father at home, they'll find one in the streets". Washington mentions the time he was being driven somewhere and he noticed kids wearing their masks on the side of their heads and he asked the driver about that. He was told of Lil Yummy.

One Tragic Story of Robert ''Yummy'' Sandifer

Who's Robert "Yummy" Sandifer? Why Tupac Talk About Yummy? He was an American street gang member from Chicago.

2paclegacy.net

He can be seen in a couple of college commencement speeches, too- makes a lot of sense IMO, and I seriously doubt he would vote for a Republican.

Young kids committing major crimes isn't new here- in 1976, the father of a friend from a high school job was entering his business to do maintenance on some of the arcade machines early one morning and as he was unlocking the door, three teenaged kids appeared- ages were 12, 13 and 15. He was shot by the 13 year old and he died.

 

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Drug gangs, are out of control. Which are supplied by the drug cartels. My thing is, where are all those Mobs and or the AL Sharpingtons, at when it's black on black's killing? Or 9 year old children gets gunned down from drive by shootings? You don't see them double standard fools stand up for the grieving mother of their child thats gunned down. Plus those very gangs, are giving money to their Hood area. So no one will saying anything. This applies to all colors and creeds.

 

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And it does not matter. It is immaterial to his affirmative self defense claims. If it was material then it would have negated that.

I'm not saying that he didn't have the right to defend himself but I think we haven't seen much about why any of the three tried to grab his weapon- doesn't seem like a good idea, unless he was handling it in a way that gave them the impression that it could be easily taken. Only one was armed and, according to the link, Rosenbaum "was unarmed and carried a plastic bag containing a toothbrush, toothpaste, socks, deodorant and some papers " and "According to Rittenhouse's lawyers, Rosenbaum approached Rittenhouse and attempted to "engage" him. Afraid, Rittenhouse took off running and Rosenbaum gave chase. Videos of the incident show that Rosenbaum eventually threw the plastic bag he was carrying at Rittenhouse, who responded by firing four shots at the man."

Yeah, having a bag thrown at him needed to be met with four shots. Sorry, I disagree.

My point- he shouldn't have gone with a gun of any kind. I doubt his life would have been at risk but we can't know that. However, it kind of removes the 'peaceful' from 'peaceful protesters', doesn't it?

If people want to protest, great- let's stamp out injustice, but they shouldn't be armed because those events are never calm and rarely peaceful. Certainly can't be said that peoples' emotional state is on an even plane. It's like walking into a room with open containers of fuel while holding a match because it's dark and the lights don't work.

This link has a bit of info about the three who were shot by Rittenhouse.

What we know about the 3 men who were shot by Kyle Rittenhouse

On Aug. 25, 2020, Kyle Rittenhouse shot and killed Joseph Rosenbaum and Anthony Huber and wounded Gaige Grosskreutz.

www.npr.org

 

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He worked in Kenosha. His father, Grandmother, etc live in Kenosha.



Yes. So should have Rosenbaum, Huber, Grosskreutz, Zaminsky. You can't put a bunch of turkeys in an oven, turn on the heat and only expect one to cook.



Well, that part. and I 100% agree. IMO Zaminsky is the one whom tipped the first domino. Everything after that was a chain reaction and easy to judge in hindsight.

Working in Kenosha doesn't make him a resident. Would like to see comments about him being there, from the grandparents.

Your second point- I don't know how many times I have to say the same thing.

Again, with the Turkeys. Looking forward to Thanksgiving?

Buying the gun, no problem. Hanging out at his friends' place and shooting, no problem. Planning to do the transfer of ownership after he turns 18- commendable because he wasn't planning to own it illegally- not breaking any laws. Taking that gun across state lines as a minor and going to a protest for a police shooting by someone who idolizes the police and thinking they need to be there to help, HUGE problems.

 

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Afraid, Rittenhouse took off running and Rosenbaum gave chase. Videos of the incident show that Rosenbaum eventually threw the plastic bag he was carrying at Rittenhouse, who responded by firing four shots at the man."

Now I'm frustrated with you.

Watch the Hernandez video. He had two cameras on him.

KR is coming through a parking lot. Rosenbaum comes from the side and gives chase. As this is happening KR is running into a choke point in the parking lot and Ziminsky fires his pistol. KR turns around at this, Rosenbaum lunges and grabs the barrel of KR's rifle and four shots are fired by KR. Rosenbaum had powder residue on his hand consistent with grabbing the rifle barrel.

I'm wanting everyone, including KR, to be held accountable. I was hoping the DA would have had a series of lesser charges that they could have reasonable shown that he broke the law and at the very least be barred from owning a gun.

Black, Ziminsky have trial dates.

I'm not sure what you want: Rosenbaum was a mentally disturbed individual, just released from a mental hospital that day, made prior threats to kill KR, and according to the prosecutions own witness (McGuiness) said "PHuck You!" and lunged for the gun.

Rosenbaum was in the mental hospital for attempted suicide.

 

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Working in Kenosha doesn't make him a resident. Would like to see comments about him being there, from the grandparents.

He still had ties. He's not a outsider from some far away distant land.

Buying the gun, no problem. Hanging out at his friends' place and shooting, no problem. Planning to do the transfer of ownership after he turns 18- commendable because he wasn't planning to own it illegally- not breaking any laws. Taking that gun across state lines as a minor and going to a protest for a police shooting by someone who idolizes the police and thinking they need to be there to help, HUGE problems.

I agree. But doesn't make him guilty or the instigator. Ziminsky and Grosskreutz also were gunned up.

 

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Here's my main issue and it's why this stuff will repeat itself:

The three assailants all have undeniable responsibility. But MSM doesn't want to hold them accountable. They all three had records and two of them certifiably nutz.

 

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He still had ties. He's not a outsider from some far away distant land.

I agree. But doesn't make him guilty or the instigator. Ziminsky and Grosskreutz also were gunned up.

I have ties to California but that doesn't mean I want to live there or be involved in protests that are location-specific.

I don't think I had seen Ziminski's name but after seeing his photo, I remember seeing his alias, Alan Blaine. What a piece of work.

If this link is truthful, I'm surprised he wasn't a central figure in this case. Probably because his trial is coming and it would cause any potential jurors to be prejudiced.

Joshua Ziminski: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know

Joshua Ziminski has come up many times in the Kyle Rittenhouse trial.

heavy.com

The link has this- "Conservative political journalist Jack Posobiec claimed that an FBI infrared video shows the image glowing, meaning it couldn’t be the rifle because infrared picks up body heat. Others have claimed a white blur in one of the prosecution’s photos was there before Rittenhouse entered the frame."- oh, so a journalist is an expert on infrared?

His comment is bullcrap- IR cameras show ANY heat or light source in that range of wavelengths. How many cop chases show the bright glow from wheels, hood and exhaust on the car being chased? ALL OF THEM! If anyone wants to see IR and they have an iPhone with the Facetime camera or an older smartphone or video recorder- aim a remote control at the lens and press a button- the emitter(s) will easily be seen while it's transmitting. Last time I checked, the end of a remote control doesn't get hot, nor does it qualify as "body heat".

Plenty of people need to be brought to justice.

BTW- Ziminski's girlfriend got a ticket for curfew violation. Huh? Why her and not the 17 year old kid who killed two people and shot another?

 

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Now I'm frustrated with you.

Watch the Hernandez video. He had two cameras on him.

KR is coming through a parking lot. Rosenbaum comes from the side and gives chase. As this is happening KR is running into a choke point in the parking lot and Ziminsky fires his pistol. KR turns around at this, Rosenbaum lunges and grabs the barrel of KR's rifle and four shots are fired by KR. Rosenbaum had powder residue on his hand consistent with grabbing the rifle barrel.

I'm wanting everyone, including KR, to be held accountable. I was hoping the DA would have had a series of lesser charges that they could have reasonable shown that he broke the law and at the very least be barred from owning a gun.

Black, Ziminsky have trial dates.

I'm not sure what you want: Rosenbaum was a mentally disturbed individual, just released from a mental hospital that day, made prior threats to kill KR, and according to the prosecutions own witness (McGuiness) said "PHuck You!" and lunged for the gun.

Rosenbaum was in the mental hospital for attempted suicide.

Ziminski has a long history of criminality, Domestic Violence, drugs, etc- not someone I would want carrying a gun.

I just posted this in another reply- wow. Just wow.

Joshua Ziminski: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know

Joshua Ziminski has come up many times in the Kyle Rittenhouse trial.

heavy.com

 

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Now I'm frustrated with you.

Watch the Hernandez video. He had two cameras on him.

Sorry, that was before I read the info in the Ziminski link.

 

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Sorry, that was before I read the info in the Ziminski link.

Thanks. The worse thing to do is be in an information deficit. I guess over all that's why I started this thread.

I'm watching the trial, watching what the prosecution and defense teams are presenting. Being walked through it from both view points and you have the likes of CNN, MSNBC, NPR, that honestly are so busy with a social justice narrative that it's ok to just report what ever the 'feels' are.

It's a problem.

Also been watching the Arbery case also. Everything I've seen on that one the defendants are going to be convicted.

We don't have a perfect system but it can work.

 

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BTW- Ziminski's girlfriend got a ticket for curfew violation. Huh? Why her and not the 17 year old kid who killed two people and shot another?

I agree...

I'm left gobsmacked by the entire thing.

 

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The prosecution is trying to prove that Rittenhouse pointed a gun at Ziminski to show provocation from photo and video evidence that the defense says is too blurry to be determinative.

However, the state never called either Ziminski to the witness stand to testify to that, a decision that remains unexplained.

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Oh, I think we know why... Maybe NPR, CNN, MSNBC, can put a suit and tie on this turd and have him do the interview circuit.

 

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Listen to Vaun Mayes and watch what happens in Milwaukee. If he gets his way, it's gonna be really ugly. I saw a video of him saying that if things continue in the current direction, maybe they'll send all of the 17 year old Black kids into other areas with guns.

He seems to be unaware that it has been happening for a long time. They're tearing the shyte out of the surrounding areas.

 

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Listen to Vaun Mayes and watch what happens in Milwaukee. If he gets his way, it's gonna be really ugly. I saw a video of him saying that if things continue in the current direction, maybe they'll send all of the 17 year old Black kids into other areas with guns.

He seems to be unaware that it has been happening for a long time. They're tearing the shyte out of the surrounding areas.

Yeah, where are those dudes in the neighborhoods up in Chicago where gang violence is so high and murder rates are so high.

 

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Listen to Vaun Mayes and watch what happens in Milwaukee. If he gets his way, it's gonna be really ugly. I saw a video of him saying that if things continue in the current direction, maybe they'll send all of the 17 year old Black kids into other areas with guns.

He seems to be unaware that it has been happening for a long time. They're tearing the shyte out of the surrounding areas.

Sad, I remember when Wisc used to be a great state. It doesn't require an AR-15, just look to the tragedy in Waukesha

 

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Thanks. The worse thing to do is be in an information deficit. I guess over all that's why I started this thread.

I'm watching the trial, watching what the prosecution and defense teams are presenting. Being walked through it from both view points and you have the likes of CNN, MSNBC, NPR, that honestly are so busy with a social justice narrative that it's ok to just report what ever the 'feels' are.

It's a problem.

Also been watching the Arbery case also. Everything I've seen on that one the defendants are going to be convicted.

We don't have a perfect system but it can work.

I think one of them will get the murder conviction and the other two will get a lesser charge. Thanks to the brilliant work of the prosecutor. She was spot on.

 

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Sad, I remember when Wisc used to be a great state. It doesn't require an AR-15, just look to the tragedy in Waukesha

The count is up to 6- a child died.

I was watching the preliminary trial and after the prosecutor read his criminal history, which includes not only cases in WI, but also in Nevada and Georgia, the court commissioner was talking about $5 Million cash bail and what happens if he or someone else does post that amount of money. I think he should be denied bail. If anyone or any organization posts bail on his behalf, I want that shown on every TV and electronic billboard in the freaking world! There's no way this shytebag should be released for any reason before the trial- the reason he was arrested before (and a stupidly low bond was imposed) is because he punched the mother of his child and then drove over her in the same SUV he used on Sunday.

He's looking at 5 life without parole terms now and the sixth charge hasn't been read in- those and the other outstanding charges SHOULD make it impossible for him to be free before the trial and even though the court is imposing Level 4 monitoring (GPS, which HE has to pay for), I seriously doubt he would stay in the area.

I would say that he should end it all, but that means someone else will be in the position of finding him and having to deal with the scene.

He was totally quiet the whole time I watched, but he rocked in his chair, so he may actually understand the seriousness of the situation.

 

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He was totally quiet the whole time I watched, but he rocked in his chair, so he may actually understand the seriousness of the situation.

Too bad he didn't understand the seriousness of all his prior situations. This is incredibly sad.

 

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Too bad he didn't understand the seriousness of all his prior situations. This is incredibly sad.

I watched an interview with the previous Waukesha DA, who was reading about the cases from CCAP- the bail from a case about 6 months ago was originally $10K, but it was lowered. The $1000 bail was apparently dropped and he was released because, I assume, his public defender recommended that he be released because he wouldn't be allowed a 'speedy trial'. While that's a Constitutional right, some people just need to be held because they tend to be violent and this shytebag is one of those. I don't understand why anyone would release him when he was in court for a violent incident when he simultaneously had a recent violent incident AND an out of state warrant. All it would have taken is for one person to look at his recent past and say "No" to his release request. They could duke it out in court, later.

In the first court appearance yesterday, the public defender mentioned that he's indigent. If that's true, I would like to know how he posted bail in the amounts of $7500 and $500,in the last five months.

Last count I saw- six dead, 63 injured. For what, so this turd could run free and be a one man wrecking crew?