K kini Full Audioholic Nov 30, 2011 426 0 28 Aug 8, 2012 #41 My choice would be the Monoprice 8" sub. Why it is not on the list is a mystery to me. I can't imagine how you left it off. I'm sooooooooo disappointed in you.
My choice would be the Monoprice 8" sub. Why it is not on the list is a mystery to me. I can't imagine how you left it off. I'm sooooooooo disappointed in you.
Irvrobinson Audioholic Spartan Dec 7, 2004 6,754 0 113 Aug 8, 2012 #42 ridikas said: But here's more food for thought... If using 4 SVS PB12-NDS's (total of $3100), the system will have even more SPL than a single FW18.3 and do it with the same distortion level and more even room coverage SVS PB12-NSD Subwoofer Measurements and Analysis — Reviews and News from Audioholics Click to expand... Perhaps, but which would you rather have, four subs that look just okay spread around your room, along with all of the cables and power cords, or one big sub that looks awesome? I'd rather have one (maybe two if absolutely necessary) big subs. I thought for a bit I'd rather have two little ones, but experience shows me that when it comes to subs the bigger the better. As for other features, like super-quality appearance, amps, connections, equalization, ease of set-up, remote control, completeness of integration, all of that matters. You can't be #1 with just loudness, even if you say so. For most homes, every sub discussed here is loud even at 20Hz, and since bass is omnidirectional with moderate distortion they sound a lot alike too. There's more to a product than just a couple of parameters. The SVS is a great sub at a reasonable price, but it's not for everyone. And this silly thread is becoming tiresome quickly.
ridikas said: But here's more food for thought... If using 4 SVS PB12-NDS's (total of $3100), the system will have even more SPL than a single FW18.3 and do it with the same distortion level and more even room coverage SVS PB12-NSD Subwoofer Measurements and Analysis — Reviews and News from Audioholics Click to expand... Perhaps, but which would you rather have, four subs that look just okay spread around your room, along with all of the cables and power cords, or one big sub that looks awesome? I'd rather have one (maybe two if absolutely necessary) big subs. I thought for a bit I'd rather have two little ones, but experience shows me that when it comes to subs the bigger the better. As for other features, like super-quality appearance, amps, connections, equalization, ease of set-up, remote control, completeness of integration, all of that matters. You can't be #1 with just loudness, even if you say so. For most homes, every sub discussed here is loud even at 20Hz, and since bass is omnidirectional with moderate distortion they sound a lot alike too. There's more to a product than just a couple of parameters. The SVS is a great sub at a reasonable price, but it's not for everyone. And this silly thread is becoming tiresome quickly.
R ridikas Banned Jan 8, 2012 290 0 0 Aug 8, 2012 #43 The SVS PB13-Ultra in piano black gloss is as good of a looking sub as any on the market today at any price. Its amp, connections, EQ, and ease of set up is as good as it gets. Who does it better (not equal)? The only thing lacking is a remote. Definitely not a big deal P.S. I just want to clarify regarding the JL subwoofers... For smaller cabinet, sealed units, they are incredible performers. Some of the best at any price. Last edited: Aug 8, 2012
The SVS PB13-Ultra in piano black gloss is as good of a looking sub as any on the market today at any price. Its amp, connections, EQ, and ease of set up is as good as it gets. Who does it better (not equal)? The only thing lacking is a remote. Definitely not a big deal P.S. I just want to clarify regarding the JL subwoofers... For smaller cabinet, sealed units, they are incredible performers. Some of the best at any price.
F funky waves Junior Audioholic Oct 21, 2010 92 0 18 Halfmoon Bay BC Aug 8, 2012 #44 I think you may be looking at the old 18.3, the new 18.3 information can be found here; 18.3 Btw; You will notice the pricing includes delivery.
I think you may be looking at the old 18.3, the new 18.3 information can be found here; 18.3 Btw; You will notice the pricing includes delivery.
A ACsGreens Full Audioholic Sep 6, 2011 299 0 28 Turn Around Aug 9, 2012 #45 Stupid I was going to post some I felt were left off this list and some omitted...but then I remembered I have a job, kids and not enouigh patience to put all of my opinions on the rediculousness of this.....oh my brain hurts.
Stupid I was going to post some I felt were left off this list and some omitted...but then I remembered I have a job, kids and not enouigh patience to put all of my opinions on the rediculousness of this.....oh my brain hurts.
lsiberian Audioholic Overlord Nov 17, 2008 12,393 0 113 On A Bridge in Fort Worth Aug 9, 2012 #47 funky waves said: I think you may be looking at the old 18.3, the new 18.3 information can be found here; 18.3 Btw; You will notice the pricing includes delivery. Click to expand... That's a very good price for all that work.
funky waves said: I think you may be looking at the old 18.3, the new 18.3 information can be found here; 18.3 Btw; You will notice the pricing includes delivery. Click to expand... That's a very good price for all that work.
lsiberian Audioholic Overlord Nov 17, 2008 12,393 0 113 On A Bridge in Fort Worth Aug 9, 2012 #48 Why doesn't my sub make the list OP? I feel slighted. I built that thing with my own bare hands(with the help of amazing power tools) on my old apartment balcony. No Seaton, No Funky Waves, No JL Audio, No JTR, No Danley, Then you try to take tests like 4 years old and make them your basis. What's with your hate for sealed subs? OP link us your legit build thread please. Until you make your own subs or do your own proper measurements leave top 10 lists to the experts.
Why doesn't my sub make the list OP? I feel slighted. I built that thing with my own bare hands(with the help of amazing power tools) on my old apartment balcony. No Seaton, No Funky Waves, No JL Audio, No JTR, No Danley, Then you try to take tests like 4 years old and make them your basis. What's with your hate for sealed subs? OP link us your legit build thread please. Until you make your own subs or do your own proper measurements leave top 10 lists to the experts.
R ridikas Banned Jan 8, 2012 290 0 0 Aug 9, 2012 #49 Your Tiger is a good music subwoofer for smaller rooms. Be proud of it I don't hate sealed subs, but if I'm making the ultimate list, it has to be full of ultimate subwoofers, right? The ones you've listed are very expensive and 2-3 less expensive HSU's, or 2-3 less expensive SVS's would equal, or better (performance wise) a single expensive sub. And most of the time even do it at a lower price. All excellent subs by the way!
Your Tiger is a good music subwoofer for smaller rooms. Be proud of it I don't hate sealed subs, but if I'm making the ultimate list, it has to be full of ultimate subwoofers, right? The ones you've listed are very expensive and 2-3 less expensive HSU's, or 2-3 less expensive SVS's would equal, or better (performance wise) a single expensive sub. And most of the time even do it at a lower price. All excellent subs by the way!
A ACsGreens Full Audioholic Sep 6, 2011 299 0 28 Turn Around Aug 9, 2012 #50 Why@ For some damn reason I keep coming back and reading this, it is like watching a car wreck. I feel dumber now, and I think I am getting a headache. Furthermore, you have made me want a glass of whiskey at 3:00. SOAB! Reactions: Nemo128, Irvrobinson and j_garcia
Why@ For some damn reason I keep coming back and reading this, it is like watching a car wreck. I feel dumber now, and I think I am getting a headache. Furthermore, you have made me want a glass of whiskey at 3:00. SOAB!
j_garcia Audioholic Jedi Jul 11, 2005 32,531 0 113 Aug 9, 2012 #51 You didn't set a price point Mr.Fail. This thread is the definition of fail. Look it up, am sure Wikipedia will be updating soon with a link to this thread.
You didn't set a price point Mr.Fail. This thread is the definition of fail. Look it up, am sure Wikipedia will be updating soon with a link to this thread.
B BM1 Audioholic Intern Apr 15, 2011 41 0 0 Aug 9, 2012 #52 I'd put the Paradigm Sub 2 and JL Gotham above anything on that list. PB-13 Ultra is nice but not in the same league as either the Sub 2 or Gotham. It's definitely a better value from a price standpoint but not a better sub. This thread doesn't make sense without price categories.
I'd put the Paradigm Sub 2 and JL Gotham above anything on that list. PB-13 Ultra is nice but not in the same league as either the Sub 2 or Gotham. It's definitely a better value from a price standpoint but not a better sub. This thread doesn't make sense without price categories.
R ridikas Banned Jan 8, 2012 290 0 0 Aug 9, 2012 #53 Why would I need a price set? This thread is for the ultimate subwoofers, at any price. I don't think anyone has failed more than you today.
Why would I need a price set? This thread is for the ultimate subwoofers, at any price. I don't think anyone has failed more than you today.
R ridikas Banned Jan 8, 2012 290 0 0 Aug 9, 2012 #54 BM1, is the SUB2 ($9K) better than 4 SVS PB13-Ultra's ($8K)? I don't think so... This thread is open to any price, so long as the performance justifies it. Now if no combination of less expensive subwoofers could equal the performance of the SUB2 and stay under $9K, then absolutely, the SUB2 would be on the list! But unfortunately that's not the case
BM1, is the SUB2 ($9K) better than 4 SVS PB13-Ultra's ($8K)? I don't think so... This thread is open to any price, so long as the performance justifies it. Now if no combination of less expensive subwoofers could equal the performance of the SUB2 and stay under $9K, then absolutely, the SUB2 would be on the list! But unfortunately that's not the case
B BM1 Audioholic Intern Apr 15, 2011 41 0 0 Aug 9, 2012 #55 Comparing 4 of one sub against 1 of another is not an apples to apples comparison; that would be comparing a subwoofer array to a single sub. If that's the case and money is no object like you said, you would need to compare 4 Sub 2s to 4 PB-13 Ultras. Again, the reason you need to set price categories is so we don't have people in here saying, "well you can stack 4 such and such subs and be louder than this sub for less money" like you just did.
Comparing 4 of one sub against 1 of another is not an apples to apples comparison; that would be comparing a subwoofer array to a single sub. If that's the case and money is no object like you said, you would need to compare 4 Sub 2s to 4 PB-13 Ultras. Again, the reason you need to set price categories is so we don't have people in here saying, "well you can stack 4 such and such subs and be louder than this sub for less money" like you just did.
R ridikas Banned Jan 8, 2012 290 0 0 Aug 9, 2012 #56 The beauty of this list is that the price sets itself naturally
j_garcia Audioholic Jedi Jul 11, 2005 32,531 0 113 Aug 9, 2012 #57 ridikas said: I don't think. Click to expand... Fixed that for ya. Reactions: Nemo128 and Irvrobinson
S shadyJ Speaker of the House Staff member Oct 16, 2006 12,053 0 113 Aug 9, 2012 #58 good lord. A top 10 subwoofers thread might be cool, but this thread is definitely not that. What a letdown.
good lord. A top 10 subwoofers thread might be cool, but this thread is definitely not that. What a letdown.
fuzz092888 Audioholic Warlord Feb 13, 2012 9,103 0 113 42.3464° N, 71.0975° W Aug 9, 2012 #59 I think the funniest part is that it's all complaints and yet here everyone is humoring this guy with 50+ posts in this meaningless thread and almost 40 in the AVR thread. Let it die guys, just let it die Reactions: Irvrobinson and j_garcia
I think the funniest part is that it's all complaints and yet here everyone is humoring this guy with 50+ posts in this meaningless thread and almost 40 in the AVR thread. Let it die guys, just let it die
Irvrobinson Audioholic Spartan Dec 7, 2004 6,754 0 113 Aug 9, 2012 #60 fuzz092888 said: I think the funniest part is that it's all complaints and yet here everyone is humoring this guy with 50+ posts in this meaningless thread and almost 40 in the AVR thread. Let it die guys, just let it die Click to expand... You're so right, but mea culpa! I was trying to talk some sense into him. Wasted effort. Reactions: fuzz092888
fuzz092888 said: I think the funniest part is that it's all complaints and yet here everyone is humoring this guy with 50+ posts in this meaningless thread and almost 40 in the AVR thread. Let it die guys, just let it die Click to expand... You're so right, but mea culpa! I was trying to talk some sense into him. Wasted effort.
