The guys with 200w \/ch amps never recommend buying amps. LOL :)\n\nI think they did mention the Denon and Marantz run hot so if you add amps the AVR can run cooler in eco mode. That’s the benefit maybe. \n\nI also saw a few people had regrets spending on 6000 or 8000 series as features change so they got to the point of just getting a 200w per channel amp and purchasing the 3000 or 4000 series every few years.\n\nYou bring up a good point! I'm gonna go with, since we do have the amps we have first hand experience and know it doesn't improve your sound.\n\nI may be loosening up my stance on amps tho. I got into a conversation with Dave at Ascend yesterday and he thinks I could be pushing my monolith into clipping territory at my distance when I peg the volume, even with 90 dB sensitivity.