S shadyJ Speaker of the House Staff member Oct 16, 2006 12,053 0 113 Oct 4, 2021 #1 Monoprice knocked us out of our socks in our review of their new Monolith 13” THX sub, and we were very intrigued by its bigger brother, the 16” THX Ultra. Unfortunately, the 16” was just too large and heavy for us to do a full review (hey, you try lugging a 170 lbs subwoofer up and down a steep flight of stairs multiple times!) Happily, Monoprice was able to coordinate a sample for testing, so we can get a close look at its performance even if we aren’t able to do any listening in our home. The results of our testing are the subject of this performance analysis. Read our full performance report of the Monoprice Monolith 16" THX Ultra... READ: Monoprice Monolith 16" THX Ultra Subwoofer Performance Analysis Reactions: Bizarro_Stormy, Eppie, panteragstk and 6 others
Monoprice knocked us out of our socks in our review of their new Monolith 13” THX sub, and we were very intrigued by its bigger brother, the 16” THX Ultra. Unfortunately, the 16” was just too large and heavy for us to do a full review (hey, you try lugging a 170 lbs subwoofer up and down a steep flight of stairs multiple times!) Happily, Monoprice was able to coordinate a sample for testing, so we can get a close look at its performance even if we aren’t able to do any listening in our home. The results of our testing are the subject of this performance analysis. Read our full performance report of the Monoprice Monolith 16" THX Ultra... READ: Monoprice Monolith 16" THX Ultra Subwoofer Performance Analysis
U Uncle_Big_Green Audioholic Intern Feb 22, 2012 42 0 8 Oct 4, 2021 #2 Dear Monoprice, Please make subs with a satin black and/or gloss black finish. Thanks, UBG Last edited: Oct 4, 2021 Reactions: AudioLover73 and Danzilla31
haraldo Audioholic Warlord Feb 25, 2008 7,914 0 113 63 Endor Oct 4, 2021 #3 FINALLY Reactions: Danzilla31
D Danzilla31 Audioholic Spartan May 17, 2018 7,179 0 113 52 Oct 4, 2021 #4 Ohhhhhhhh I've been waiting for this one. Look at the performance Output? Check Extension both infrasonic and midbass? Check Extremely low distortion and great measurements? Check Does it outperform the SVS PB16 ultra for a lot less money? Hell yeah Check Check Check It seriously outperforms the SVS I hear they are coming out with a piano black gloss next year. By that time plenty of user reviews If everything sounds good from users then 2 of them are going in my room Reactions: panteragstk and ryanosaur
Ohhhhhhhh I've been waiting for this one. Look at the performance Output? Check Extension both infrasonic and midbass? Check Extremely low distortion and great measurements? Check Does it outperform the SVS PB16 ultra for a lot less money? Hell yeah Check Check Check It seriously outperforms the SVS I hear they are coming out with a piano black gloss next year. By that time plenty of user reviews If everything sounds good from users then 2 of them are going in my room
ryanosaur Audioholic Overlord Sep 14, 2018 11,686 0 113 Oct 4, 2021 #5 Krikey, mate! Now THAT, is a Subwoofer. If it wasn't potentially so confusing, it should be referred to hereafter as "The Übersub." (Suck it, Nietzsche.) Shady, did you do these measurements yourself up in Chi-Town? Just not getting it into your pad for a listen? Reactions: haraldo and Danzilla31
Krikey, mate! Now THAT, is a Subwoofer. If it wasn't potentially so confusing, it should be referred to hereafter as "The Übersub." (Suck it, Nietzsche.) Shady, did you do these measurements yourself up in Chi-Town? Just not getting it into your pad for a listen?
ryanosaur Audioholic Overlord Sep 14, 2018 11,686 0 113 Oct 4, 2021 #6 Danzilla31 said: Ohhhhhhhh I've been waiting for this one. Look at the performance Output? Check Extension both infrasonic and midbass? Check Extremely low distortion and great measurements? Check Does it outperform the SVS PB16 ultra for a lot less money? Hell yeah Check Check Check It seriously outperforms the SVS I hear they are coming out with a piano black gloss next year. By that time plenty of user reviews If everything sounds good from users then 2 of them are going in my room Click to expand... What, nothing about the ports, 'Zilla? 8! Count 'em... That's one for every night of the week, and twice on Sunday! (Since I know you won't give one a week off!) <3
Danzilla31 said: Ohhhhhhhh I've been waiting for this one. Look at the performance Output? Check Extension both infrasonic and midbass? Check Extremely low distortion and great measurements? Check Does it outperform the SVS PB16 ultra for a lot less money? Hell yeah Check Check Check It seriously outperforms the SVS I hear they are coming out with a piano black gloss next year. By that time plenty of user reviews If everything sounds good from users then 2 of them are going in my room Click to expand... What, nothing about the ports, 'Zilla? 8! Count 'em... That's one for every night of the week, and twice on Sunday! (Since I know you won't give one a week off!) <3
S shadyJ Speaker of the House Staff member Oct 16, 2006 12,053 0 113 Oct 4, 2021 #7 ryanosaur said: Krikey, mate! Now THAT, is a Subwoofer. If it wasn't potentially so confusing, it should be referred to hereafter as "The Übersub." (Suck it, Nietzsche.) Shady, did you do these measurements yourself up in Chi-Town? Just not getting it into your pad for a listen? Click to expand... I did the measurements, but not anywhere near an urban area. I did have help. In its boxed state, I doubt that I could even fit it through my door. I can't personally use it to its potential, so I didn't want to bother with the pain of lifting it into my theater room which involves a flight of stairs. Reactions: haraldo, panteragstk, Danzilla31 and 1 other person
ryanosaur said: Krikey, mate! Now THAT, is a Subwoofer. If it wasn't potentially so confusing, it should be referred to hereafter as "The Übersub." (Suck it, Nietzsche.) Shady, did you do these measurements yourself up in Chi-Town? Just not getting it into your pad for a listen? Click to expand... I did the measurements, but not anywhere near an urban area. I did have help. In its boxed state, I doubt that I could even fit it through my door. I can't personally use it to its potential, so I didn't want to bother with the pain of lifting it into my theater room which involves a flight of stairs.
ryanosaur Audioholic Overlord Sep 14, 2018 11,686 0 113 Oct 4, 2021 #8 shadyJ said: I did the measurements, but not anywhere near an urban area. I did have help. In its boxed state, I doubt that I could even fit it through my door. I can't personally use it to its potential, so I didn't want to bother with the pain of lifting it into my theater room which involves a flight of stairs. Click to expand... Totally dig it. And I know I speak for everybody when I say: Thank You for measuring this beast! Reactions: Eppie, haraldo, panteragstk and 4 others
shadyJ said: I did the measurements, but not anywhere near an urban area. I did have help. In its boxed state, I doubt that I could even fit it through my door. I can't personally use it to its potential, so I didn't want to bother with the pain of lifting it into my theater room which involves a flight of stairs. Click to expand... Totally dig it. And I know I speak for everybody when I say: Thank You for measuring this beast!
D Danzilla31 Audioholic Spartan May 17, 2018 7,179 0 113 52 Oct 4, 2021 #9 ryanosaur said: What, nothing about the ports, 'Zilla? 8! Count 'em... That's one for every night of the week, and twice on Sunday! (Since I know you won't give one a week off!) <3 Click to expand... I'll have you know Ryan the ports had NOTHING to do with how I feel about this subwoofer. AT ALL Reactions: panteragstk
ryanosaur said: What, nothing about the ports, 'Zilla? 8! Count 'em... That's one for every night of the week, and twice on Sunday! (Since I know you won't give one a week off!) <3 Click to expand... I'll have you know Ryan the ports had NOTHING to do with how I feel about this subwoofer. AT ALL
D Danzilla31 Audioholic Spartan May 17, 2018 7,179 0 113 52 Oct 4, 2021 #10 shadyJ said: I did the measurements, but not anywhere near an urban area. I did have help. In its boxed state, I doubt that I could even fit it through my door. I can't personally use it to its potential, so I didn't want to bother with the pain of lifting it into my theater room which involves a flight of stairs. Click to expand... If your ever in San Antonio someday post pandemic PM me. For all the work you do your gonna get treated bro. For reals. Reactions: haraldo, panteragstk and shadyJ
shadyJ said: I did the measurements, but not anywhere near an urban area. I did have help. In its boxed state, I doubt that I could even fit it through my door. I can't personally use it to its potential, so I didn't want to bother with the pain of lifting it into my theater room which involves a flight of stairs. Click to expand... If your ever in San Antonio someday post pandemic PM me. For all the work you do your gonna get treated bro. For reals.
ryanosaur Audioholic Overlord Sep 14, 2018 11,686 0 113 Oct 4, 2021 #11 Danzilla31 said: If your ever in San Antonio someday post pandemic PM me. For all the work you do your gonna get treated bro. For reals. Click to expand... Hide your ports, Shady! Reactions: NINaudio, snakeeyes, Danzilla31 and 1 other person
Danzilla31 said: If your ever in San Antonio someday post pandemic PM me. For all the work you do your gonna get treated bro. For reals. Click to expand... Hide your ports, Shady!
D Danzilla31 Audioholic Spartan May 17, 2018 7,179 0 113 52 Oct 4, 2021 #12 ryanosaur said: Hide your ports, Shady! Click to expand... I would never! I can't believe you Ryan what kind of shallow audioholic do you take me for? Reactions: shadyJ and ryanosaur
ryanosaur said: Hide your ports, Shady! Click to expand... I would never! I can't believe you Ryan what kind of shallow audioholic do you take me for?
T tinman143 Audiophyte Jan 18, 2019 5 0 1 52 Oct 4, 2021 #13 “The Monolith 16” can produce more than 50% more output than the Monolith 13” while only having a 25% cost increase.” This is nuts. Reactions: panteragstk and Danzilla31
“The Monolith 16” can produce more than 50% more output than the Monolith 13” while only having a 25% cost increase.” This is nuts.
D Danzilla31 Audioholic Spartan May 17, 2018 7,179 0 113 52 Oct 4, 2021 #14 tinman143 said: “The Monolith 16” can produce more than 50% more output than the Monolith 13” while only having a 25% cost increase.” This is nuts. Click to expand... I know I was thinking the same thing
tinman143 said: “The Monolith 16” can produce more than 50% more output than the Monolith 13” while only having a 25% cost increase.” This is nuts. Click to expand... I know I was thinking the same thing
lovinthehd Audioholic Jedi Sep 11, 2012 44,861 0 113 Oakridge, OR Oct 4, 2021 #15 tinman143 said: “The Monolith 16” can produce more than 50% more output than the Monolith 13” while only having a 25% cost increase.” This is nuts. Click to expand... Percentages just aren't the way to deal with logarithmic specs....
tinman143 said: “The Monolith 16” can produce more than 50% more output than the Monolith 13” while only having a 25% cost increase.” This is nuts. Click to expand... Percentages just aren't the way to deal with logarithmic specs....
K Kleinst Audioholic Chief Mar 9, 2020 787 0 16 53 Oct 4, 2021 #16 Legit question. Is there a point where, depending on what level or gain we leverage that some won't realize the upside from say the 13 vs the 16, especially if you already have multiple quality subs? It's probably the wrong audience to ask this question
Legit question. Is there a point where, depending on what level or gain we leverage that some won't realize the upside from say the 13 vs the 16, especially if you already have multiple quality subs? It's probably the wrong audience to ask this question
lovinthehd Audioholic Jedi Sep 11, 2012 44,861 0 113 Oakridge, OR Oct 4, 2021 #17 Kleinst said: Legit question. Is there a point where, depending on what level or gain we leverage that some won't realize the upside from say the 13 vs the 16, especially if you already have multiple quality subs? It's probably the wrong audience to ask this question Click to expand... I'd think would depend how many you have and in what size room and to what levels you're driving them....but for most it's probably moot. Reactions: panteragstk
Kleinst said: Legit question. Is there a point where, depending on what level or gain we leverage that some won't realize the upside from say the 13 vs the 16, especially if you already have multiple quality subs? It's probably the wrong audience to ask this question Click to expand... I'd think would depend how many you have and in what size room and to what levels you're driving them....but for most it's probably moot.
D Danzilla31 Audioholic Spartan May 17, 2018 7,179 0 113 52 Oct 4, 2021 #18 Kleinst said: Legit question. Is there a point where, depending on what level or gain we leverage that some won't realize the upside from say the 13 vs the 16, especially if you already have multiple quality subs? It's probably the wrong audience to ask this question Click to expand... Well this is kindof the point @lovinthehd is making above. Higher output and numbers don't always tell the whole story in certain room sizes or use situations you may not need that extra output at all. You definetly have to take all factors into consideration before you cough up the extra dough Reactions: Kleinst
Kleinst said: Legit question. Is there a point where, depending on what level or gain we leverage that some won't realize the upside from say the 13 vs the 16, especially if you already have multiple quality subs? It's probably the wrong audience to ask this question Click to expand... Well this is kindof the point @lovinthehd is making above. Higher output and numbers don't always tell the whole story in certain room sizes or use situations you may not need that extra output at all. You definetly have to take all factors into consideration before you cough up the extra dough
T tinman143 Audiophyte Jan 18, 2019 5 0 1 52 Oct 4, 2021 #19 lovinthehd said: Percentages just aren't the way to deal with logarithmic specs.... Click to expand... So I should infer that loudness will be less than half (n00b here)?
lovinthehd said: Percentages just aren't the way to deal with logarithmic specs.... Click to expand... So I should infer that loudness will be less than half (n00b here)?
lovinthehd Audioholic Jedi Sep 11, 2012 44,861 0 113 Oakridge, OR Oct 4, 2021 #20 tinman143 said: So I should infer that loudness will be less than half (n00b here)? Click to expand... Depends on what you mean. 3dB in spl requires a doubling of power....and distance comes into play as well. Percentages just aren't the right mathematical ways of expressing differences ps Also consider that generally that perceiving a loudness difference of double is in the range of 6-10 dB spl difference depending whose definition you're using. Reactions: tinman143
tinman143 said: So I should infer that loudness will be less than half (n00b here)? Click to expand... Depends on what you mean. 3dB in spl requires a doubling of power....and distance comes into play as well. Percentages just aren't the right mathematical ways of expressing differences ps Also consider that generally that perceiving a loudness difference of double is in the range of 6-10 dB spl difference depending whose definition you're using.