gene Audioholics Master Chief Administrator Jul 1, 2002 10,225 0 120 52 Florida www.audioholics.com Sep 15, 2017 #1 Marantz® announced the expansion of its latest home cinema line-up with two high-end network AV receivers, SR7012 and SR8012, along with the AV7704 multichannel AV preamplifier/processor. These are among the first AVRs on the market compatible with Amazon Alexa’s Smart Home Skill for Entertainment Devices. Of the three products displayed by Marantz at the 2017 CEDIA Expo, the SR8012 AV receiver really stood out to us due to its apparent roots back to the super receiver days of not too long ago. See what makes these products so special to live up to the reputation and legacy of the Marantz name. Read: Marantz Unveils SR7012, SR8012 AV Receivers and AV7704 Processor with Alexa Skill
Marantz® announced the expansion of its latest home cinema line-up with two high-end network AV receivers, SR7012 and SR8012, along with the AV7704 multichannel AV preamplifier/processor. These are among the first AVRs on the market compatible with Amazon Alexa’s Smart Home Skill for Entertainment Devices. Of the three products displayed by Marantz at the 2017 CEDIA Expo, the SR8012 AV receiver really stood out to us due to its apparent roots back to the super receiver days of not too long ago. See what makes these products so special to live up to the reputation and legacy of the Marantz name. Read: Marantz Unveils SR7012, SR8012 AV Receivers and AV7704 Processor with Alexa Skill
DigitalDawn Senior Audioholic Feb 24, 2016 729 0 43 Sep 16, 2017 #2 Nice! Love the new SR8012. Great value too.
Bob Leonard Junior Audioholic Aug 2, 2015 65 0 8 75 Sep 16, 2017 #3 I wonder what Denon’s version of the Marantz’s SR8012 will look like.
surveyor Audioholic Chief Nov 7, 2003 944 0 28 Sep 26, 2017 #4 What size block capacitors are in the Marantz SR8012?
TLS Guy Audioholic Jedi Oct 30, 2007 27,290 0 113 79 Eagan MN Sep 26, 2017 #5 Interesting that the pre/pro costs less than the receivers, which it should. I'm might be interested in that pre pro down the road. I won't be putting in any ceiling speakers though. I have no interest on Alexa. I'm just a fan of good basic engineering. I remain to be convinced ATMOS is a benefit in the home. I get a really good 360 sound stage with 7.1, and the studios pretty much all produce 5.1, which is a pity, as good 7.1 easily bests good 5.1.
Interesting that the pre/pro costs less than the receivers, which it should. I'm might be interested in that pre pro down the road. I won't be putting in any ceiling speakers though. I have no interest on Alexa. I'm just a fan of good basic engineering. I remain to be convinced ATMOS is a benefit in the home. I get a really good 360 sound stage with 7.1, and the studios pretty much all produce 5.1, which is a pity, as good 7.1 easily bests good 5.1.
AcuDefTechGuy Audioholic Jedi Jul 10, 2007 34,057 0 113 Sep 26, 2017 #6 Bob Leonard said: I wonder what Denon’s version of the Marantz’s SR8012 will look like. Click to expand... I'm guessing there will not be one, at least not 2017-2018. The last big Denon was the X7200, which has the same $3,000 MSRP as the new SR8012. So I'm thinking Denon/Marantz may just have 1 "flagship" model in the SR8012 and Denon will just have the X6400. I notice the power for the SR8012 is 140WPC x 11Ch, not 150WPC x 9Ch like the Denon X7200.
Bob Leonard said: I wonder what Denon’s version of the Marantz’s SR8012 will look like. Click to expand... I'm guessing there will not be one, at least not 2017-2018. The last big Denon was the X7200, which has the same $3,000 MSRP as the new SR8012. So I'm thinking Denon/Marantz may just have 1 "flagship" model in the SR8012 and Denon will just have the X6400. I notice the power for the SR8012 is 140WPC x 11Ch, not 150WPC x 9Ch like the Denon X7200.
AcuDefTechGuy Audioholic Jedi Jul 10, 2007 34,057 0 113 Sep 26, 2017 #7 TLS Guy said: Interesting that the pre/pro costs less than the receivers, which it should. Click to expand... That's for the AV7704 pre-pro. The AV7703 was the same $2,200 price. If they come out with the AV8803 or 8804, it will probably be $4,000 just like the AV8802.
TLS Guy said: Interesting that the pre/pro costs less than the receivers, which it should. Click to expand... That's for the AV7704 pre-pro. The AV7703 was the same $2,200 price. If they come out with the AV8803 or 8804, it will probably be $4,000 just like the AV8802.
panteragstk Audioholic Warlord Aug 14, 2012 8,258 0 113 New Braunfels, TX Sep 26, 2017 #8 AcuDefTechGuy said: I'm guessing there will not be one, at least not 2017-2018. The last big Denon was the X7200, which has the same $3,000 MSRP as the new SR8012. So I'm thinking Denon/Marantz may just have 1 "flagship" model in the SR8012 and Denon will just have the X6400. I notice the power for the SR8012 is 140WPC x 11Ch, not 150WPC x 9Ch like the Denon X7200. Click to expand... I'd love to see one of these get measured ACD (not useful, I know, but interesting) to see what actual output they are capable of. My 4300x is 9ch and with how light it is I don't believe it's capable of the output it states.
AcuDefTechGuy said: I'm guessing there will not be one, at least not 2017-2018. The last big Denon was the X7200, which has the same $3,000 MSRP as the new SR8012. So I'm thinking Denon/Marantz may just have 1 "flagship" model in the SR8012 and Denon will just have the X6400. I notice the power for the SR8012 is 140WPC x 11Ch, not 150WPC x 9Ch like the Denon X7200. Click to expand... I'd love to see one of these get measured ACD (not useful, I know, but interesting) to see what actual output they are capable of. My 4300x is 9ch and with how light it is I don't believe it's capable of the output it states.
AcuDefTechGuy Audioholic Jedi Jul 10, 2007 34,057 0 113 Sep 26, 2017 #9 panteragstk said: I'd love to see one of these get measured ACD (not useful, I know, but interesting) to see what actual output they are capable of. My 4300x is 9ch and with how light it is I don't believe it's capable of the output it states. Click to expand... Yeah the X4000 series output about 92W x 7Ch. I bet 9Ch would be about 70s WPC. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N900A using Tapatalk
panteragstk said: I'd love to see one of these get measured ACD (not useful, I know, but interesting) to see what actual output they are capable of. My 4300x is 9ch and with how light it is I don't believe it's capable of the output it states. Click to expand... Yeah the X4000 series output about 92W x 7Ch. I bet 9Ch would be about 70s WPC. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N900A using Tapatalk
P PENG Audioholic Slumlord Oct 23, 2004 19,797 0 113 Ontario Sep 26, 2017 #10 TLS Guy said: Interesting that the pre/pro costs less than the receivers, which it should. Click to expand... That's because you are comparing it to the AV7704 prepro. The upcoming AV8803 will for sure cost more than the SR8012 AVR. You have the AV8003 so I doubt you would want to downgrade (everything aside from processing and the latest features) to the AV7704.
TLS Guy said: Interesting that the pre/pro costs less than the receivers, which it should. Click to expand... That's because you are comparing it to the AV7704 prepro. The upcoming AV8803 will for sure cost more than the SR8012 AVR. You have the AV8003 so I doubt you would want to downgrade (everything aside from processing and the latest features) to the AV7704.
P PENG Audioholic Slumlord Oct 23, 2004 19,797 0 113 Ontario Sep 26, 2017 #11 AcuDefTechGuy said: I'm guessing there will not be one, at least not 2017-2018. The last big Denon was the X7200, which has the same $3,000 MSRP as the new SR8012. So I'm thinking Denon/Marantz may just have 1 "flagship" model in the SR8012 and Denon will just have the X6400. I notice the power for the SR8012 is 140WPC x 11Ch, not 150WPC x 9Ch like the Denon X7200. Click to expand... I read from somewhere about the X7200WA replacement, rumor has it that it won't have a radio tuner.
AcuDefTechGuy said: I'm guessing there will not be one, at least not 2017-2018. The last big Denon was the X7200, which has the same $3,000 MSRP as the new SR8012. So I'm thinking Denon/Marantz may just have 1 "flagship" model in the SR8012 and Denon will just have the X6400. I notice the power for the SR8012 is 140WPC x 11Ch, not 150WPC x 9Ch like the Denon X7200. Click to expand... I read from somewhere about the X7200WA replacement, rumor has it that it won't have a radio tuner.
AcuDefTechGuy Audioholic Jedi Jul 10, 2007 34,057 0 113 Sep 26, 2017 #12 PENG said: I read from somewhere about the X7200WA replacement, rumor has it that it won't have a radio tuner. Click to expand... What's a radio? I think last time I used the radio was when I was trying to listen to the local news in my car about the tornado warnings. Last time I used the radio at home was 15 or 16 years ago. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N900A using Tapatalk Reactions: cpp
PENG said: I read from somewhere about the X7200WA replacement, rumor has it that it won't have a radio tuner. Click to expand... What's a radio? I think last time I used the radio was when I was trying to listen to the local news in my car about the tornado warnings. Last time I used the radio at home was 15 or 16 years ago. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N900A using Tapatalk
P PENG Audioholic Slumlord Oct 23, 2004 19,797 0 113 Ontario Sep 26, 2017 #13 AcuDefTechGuy said: What's a radio? I think last time I used the radio was when I was trying to listen to the local news in my car about the tornado warnings. Last time I used the radio at home was 15 or 16 years ago. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N900A using Tapatalk Click to expand... I don't use the tuner at all, used to have a separate Pioneer tuner but don't even know where it is now.
AcuDefTechGuy said: What's a radio? I think last time I used the radio was when I was trying to listen to the local news in my car about the tornado warnings. Last time I used the radio at home was 15 or 16 years ago. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N900A using Tapatalk Click to expand... I don't use the tuner at all, used to have a separate Pioneer tuner but don't even know where it is now.
agarwalro Audioholic Ninja Jan 31, 2005 4,320 0 113 Pittsburgh, PA Sep 26, 2017 #14 With greater IoT integration comes a greater need for privacy and security. How goes D&M position themselves on this? Is there any way to hold them accountable for this? I recall something about LG, Visio and Samsung TVs having egregious privacy violations. Something on the lines of unencrypted text transmitted to be collected on servers. I've disabled the option to send anonimized usage data. I don't want to have an advanced computer degree to reverse engineer personal data bring surreptitiously sent form my AV gear.
With greater IoT integration comes a greater need for privacy and security. How goes D&M position themselves on this? Is there any way to hold them accountable for this? I recall something about LG, Visio and Samsung TVs having egregious privacy violations. Something on the lines of unencrypted text transmitted to be collected on servers. I've disabled the option to send anonimized usage data. I don't want to have an advanced computer degree to reverse engineer personal data bring surreptitiously sent form my AV gear.
gene Audioholics Master Chief Administrator Jul 1, 2002 10,225 0 120 52 Florida www.audioholics.com Sep 26, 2017 #15 panteragstk said: I'd love to see one of these get measured ACD (not useful, I know, but interesting) to see what actual output they are capable of. My 4300x is 9ch and with how light it is I don't believe it's capable of the output it states. Click to expand... None of the mass market receivers tofay have the robust power supplies of 10-12 years ago. Look at my AVR-X3300 review to get an idea of what you will get with ACD.
panteragstk said: I'd love to see one of these get measured ACD (not useful, I know, but interesting) to see what actual output they are capable of. My 4300x is 9ch and with how light it is I don't believe it's capable of the output it states. Click to expand... None of the mass market receivers tofay have the robust power supplies of 10-12 years ago. Look at my AVR-X3300 review to get an idea of what you will get with ACD.
gene Audioholics Master Chief Administrator Jul 1, 2002 10,225 0 120 52 Florida www.audioholics.com Sep 26, 2017 #16 TLS Guy said: Interesting that the pre/pro costs less than the receivers, which it should. I'm might be interested in that pre pro down the road. I won't be putting in any ceiling speakers though. I have no interest on Alexa. I'm just a fan of good basic engineering. I remain to be convinced ATMOS is a benefit in the home. I get a really good 360 sound stage with 7.1, and the studios pretty much all produce 5.1, which is a pity, as good 7.1 easily bests good 5.1. Click to expand... You should buy my Denon AVP-A1HDCI if you,have no interest in Atmos. They don't make processors like this anymore. Fully differential circuits from input to put, class A drivers, quad Burr Brown DACS. It produced the best measurements I've ever seen in a preamp. I hope i can find an audiophile that will appreciate this gem.
TLS Guy said: Interesting that the pre/pro costs less than the receivers, which it should. I'm might be interested in that pre pro down the road. I won't be putting in any ceiling speakers though. I have no interest on Alexa. I'm just a fan of good basic engineering. I remain to be convinced ATMOS is a benefit in the home. I get a really good 360 sound stage with 7.1, and the studios pretty much all produce 5.1, which is a pity, as good 7.1 easily bests good 5.1. Click to expand... You should buy my Denon AVP-A1HDCI if you,have no interest in Atmos. They don't make processors like this anymore. Fully differential circuits from input to put, class A drivers, quad Burr Brown DACS. It produced the best measurements I've ever seen in a preamp. I hope i can find an audiophile that will appreciate this gem.
P PENG Audioholic Slumlord Oct 23, 2004 19,797 0 113 Ontario Sep 26, 2017 #17 Found the rumor source about the Denon flagship AVR-X7400H (?). A few months ago jdsmoothie figured it would be Dec this year. Now they are talking Spring 2018. https://www.avforums.com/news/denon-launch-new-x6400-x4400-and-x3400-av-receivers.13647
Found the rumor source about the Denon flagship AVR-X7400H (?). A few months ago jdsmoothie figured it would be Dec this year. Now they are talking Spring 2018. https://www.avforums.com/news/denon-launch-new-x6400-x4400-and-x3400-av-receivers.13647
P PENG Audioholic Slumlord Oct 23, 2004 19,797 0 113 Ontario Sep 26, 2017 #18 gene said: You should buy my Demon AVP-A1HDCI if you,have no interest in Atmos. They don't make processors like this anymore. Fully differential circuits from input to put, class A drivers, quad Burr Brown DACS. It produced the best measurements I've ever seen in a preamp. I hope i can find an audiophile that will appreciate this gem. Click to expand... I will appreciate such gem but can't afford one. Reactions: NINaudio
gene said: You should buy my Demon AVP-A1HDCI if you,have no interest in Atmos. They don't make processors like this anymore. Fully differential circuits from input to put, class A drivers, quad Burr Brown DACS. It produced the best measurements I've ever seen in a preamp. I hope i can find an audiophile that will appreciate this gem. Click to expand... I will appreciate such gem but can't afford one.
E <eargiant Senior Audioholic May 3, 2016 525 0 43 Sep 26, 2017 #19 gene said: None of the mass market receivers tofay have the robust power supplies of 10-12 years ago. Look at my AVR-X3300 review to get an idea of what you will get with ACD. Click to expand... That's not the only thing that's not as robust . There's no free lunch.
gene said: None of the mass market receivers tofay have the robust power supplies of 10-12 years ago. Look at my AVR-X3300 review to get an idea of what you will get with ACD. Click to expand... That's not the only thing that's not as robust . There's no free lunch.
AcuDefTechGuy Audioholic Jedi Jul 10, 2007 34,057 0 113 Sep 26, 2017 #20 PENG said: Found the rumor source about the Denon flagship AVR-X7400H (?). A few months ago jdsmoothie figured it would be Dec this year. Now they are talking Spring 2018. https://www.avforums.com/news/denon-launch-new-x6400-x4400-and-x3400-av-receivers.13647 Click to expand... I think somebody was just dreaming. PENG said: I will appreciate such gem but can't afford one. Click to expand... Come on. Only about $3K. The Marantz AV8802 is $4K. I wish I hadn't spent $5000 on my AVR-5308CI few years ago. Then I could have bought another AVP-A1HDCI. Hindsight.
PENG said: Found the rumor source about the Denon flagship AVR-X7400H (?). A few months ago jdsmoothie figured it would be Dec this year. Now they are talking Spring 2018. https://www.avforums.com/news/denon-launch-new-x6400-x4400-and-x3400-av-receivers.13647 Click to expand... I think somebody was just dreaming. PENG said: I will appreciate such gem but can't afford one. Click to expand... Come on. Only about $3K. The Marantz AV8802 is $4K. I wish I hadn't spent $5000 on my AVR-5308CI few years ago. Then I could have bought another AVP-A1HDCI. Hindsight.
