Hot off the presses, Sound United is acquiring Onkyo/Pioneer

Phase 2

Phase 2

Audioholic Chief
What about the other Canadians, NAD? Or others like Arcam? Cambridge Audio? Emotiva? Outlaw? ATI?



More the other way around, Onkyo acquired Pioneer....
yeah, isn't ATi being sold to Emotiva. :p
 
ryanosaur

ryanosaur

Audioholic Overlord
What about the other Canadians, NAD? Or others like Arcam? Cambridge Audio? Emotiva? Outlaw? ATI?
Not ruling anybody out: Anthem just seems to check a few more boxes than anybody else right now. (For my wants and needs.)
Would love to see Emotiva evolve into something a little more. Would love to see Monolith establish itself outside of the Monoprice moniker, too. Love my Outlaw products right now, but not interested in their processors. Intrigued by ATI, but again... they aren't hitting for me right now. :) Anthem in the closest to what I want at a price I might be willing to spend.
 
AcuDefTechGuy

AcuDefTechGuy

Audioholic Jedi
@Phase 2 - Speaking of Sound United, Polk LSiM is on sale for 50%. Next thing you know it'll be 80% off. Going down man.
 
AcuDefTechGuy

AcuDefTechGuy

Audioholic Jedi
Not ruling anybody out: Anthem just seems to check a few more boxes than anybody else right now. (For my wants and needs.)
Would love to see Emotiva evolve into something a little more. Would love to see Monolith establish itself outside of the Monoprice moniker, too. Love my Outlaw products right now, but not interested in their processors. Intrigued by ATI, but again... they aren't hitting for me right now. :) Anthem in the closest to what I want at a price I might be willing to spend.
How much is the Anthem pre-pro?
 
Phase 2

Phase 2

Audioholic Chief
Not ruling anybody out: Anthem just seems to check a few more boxes than anybody else right now. (For my wants and needs.)
Would love to see Emotiva evolve into something a little more. Would love to see Monolith establish itself outside of the Monoprice moniker, too. Love my Outlaw products right now, but not interested in their processors. Intrigued by ATI, but again... they aren't hitting for me right now. :) Anthem in the closest to what I want at a price I might be willing to spend.
Monoprice amps just look better than EMO amps.:D
 
lovinthehd

lovinthehd

Audioholic Jedi
Not ruling anybody out: Anthem just seems to check a few more boxes than anybody else right now. (For my wants and needs.)
Would love to see Emotiva evolve into something a little more. Would love to see Monolith establish itself outside of the Monoprice moniker, too. Love my Outlaw products right now, but not interested in their processors. Intrigued by ATI, but again... they aren't hitting for me right now. :) Anthem in the closest to what I want at a price I might be willing to spend.
Emotiva seems to get some nice comments but for me NAD appeals more with modularity and Dirac...pricing might be a bit better for the performance level from what I've seen of bench testing....Anthem amp sections just don't seem to be as impressive as claims either. What is it about Anthem that appeals particularly?
 
panteragstk

panteragstk

Audioholic Warlord
Emotiva seems to get some nice comments but for me NAD appeals more with modularity and Dirac...pricing might be a bit better for the performance level from what I've seen of bench testing....Anthem amp sections just don't seem to be as impressive as claims either. What is it about Anthem that appeals particularly?
From what I've read about ARC I'm going to assume that's where a lot of draw comes into play. That's what had me looking at them before I got my Denon.
 
ryanosaur

ryanosaur

Audioholic Overlord
How much is the Anthem pre-pro?
AVM60 is $3K.
What is it about Anthem that appeals particularly?
It's not part of DEI holdings. ;) Even if Issa is truly gone.

What I would like is better customization and control. especially for bass management. Marantz and Denon are very cryptic in their manuals, and dense/obtuse in their customer service personnel. I also find Audyssey limiting in what it allows me to do from a control point. (They should redo the App as $10 for what is offered now, and $20 for a much more customizable product. Including Marantz and Denon perhaps allowing for more options in speaker assignment and Amp control. (3 or 4 independent subs, for example.))
I am intellectually intrigued by Anthem and ARC. It might not solve all the problems, but right now, the grass looks greener. ;)
Likewise, I recognize the RMC1 from Emo is flawed, but d@mn... if they got that right! Especially for a grand less! (Wishful.) But that level of control and customization is what I would like to see offered.

Translated: With full range towers, and subs for infrasonic reproduction, I would like to explore Geddes technique for setting up my room more than I think I can right now. I know I am missing some obvious things in less than a year of my Marrantz ownership, but I am not as impressed as I had hoped.
 
davidscott

davidscott

Audioholic Spartan
@Phase 2 - Speaking of Sound United, Polk LSiM is on sale for 50%. Next thing you know it'll be 80% off. Going down man.
How the mighty have fallen. I had some Polk model 7Bs back in the early 80s and they might be the best sounding speakers I ever owned behind the DCM Time Windows that replaced them.
 
lovinthehd

lovinthehd

Audioholic Jedi
AVM60 is $3K.

It's not part of DEI holdings. ;) Even if Issa is truly gone.

What I would like is better customization and control. especially for bass management. Marantz and Denon are very cryptic in their manuals, and dense/obtuse in their customer service personnel. I also find Audyssey limiting in what it allows me to do from a control point. (They should redo the App as $10 for what is offered now, and $20 for a much more customizable product. Including Marantz and Denon perhaps allowing for more options in speaker assignment and Amp control. (3 or 4 independent subs, for example.))
I am intellectually intrigued by Anthem and ARC. It might not solve all the problems, but right now, the grass looks greener. ;)
Likewise, I recognize the RMC1 from Emo is flawed, but d@mn... if they got that right! Especially for a grand less! (Wishful.) But that level of control and customization is what I would like to see offered.

Translated: With full range towers, and subs for infrasonic reproduction, I would like to explore Geddes technique for setting up my room more than I think I can right now. I know I am missing some obvious things in less than a year of my Marrantz ownership, but I am not as impressed as I had hoped.
LOL.

Customer service personnel usually suck with most companies these days IMO, particularly for anything technical in nature. I think the older Denon manuals were difficult, thus Batpig's Denon to English dictionary was useful back then; current manuals I have no issue with Denon at least, nor the Marantz ones I've looked thru lately. What is it you would like the manual to explain that it doesn't? GUI between D&M is pretty much identical now too. I know you had the bad experience with Marantz repairs, tho. Audyssey app is more control than I've got on my Denons, that would be a nice option for a bit more control, tho but no backwards compatibility unfortunately, would love to try it. Audyssey actually could do up to 4 subs, but no avr manufacturer ever incorporated such features....most didn't even provide for two different subs. Expectations can be hard, tho.

Let us know when you pull the trigger and put the Anthem thru its paces! :)
 
BoredSysAdmin

BoredSysAdmin

Audioholic Slumlord
Oh, there's plenty of competition from the giant Yamaha company who make just about everything under the sun. :D

Amps - check
Pre-pros - check
Integrated Amps - check
AVRs - check
Turntables - check
$100,000 yachts/boats - check
$28,000 grand pianos - check
$21,000 motorcycles - check





You've missed a couple:
Yamaha Archery:


and a supercar (ok, that was a while ago)

https://www.carthrottle.com/post/the-yamaha-ox9911-is-a-bonkers-tandem-v12-supercar-that-died-prematurely/
 
gene

gene

Audioholics Master Chief
Administrator
Hmmmm, there is a clear distinction between the 2.

Realistically, it is just about impossible to manufacture anything with only USA sourced parts.
It sounds to me the amp modules are being built in China too. They just get stuffed in a box in Tennessee. This is much different than what Dan Laufman originally said 2 years ago in our interviews. To me that's NOT manufacturing in the USA. JS.
 

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