2nd Impeachment of Trump

[KEW]

The way I look at it is Trump's 2nd impeachment does more harm than good as far as being an immediate distraction to the things that Biden needs to work with the Senate on (stimulus and getting cabinet in place, for starters). We are in the middle of major health, economic, and political crises
However, I do believe there is no choice but to move forward with it as the message needs to be sent that the president is not above the law, even if he is on his way out.
I doubt he will be "convicted" or whatever it might be called for the Senate (impeachment-based) removal process. I also think it may have served as a deterrent on Trump's behavior. If there was no action/consequence, I think he would be desperately looking for additional ways to ambush Biden's presidency (not that some of his most recent executive orders are not doing that). As is, he seems to be laying low since he is uncertain how much damage he will suffer and if any new "sketchy" actions on his part would influence the Senate's judgement.
I'm not sure how far it goes or how long it will last, but the public removal of support from businesses may be the bigger concern for him. It looks like he owes the Deutsche Bank something like $400 million. It will be interesting to see if he declares bankruptcy yet again.
Ultimately, it is looking like his presidency will not have helped his Trump Brand, but the show continues!

 

[KEW]

Almost an hour long, but this is the best overview I have found on the on-going political conflict that incorporated the siege of the Capitol.

 

[GO-NAD!]

There are somehow Trump supporters in New Zealand. How? Why?

I'm not sure. I suppose they are people with an authoritarian mindset or just want to "tear it all down".

 

[Hetfield]

If anyone has HBO Max there is an excellent, excellent 46 minute program on the Capital attack. Its sickening.

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[highfigh]

There are somehow Trump supporters in New Zealand. How? Why?

For every bad idea, someone will see it as a great thing and location doesn't matter.

 

[lp85253]

Democratic Party is afraid of a poor old president leaving office in 5 days ?? Lmfao
He did not lead this insurrection
F this stimulus as I do not get any money as I don’t file taxes no job .

Nancy the dictator Pelosi is a hellhound lady .

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What is your point?..democracy is not synonymous with Democratic....

 

[Trell]

Now, this is a Steam Vent worthy summary of the House impeachment debate.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/01/13/republicans-just-blew-their-chance-move-trump/

"The most consistent Republican theme was calling for unity and alleging that impeachment would be too “divisive.” To hear them tell it, the obligation to bring the nation together rests entirely with Democrats. House Republicans did not call on Trump to renounce his lies about the election, and not a single one of the 139 House Republicans who voted to toss out Biden votes last week apologized for trying to subvert democracy.​

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Even as they were preaching unity, Republicans were attacking Democrats. Trevor Noah of “The Daily Show” captured the absurdity, tweeting: “EVERY GOP CONGRESSMAN: To all my Radical Dumbocrat colleagues: We need healing and unity. I say this not just to the Commies, but also to the Libtards.”[my bold]"​

 

[lp85253]

Now, this is a Steam Vent worthy summary of the House impeachment debate.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/01/13/republicans-just-blew-their-chance-move-trump/

"The most consistent Republican theme was calling for unity and alleging that impeachment would be too “divisive.” To hear them tell it, the obligation to bring the nation together rests entirely with Democrats. House Republicans did not call on Trump to renounce his lies about the election, and not a single one of the 139 House Republicans who voted to toss out Biden votes last week apologized for trying to subvert democracy.​

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Even as they were preaching unity, Republicans were attacking Democrats. Trevor Noah of “The Daily Show” captured the absurdity, tweeting: “EVERY GOP CONGRESSMAN: To all my Radical Dumbocrat colleagues: We need healing and unity. I say this not just to the Commies, but also to the Libtards.”[my bold]"​

They have perfected denial politics... "Look over there, not over here"

 

[panteragstk]

For every bad idea, someone will see it as a great thing and location doesn't matter.

I get that, but this isn't one that I can wrap my head around. Wouldn't it be very odd if a decent portion of the US was going on and on about how great Boris Johnson is? Waving flags with his name on it?

It's weird enough people here have Trump flags.

 

[highfigh]

I get that, but this isn't one that I can wrap my head around. Wouldn't it be very odd if a decent portion of the US was going on and on about how great Boris Johnson is? Waving flags with his name on it?

It's weird enough people here have Trump flags.

The Left and Right can't wrap their heads around the ideas of either side- what's left to understand? Even worse is when people on both sides can't bring themselves to consider the possibility that some of their politicians aren't acting in the country's best interests or are acting illegally or immorally.

You know how many people freaked out when Trump signed or talked about signing executive orders? Biden plans to sign dozens in his first ten days as POTUS. I suspect that many will cause a commotion.
Brexit is none of the US's concern. If all/most British people wanted to stay in the EU, they would have booted Johnson by now.

 

[highfigh]

I get that, but this isn't one that I can wrap my head around. Wouldn't it be very odd if a decent portion of the US was going on and on about how great Boris Johnson is? Waving flags with his name on it?

It's weird enough people here have Trump flags.

It's more weird that they have Confederate flags, IMO.

 

[lp85253]

The Left and Right can't wrap their heads around the ideas of either side- what's left to understand? Even worse is when people on both sides can't bring themselves to consider the possibility that some of their politicians aren't acting in the country's best interests or are acting illegally or immorally.

You know how many people freaked out when Trump signed or talked about signing executive orders? Biden plans to sign dozens in his first ten days as POTUS. I suspect that many will cause a commotion.
Brexit is none of the US's concern. If all/most British people wanted to stay in the EU, they would have booted Johnson by now.

immorality and politics are twins separated at birth...

 

[lp85253]

It's more weird that they have Confederate flags, IMO.

it's the definition of the trump hard core base.. that confederate flag defines them.. white , racist , angry...

 

[highfigh]

it's the definition of the trump hard core base.. that confederate flag defines them.. white , racist , angry...

I got a call from someone I met on a job after we were at a grocery store- I think he got my number from the homeowner. He invited me to a gathering at his house, of 'like-minded people'. I don't know where he got that idea, but I really don't think our minds are alike to the extent he thinks they are.

Any politician who has a 'hard core base' needs to get their crap in order- that's also known as a 'cult of personality' and we don't need that.

 

[highfigh]

immorality and politics are twins separated at birth...

Buncha whores, they are!

 

[lp85253]

I got a call from someone I met on a job after we were at a grocery store- I think he got my number from the homeowner. He invited me to a gathering at his house, of 'like-minded people'. I don't know where he got that idea, but I really don't think our minds are alike to the extent he thinks they are.

Any politician who has a 'hard core base' needs to get their crap in order- that's also known as a 'cult of personality' and we don't need that.

the guy is obviously recruiting/ converting...

 

[highfigh]

the guy is obviously recruiting/ converting...

Good luck trying to recruit me- I wouldn't want to be involved in something that's anywhere near hard-Left OR Right. People like that annoy the crap out of me.

 

[lp85253]

Buncha whores, they are!

criminality is the jump off point with some , not others...i'd rather be in bed with a whore than a whore that's going to steal my tv when it's over...

 

[highfigh]

criminality is the jump off point with some , not others...i'd rather be in bed with a whore than a whore that's going to steal my tv when it's over...

So, you won't be handcuffed to the TV?

 

[highfigh]

You didn't answer, so I'll take that as a yes.