Thank you, that's really informative. I ended up looking at the Polk because all my other speakers are Polk and I hear really good things about these and I've also heard its good to try and keep speakers from the same brand. As for the KEF ceiling speakers, I happened to get a good deal on them (one pair) and that lead me down this rabbit hole of where to go from here. Return the KEF and get 4 Polk. Get two more KEF or have two in ceiling and two elevation. My back wall is maybe 8-10 feet from the LP. In the diagram above, is that supposed to be placements for in ceiling or elevation? I wasn't going to do 4 elevation because I have my rear surrounds on the wall behind me. Presumably where the rear elevation speakers would go. Again thanks.