UFO's

[mtrycrafts]

I wonder, what KIND of life do you guys think it is? Do you think that they are human-like in nature, or more like the sci-fi pictures of little green men, or some other kind of creature, like in Alien? Just wondering what the general consensus is out there.

How can there be a consensus on an unknown?
Intelligence is relative too as everything that we discuss is relative to us, our known existence.

I personally think that they are human beings, just the same as us, but of course with a very different background, maybe different races than what has developed here on this planet, etc. Different languages etc.
-capT

Do you mean human in appearance as we are, 2 arms, legs, 5 toes and fingers each? 2 eyes, etc?

Don't think it has to be, but then we have no other reference of anything living out there to speculate.
Maybe they are power hungry and want to conquer? Or, they do have a UFP and will invite us to join?
Interesting speculations.

 

[Cavey]

If you were one would you come here.

 

[mtrycrafts]

If you were one would you come here.

That's hard to say. Quest for knowledge can be a powerful influence on places to visit
They certainly don't have to stop in for a chit chat once they observe from afar

 

[gmichael]

We spent how much to fly out to a rock with nothing on it? Sure, why not come here? At least we pretend to be intelligent.

 

[MACCA350]

I see little green lights, right before I pass out

 

[JoeE SP9]

We spent how much to fly out to a rock with nothing on it? Sure, why not come here? At least we pretend to be intelligent.

Do you oppose the space shuttle program also?

 

[gmichael]

Do you oppose the space shuttle program also?

Nope, I like science.

Also? Did I oppose something else? Or does someone else oppose the space program?

 

[mtrycrafts]

We spent how much to fly out to a rock with nothing on it? .

Do you mean the moon? How do you know there is nothing on it? Or Mars, for that matter? We barely scratched the surface.
Perhaps one of those space aliens landed up on that high mountain plateau in South America where there is nothing in the soil and just left?

 

[JoeE SP9]

Nope, I like science.

Also? Did I oppose something else? Or does someone else oppose the space program?

Unless I'm wrong you didn't think too much of the moon ("a rock with nothing on it")landings. That would make the shuttle program an also.

 

[agarwalro]

Everyone assumes that if some entity is observing Earth and life on Earth, humans being the most technologically advanced will be able to detect the observer. Picture the experiment you did as a kid, placing a drop of water from a pond on a microscope slide. I highly doubt any of those organisms knew that they were being ovserved.

 

[mulester7]

.....well, Guys, I got space-shipped up to a Galactic Council Meeting just last night....somewhere around the fourth galaxy to the left....we got there, and guess what?....in walked Spock....there wuz 400 representatives what attended in every form of slimmyness imaginable....the Senator from Geikxsaazdf looked like a 400 pound dark green watermelon with 18-wheeler chromed horns everywhere there was a hole....he coughed once about 10 minutes into the program and let some back pressure go at the same time, you've been there, and blew out a 1 foot thick concrete wall behind him....at that point, I woke up, and found my cover in the far corner of the room with a faint cloud above it....can anyone interpret this dream?....huh?.....

 

[JAD2]

The last estimate I heard was that there are 200 billion stars in our galaxy and there are 200 billion galaxies. Thats an awful lot of real estate for humanity to be the only intelligent life in the universe.

Exactly!!!!!!!!

 

[Buckeye_Nut]

I can't quite agree with you about that. Finding that grain of sand would not be that hard if it was making itself noticed by being a million times brighter and louder than the rest. We have been shouting at the galaxy for the 100 odd years we have been using radio and TV.

100 light years is nothing......

That's like calling your kids inside for dinner through the back door, when they're sitting right there on the back porch 3 feet away.

 

[Buckeye_Nut]

We have been advertising ourselves for such a short time and the galaxy is such a large place. We are after all stuck out here near the end of one of the arms. It is somewhere around 70,000 light years to the other side of the galaxy. It just may take some time for our babbling to be heard.

It's 50,000 lightyears from here just to the center of the galaxy. The Galactic Halo extends as far out as 300,000 to 400,000 light years in diameter.

 

[Buckeye_Nut]

As an ameture astronomer I have to say I have spent time looking at space. I find it rather arrogant for man to think that some God (what ever god you chose) created the entire universe just for us. There has to be some other life out there. But I do not believe they are visiting us on a regular basis, nor are they abducting people or cattle.

Funny thing is how at any given moment there are probably thousands of astronomers all around the world (or at least in the dark half) looking at the sky but yet it's never an astronomer that reports seeing a UFO.

Well said, I'm an astro-buff too, and drag my 16" dob to dark skies at every clear new moon opportunity. I've seen some strange things, but I have always been able to figure out what I was seeing.

I remember one strange sighting when I was new to the hobby. It was right around sunset, and I was waiting for venus to pop into view. In the general area where I was looking for Venus, a bright pinpoint of light popped into view in the still bright sky. I thought...great, there's venus. Through the telescope, I could clearly see a milky-white disc, and it had an arm sticking out that was swinging back & forth between the 12 to 3 o'clock position. On the end of the arm, there was an object flashing reddish light. Strangely enough, it wasnt moving through the field of view like a planet would. It just seemed to hang their almost stationary......... And then.... Whammo!! It vanished in a flurry of sparkles, and disappeared while I was watching it through the telescope!!!!

Things that make you go Hmmmm... and make you scratch your head.
LOL

Weather balloons dangle a box beneath to collect data, and because I was looking through a reflecter, the image was upside down and the data box was swinging upward. The box was flashing light, but it was only reflecting light from the sun. Seeing a weather balloon reach is maximum height and reach the point where it explodes isn't very common, and I was lucky to be privy to the light show as it blew itself apart

 

[JoeE SP9]

100 light years is nothing......

That's like calling your kids inside for dinner through the back door, when they're sitting right there on the back porch 3 feet away.

Yes but, you'ld have 3500 kids on the other side of the door.

 

[gmichael]

Unless I'm wrong you didn't think too much of the moon ("a rock with nothing on it")landings. That would make the shuttle program an also.

Didn't really mean it that way. Someone had asked if they (the alliens) would spend all that money just to come here. I figure, why not? At least there is life here and it's easy to find. We spent all that money to go to the moon and didn't find much. Maybe there's more there than we saw, but there sure aren't any life forms running around on the surface building roads & buildings. At least coming here would be more interesting. Now, please don't think that I'm saying, "going to the moon was boring." I was right in front of our black & white TV watching everything they would show us back then. I didn't mean it to belittle our space program, or the moon.

I thought the shuttle was/is cool too. Also love the pictures from Hubble and the news from other crafts sent through our little corner of the world.

It was all really kind of a joke.

 

[gmichael]

Do you mean the moon? How do you know there is nothing on it? Or Mars, for that matter? We barely scratched the surface.
Perhaps one of those space aliens landed up on that high mountain plateau in South America where there is nothing in the soil and just left?

We did kinda circle around a few times. If there were any buildings down there we may have seen them. But there could be more minerals etc down under.

 

[Buckeye_Nut]

Yes but, you'ld have 3500 kids on the other side of the door.

I think you are unintentionally offering misleading information.

Most of those can easily be eliminated from consideration. Once you weed out stars that are too young, too old, stellar remnants, white dwarfs, brown dwarfs, stars that have swelled into red giants or sub-giants, white & blue-white stars...etc, etc, etc.... Most spectral types are inhospitable to life and can be ruled out immediately.

That list of 3500 has been whittled down by scientists to a short list of about 30 that can even be considered as potential candidates. It's amazing what can be learned from a stars spectra. I've read a lot of this kind of stuff, and I'll see if I can provide links substantiate my above claims tomorrow. I find this stuff quite facinating.

For now... I need to hit the sack, because I have an early tee time tomorrow.

 

[mtrycrafts]

100 light years is nothing......

That's like calling your kids inside for dinner through the back door, when they're sitting right there on the back porch 3 feet away.

That's one way. Another 100 years for a response
And, those TV signals were pee poor and weak And not all go out, some are trapped.
We sent one deep probe with a plaque. WOW.
SETI listens only.