So just what is it that bothers our maga folk about transgender particularly?

[Trell]

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Those are the bottom line numbers. Hardly a rounding error.

Yes, it really is. If you bothered to read my link and my post that your replied to.

 

[Trell]

And I you.

You really are fact resistant, as so many posts with excellent references rebutting your feelings with facts proves.

 

[jinjuku]

Yes, it really is. If you bothered to read my link and my post that your replied to.

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You're an idiot.

It doesn't matter if those #'s were 10X. They are all relative. If the labor force was to 2X to 31,000,000 the GDP might double and the per capita the same. So what?

What matters is their P/L table. Facts are facts and they don't care about your feelings. The FACT is that $1 billion lost is a 10 percent bite out of their P/L accounting table that they could provide other needed services with.

 

[Trell]

You're an idiot.

It doesn't matter if those #'s were 10X. They are all relative. Of the labor force 2X to 31,000,000 the GDP might double and the per capita the same. So what?

What matters is their P/L table. Facts are facts and they don't car about your feelings. The FACT is that $1 billion lost is a 10 percent bite out of their P/L accounting table.

 

[highfigh]

I can assure you that greed is very much alive here as well.



With taxation, regulations, laws and the requirement that everyone is included. In the end it really is much cheaper and we get much better health care (in general). poop does happen, though, with bad outcome, but seldom.

Do note that there are significant differences in how universal health care is implemented in EU.

Why the hell did you give a thumbs down to a sincere comment?

 

[jinjuku]

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This is laughable that you don't understand the that 359B is the total state expenditure and you think 1B of that is a rounding error.

 

[Trell]

Why the hell did you give a thumbs down to a sincere comment?

Just because you find your post sincere does not imply that I like it, thus my thumbs down, for this post of yours.

 

[Trell]

This is laughable that you don't understand the that 359B is the total state expenditure and you think 1B of that is a rounding error.

I wrote about the size of the Texas economy from the beginning and I even gave you a proper link, that has many references, afterwards when I understood that you did not understand what I meant. And here we are, yet again.

 

[highfigh]

Just because you find your post sincere does not imply that I like it, thus my thumbs down, for this post of yours.

Maybe Sweden needs a shooting like that, to help you understand why many Americans have a problem with the way the border is being horribly mismanaged. Local law enforcement, once again, f&cked up, too.

I don't care if you liked that comment but I didn't expect you to be an a$$hole about it.

 

[jinjuku]

I wrote about the size of the Texas economy from the beginning and I even gave you a proper link, that has many references, afterwards when I understood that you did not understand what I meant. And here we are, yet again.

What fact about 359B in TX expenditures (including 1B I mentioned specifically) did you not understand?

Ok. Flip this for me. Why is the GDP number significant as a stand alone # with no other context?

 

[highfigh]

As I understand it, administration costs are a huge contributor to overall health care costs in the US, due to the number of insurance companies involved.

Remember the link I posted a couple of weeks ago about the cost of healthcare, and someone kept mentioning companies that had health care workers while I was trying to make the point about Drs, hospitals, clinics, etc? Look at the average pay for surgeons in the US vs Europe- here, they're paid extremely well while in Europe, not so much. One site where I checked showed that European surgeons average about $89K while some in the US can make millions if they choose the high paying areas. Malpractice insurance is another factor- the cost is extremely high because of the litigious nature of this country.

The Orthopedic surgeon who initially checked my knee didn't order an MRI, wanted to argue about what I told him (like the fact that my left kneecap is lower than my right) and made assumptions about what constitutes 'returning to 100%". He sent me to physical therapy, where the goal was to improve strength but if the MRI had been ordered, that should never have happened. When we looked at the MRI together, his first comment was "Wow- that's a lot worse than I thought", then admitted that he'd made a bad diagnosis. He then recommended that I go to a Sports Medicine specialist, to get a second opinion. That Dr immediately aid he wanted to see X-Rays, which showed, surprise!, that my left kneecap is a full inch lower than the right. He talked about what could happen if surgery happens and he definitely didn't fill me with warm fuzzies, that's for sure.

 

[Trell]

Maybe Sweden needs a shooting like that, to help you understand why many Americans have a problem with the way the border is being horribly mismanaged. Local law enforcement, once again, f&cked up, too.

I don't care if you liked that comment but I didn't expect you to be an a$$hole about it.

I dunno, about 25% of the Swedish population is either born outside of Sweden or have a parent born outside of Sweden. Most of this increase has been since about 2000 or so, but I'll have to check official statistics for this (yes, we have that).

 

[Trell]

What fact about 359B in TX expenditures (including 1B I mentioned specifically) did you not understand?

Ok. Flip this for me. Why is the GDP number significant as a stand alone # with no other context?

I understand pretty well, I think, and I'm not even an economist. That said, GPD is one of several imperfect measurements of total economic activity, and $1 billion (your number) in the context of $2.4 trillion is not much. The Texan economy will have no problem absorbing this relatively very small amount of expenses (a rounding error).

On the other hand $1 billion is a lot of money, and like you I want it to be put to best possible and efficient use.

 

[Dude#1279435]

Do you? I was pretty clear about the focus being more about maga than more reasonable people (altho the lack of feedback denying the magas from such is somewhat mystifying). I'm just more wondering about the legislative aspects of the maga crowd vs the feelings of "conservatives" in general. Hopefully most of the "conservatives" who are not with maga will someday voice their concerns rather than just say nothing?

I think it's likely they want to keep Trump in their back pocket for later. Should he survive court. Transition from the Floyd riots to Jan 6th and there was dead silence because I assume the first person that came to their minds was Trump. (However, these things are interchangeable and it could be the Democrats next time around.) I think overall it's stand-offishy. Joe's wants to run again so there is that issue. And Trump in a hypothetical primary and I'll believe differently when I see it. There's hasn't been a reason to during the Trump era.

 

[Dude#1279435]

I think it's likely they want to keep Trump in their back pocket for later. Should he survive court. Transition from the Floyd riots to Jan 6th and there was dead silence because I assume the first person that came to their minds was Trump. (However, these things are interchangeable and it could be the Democrats next time around.) I think overall it's stand-offishy. Joe's wants to run again so there is that issue. And Trump in a hypothetical primary and I'll believe differently when I see it. There's hasn't been a reason to during the Trump era.

It's why I said Trump has to a) die, or b) convict him in court since then it would come down to the voters.

On the other end, if the democrats want to maintain any semblance of dignity they have to force Biden out after his term is up.

 

[Dude#1279435]

c) Murdoch doesn't let Fox air any Trump

Then d) voters

Cynical of me maybe but my scale.

 

[jinjuku]

I understand pretty well, I think, and I'm not even an economist. That said, GPD is one of several imperfect measurements of total economic activity, and $1 billion (your number) in the context of $2.4 trillion is not much. The Texan economy will have no problem absorbing this relatively very small amount of expenses (a rounding error).

On the other hand $1 billion is a lot of money, and like you I want it to be put to best possible and efficient use.

GDP is a measure of everyone's output in the state. It's product, services, finished goods that are produced.

I'm not sure how you correlate this when the real # to look at is the state budget spend on all services. It's $359B.

You might as well compare TX spend to your own national GDP. One has nothing to do with the other.

 

[Trell]

GDP is a measure of everyone's output in the state. It's product, services, finished goods that are produced.

That’s kind of what I wrote, isn’t it?

I'm not sure how you correlate this when the real # to look at is the state budget spend on all services. It's $359B.

The state budget is not the entire economy of Texas, but for sure a big and important part.

 

[jinjuku]

The state budget is not the entire economy of Texas, but for sure a big and important part.

It's still what their spend is and it has limits. I'm comparing the 1B to what they have to spend. Why is your GDP number a more accurate representation?

 

[rsa17]

Can you? I think it's fairly obvious the fear in the maga crowd on this and a variety of other subjects. It's sort of a basis of their propaganda.