Outlaw - 5 Channel Amp or 5 Monoblocks?

[xboxweasel]

.....(hush)....(Clint's watchin').....

Who is Clint and why is he watching?

 

[mulester7]

.....guys, to be honest, I sense a shootout over amps is coming....I fear losing the presence I get from the main's regiment with these K2's....a K2 put the McIntosh MC2200 in storage, esteemed colleagues, and you would have felt the same had you been here....now cometh the ground rumbling from the creation of a car amp company....who knows?, I'm rather bashful about posting, but I may report.....

 

[mulester7]

Who is Clint and why is he watching?

....who is Clint?....man, that right there will get you a week....hey, he's watchin' because he cares about us....yay, Clint.....(somebody jump in, I'm sinkin' fast)......

 

[3db]

So whats the price difference between Outlaw and Earthquake

Are they even close ( not further apart than $200.00) or are we talking grapes and cognac? If its the latter, than I have alot of respect for the oultaw products being compared to something much more prciey and still showing a respectable performance

 

[tdeluce]

Are they even close ( not further apart than $200.00) or are we talking grapes and cognac? If its the latter, than I have alot of respect for the oultaw products being compared to something much more prciey and still showing a respectable performance

I believe the Earthquake can be had for about 30% more money than
three Outlaw monoblocks BUT when listening at reference levels there
really is no comparison between them, in my opinion...

 

[frankf]

Monoblocks or 5 Channel or maybe 7 Channel?

ZoFo, there are many choices out there and sometimes to much info makes choices a hard thing to do.I am waiting for my Outlaw 5 Channel amplifier.It is rated 200watts per as you probably know. I am making a test run using my Yamaha 3300-100watts per channel as a processor.
I had thought of monos but in my case (Steve) at the hideout told me that you should, when buying audio equipment try to think of the future....the idea being that what if I deceided to step up in the processor area of my HT? That would mean purchasing more monos. Also never say never, think about a 7 Channel Amplifier. You never know what can happen. This idea could interest you in the future if you are not toying around with the idea already.
If this is a hobby to you changes are endless and never ending. You could ask my wife.
Also when i was talking to Steve for Outlaw he told me that they are introducing two new amplifiers. The 7500 5 Channel and the 7700 7 Channel both 200 watts per channel. Like i said the Outlaw is a test run and i will probably step up to the new amplifier and maybe even the 7Channel.
By the way Steve was not sure of the prices but he gave me an idea:
7500@$1500
7700@$17-1800

 

[mulester7]

I believe the Earthquake can be had for about 30% more money than
three Outlaw monoblocks BUT when listening at reference levels there
really is no comparison between them, in my opinion...

.....and TDeluce, just the transformer in the Earthquake 3 weighs 40 pounds, by it's lonesome....guys, they're movin' 'em out for some reason....if the reason is XLR inputs on this year's models, that's of no value in home theater really, with the amp being hooked to the pre by a three foot cable....XLR inputs are needed in professional applications where the amp can be closer to speakers it pushes, with a long run of the signals to the amp....same principal as low impedence mics....low impedence circuitry inside....I'm pretty sure my 5 channel will have XLR inputs....I will use them, even at three feet....long runs are possible using the XLR's, how could it not be better at three feet?....I'm not trying to lessen the Outlaw mono's in any way, but this Earthquake move-out is the hottest dance in town at this time, imo....I might know a way to get the three channel to your door for $1350, and the 5 channel to your door for right at two....PM'eth me if interested, but I predict cobwebs in the inbox as usual......

 

[mulester7]

.....TDeluce, I'm thinkin' about knockin' you out, and takin' your 3 channel Earthquake for spare parts....how big an ole' boy are ya'?....huh?......

 

[Reorx]

Mule,
When you get your new amp, what about bi-amping everything?
This way your old amps could still be put to use.
Plus I'm sure they have some sentimental value to you.

Reorx

 

[tdeluce]

.....TDeluce, I'm thinkin' about knockin' you out, and takin' your 3 channel Earthquake for spare parts....how big an ole' boy are ya'?....huh?......

I will definitely put up a fight for my Earthquake amp.

I may not be the biggest guy around but I have a couple of friends that hang
around the house.

Maybe you know them? Smith and Wesson

 

[mawst95]

.....and TDeluce, just the transformer in the Earthquake 3 weighs 40 pounds, by it's lonesome....guys, they're movin' 'em out for some reason....if the reason is XLR inputs on this year's models, that's of no value in home theater really, with the amp being hooked to the pre by a three foot cable....XLR inputs are needed in professional applications where the amp can be closer to speakers it pushes, with a long run of the signals to the amp....same principal as low impedence mics....low impedence circuitry inside....I'm pretty sure my 5 channel will have XLR inputs....I will use them, even at three feet....long runs are possible using the XLR's, how could it not be better at three feet?....I'm not trying to lessen the Outlaw mono's in any way, but this Earthquake move-out is the hottest dance in town at this time, imo....I might know a way to get the three channel to your door for $1350, and the 5 channel to your door for right at two....PM'eth me if interested, but I predict cobwebs in the inbox as usual......

Hi. Could I have the Earthquake 3 channel to test for about 8 months? Thanks. I like to be thorough.

 

[mulester7]

Mule,
When you get your new amp, what about bi-amping everything?
This way your old amps could still be put to use.
Plus I'm sure they have some sentimental value to you.

Reorx

.....Reorx, I don't have a clue what's up....everything hinges on my not being disappointed in the Earthquake for the main's regiment....the four K2's will go to the low end, all strapped, 2 small cannons, and two mini-barns....if, the Earthquake gets the nod....I'll be honest, the Earthquake is going to have to go a BUNCH at this shootout....but, it getting the nod for the main's regiment, will save me big bucks on three or four more K2's I was looking at buying....three more to the street where ya' live, would be about $4000....it's going to boil down to the presence of the Earthquake probably, and possibly whether or not I think I can fix it....I found cause to shutter a bit, when one comment I heard about the sound quality of the Earthquake was, "sounds laid-back".....the comment that keeps me going, is, "it gets cleaner the louder it gets"....thank you, Mr. OverFortyPoundTransformer....we'll see, I'm going to step out on a limb here and say the amp holds my interests much at this time....I'm serious, a shootout is coming....correct, I ordered a case of blindfolds yesterday, you bet....at some point of the shootout, the Earthquake will only be powering the front mains with a K2 powering the rears, and vice-versa.....110 signal noise at 10K, with over 95 db of channel seperation....staggering....the stage is set.....come on, car amp company....probably won't show for a week or better....will 2-wheel it around the house, come in the back door which is level to a patio which is level to the yard ,and set it on the floor behind the theater chamber....will run initial tests from there still on crate foundation....I truly hope the testing will warrant a crain-effort to place 141 pounds in it's spot I've picked on the component cabinet right next to my cassette machines....all four K2's stacked, will sit flush, on top of the Earthquake 5, with all five components, as a stack, Saran-Wrapped top to bottom....just kidding, but hey, if you're gonna' build a bomb, why mess around?....one K2 WILL sit on top of the Earthquake though, I ain't stewpid, holes will be punched in the Saran-Wrap........

 

[mulester7]

Hi. Could I have the Earthquake 3 channel to test for about 8 months? Thanks. I like to be thorough.

.....well, Mawst, I'd love to help you, I'm that kinda' guy, but all I got coming is a 5 channel.....hit ole' TDeluce up, he's got a 3....that's him over by the Coke machine with the Florescent Orange with Light-Blue "stripes" shirt, with the Forest Green and Light-Pink "plaid" pants....yeah, we're workin' with him.....

 

[tdeluce]

.....well, Mawst, I'd love to help you, I'm that kinda' guy, but all I got coming is a 5 channel.....hit ole' TDeluce up, he's got a 3....that's him over by the Coke machine with the Florescent Orange with Light-Blue "stripes" shirt, with the Forest Green and Light-Pink "plaid" pants....yeah, we're workin' with him.....

All you have to do is slide out the second and fourth amps and you will
have the 3 channel version of the amp.


I don't know - do you think that the 3.6KVA transformer can handle the
peaks on all five channels?

 

[mulester7]

All you have to do is slide out the second and fourth amps and you will
have the 3 channel version of the amp.


I don't know - do you think that the 3.6KVA transformer can handle the
peaks on all five channels?

.....well, TDeluce, considering Earthquake only increased the size of the transformer for their 7 channel up to 4.0 KVA, I'm going to say the 3.6 is plenty for the 5, and mega-plenty for the 3 channel....you know, if a guy had a 3 channel, and a 5 channel, he'd have 8 channels, wouldn't he?....that could be power for mains and center for the 3 channel, and a second center, surrounds, and rears for the 5 channel amp....somebody splash me in the face with ice water and wake me up.......

 

[tdeluce]

.....well, TDeluce, considering Earthquake only increased the size of the transformer for their 7 channel up to 4.0 KVA, I'm going to say the 3.6 is plenty for the 5, and mega-plenty for the 3 channel....you know, if a guy had a 3 channel, and a 5 channel, he'd have 8 channels, wouldn't he?....that could be power for mains and center for the 3 channel, and a second center, surrounds, and rears for the 5 channel amp....somebody splash me in the face with ice water and wake me up.......

As long as your speakers don't dip below 4 ohms much you should
be just fine with that paltry 3.6KVA transformer and 5 channels

Assuming of course you have an isolated circuit for the Earthquake AMP...

 

[mulester7]

As long as your speakers don't dip below 4 ohms much you should
be just fine with that paltry 3.6KVA transformer and 5 channels

Assuming of course you have an isolated circuit for the Earthquake AMP...

.....TDeluce, please tell me about the sound quality of your 3 channel Earthquake compared to the mono-blocks you were using, if you would......

 

[tdeluce]

.....TDeluce, please tell me about the sound quality of your 3 channel Earthquake compared to the mono-blocks you were using, if you would......

I believe I have already posted this a couple times somewhere on this
forum but I belive most people listening at lower volumes may not hear
much of a difference.

Personally I believe the SQ is more detailed and richer / fuller even
at normal listening levels. I will be the first to admit this may be
subjective.

BUT, at reference level ( and above there is simply no comparison. The
Outlaws clip and the Earthquake ROCKS. The sound is un-frig'in-believable -
the bass is tight and highs are crystal clear. I don't expecting I will
upgrading my amp anytime ( at least for the next decade or two

 

[mulester7]

I believe I have already posted this a couple times somewhere on this
forum but I belive most people listening at lower volumes may not hear
much of a difference.

Personally I believe the SQ is more detailed and richer / fuller even
at normal listening levels. I will be the first to admit this may be
subjective.

BUT, at reference level ( and above there is simply no comparison. The
Outlaws clip and the Earthquake ROCKS. The sound is un-frig'in-believable -
the bass is tight and highs are crystal clear. I don't expecting I will
upgrading my amp anytime ( at least for the next decade or two

.....good report, TDeluce....I'm crossing my fingers....the presence of the voice is everything....the seperation will be there....the lack of noise will be there....after lifting 141 pounds into place though, the back may not be there, haha.........

 

[tdeluce]

.....good report, TDeluce....I'm crossing my fingers....the presence of the voice is everything....the seperation will be there....the lack of noise will be there....after lifting 141 pounds into place though, the back may not be there, haha.........

My 3 channel only ways 120 pounds

I took the bottom glass shelf off my equipment rack and layed the
Earthquake AMP on top of the metal - I didn't want to take a chance
on cracking the glass...