majorloser Moderator Aug 7, 2005 7,071 0 113 Florida aka: Hurricane Central Mar 6, 2014 #61 Adam said: I love it when we discuss history. Click to expand... And to think, nobody brought up Archduke Ferdinand and the Serbians. Reactions: Alex2507
Adam said: I love it when we discuss history. Click to expand... And to think, nobody brought up Archduke Ferdinand and the Serbians.
haraldo Audioholic Warlord Feb 25, 2008 7,916 0 113 63 Endor Mar 6, 2014 #62 Espreseo.TV reports that russia now invades Georgia again, russian air forces are crossing the Georgia borders According to Espeso.TV putin now talks to Obama that East Ukraine needs help, before he talked about Krimea, I am afraid this shows an escalation of the conflict from russia's side Last edited by a moderator: Oct 19, 2014
Espreseo.TV reports that russia now invades Georgia again, russian air forces are crossing the Georgia borders According to Espeso.TV putin now talks to Obama that East Ukraine needs help, before he talked about Krimea, I am afraid this shows an escalation of the conflict from russia's side
Ponzio Audioholic Samurai Jul 23, 2010 2,736 0 113 Mar 7, 2014 #63 haraldo said: Espreseo.TV reports that russia now invades Georgia again, russian air forces are crossing the Georgia borders According to Espeso.TV putin now talks to Obama that East Ukraine needs help, before he talked about Krimea, I am afraid this shows an escalation of the conflict from russia's side Click to expand... The link to Espreseo TV isn't working right now but that is a ramp up in escalation on Putin's part if true. Here's an interesting story from Reuters today, via Yahoo, on the relationship between Putin & Merkel. Cold War past shapes complex Merkel-Putin relationship Last edited by a moderator: Oct 19, 2014
haraldo said: Espreseo.TV reports that russia now invades Georgia again, russian air forces are crossing the Georgia borders According to Espeso.TV putin now talks to Obama that East Ukraine needs help, before he talked about Krimea, I am afraid this shows an escalation of the conflict from russia's side Click to expand... The link to Espreseo TV isn't working right now but that is a ramp up in escalation on Putin's part if true. Here's an interesting story from Reuters today, via Yahoo, on the relationship between Putin & Merkel. Cold War past shapes complex Merkel-Putin relationship
GO-NAD! Audioholic Warlord Apr 7, 2009 8,255 0 113 Nova Scotia, Canada Mar 7, 2014 #64 majorloser said: And to think, nobody brought up Archduke Ferdinand and the Serbians. Click to expand... Their last record sucked! Reactions: markw, Rickster71 and Adam
majorloser said: And to think, nobody brought up Archduke Ferdinand and the Serbians. Click to expand... Their last record sucked!
Rickster71 Audioholic Spartan Jan 15, 2006 7,170 0 113 N.J. Mar 7, 2014 #65 As we still wait on the east coast for all of the Federal money for hurricane Sandy relief.... A Billion dollars from USA to Ukraine. http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/05/w...-1-billion-in-loan-guarantees-to-ukraine.html
As we still wait on the east coast for all of the Federal money for hurricane Sandy relief.... A Billion dollars from USA to Ukraine. http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/05/w...-1-billion-in-loan-guarantees-to-ukraine.html
GO-NAD! Audioholic Warlord Apr 7, 2009 8,255 0 113 Nova Scotia, Canada Mar 7, 2014 #66 Rickster71 said: As we still wait on the east coast for all of the Federal money for hurricane Sandy relief.... A Billion dollars from USA to Ukraine. http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/05/w...-1-billion-in-loan-guarantees-to-ukraine.html Click to expand... Aww, quit yer bellyachin'! They're just investing the money in a place where it's less likely to go to waste...
Rickster71 said: As we still wait on the east coast for all of the Federal money for hurricane Sandy relief.... A Billion dollars from USA to Ukraine. http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/05/w...-1-billion-in-loan-guarantees-to-ukraine.html Click to expand... Aww, quit yer bellyachin'! They're just investing the money in a place where it's less likely to go to waste...
Adam Audioholic Jedi Jul 5, 2006 32,066 0 113 Tucson, Arizona Mar 7, 2014 #67 GO-NAD! said: Aww, quit yer bellyachin'! They're just investing the money in a place where it's less likely to go to waste... Click to expand... No...they just invested the money. Remember, this thread is about history, dude. I was going to give Rick grief, but then I saw the article was from two days ago...so, history. Reactions: GO-NAD! and Ponzio
GO-NAD! said: Aww, quit yer bellyachin'! They're just investing the money in a place where it's less likely to go to waste... Click to expand... No...they just invested the money. Remember, this thread is about history, dude. I was going to give Rick grief, but then I saw the article was from two days ago...so, history.
lsiberian Audioholic Overlord Nov 17, 2008 12,393 0 113 On A Bridge in Fort Worth Mar 7, 2014 #68 Rickster71 said: There were a couple of people that warned of this, back in 2008 and again in 2012. They were mocked by the press. Click to expand... A broken clock is right twice a day. Seriously a war is a very distinct possibility and even if it's just economic it would be terrible for everyone. It looks like Russia is calling the bluff on Crimea. This situation is getting more tense it seems.
Rickster71 said: There were a couple of people that warned of this, back in 2008 and again in 2012. They were mocked by the press. Click to expand... A broken clock is right twice a day. Seriously a war is a very distinct possibility and even if it's just economic it would be terrible for everyone. It looks like Russia is calling the bluff on Crimea. This situation is getting more tense it seems.
Rickster71 Audioholic Spartan Jan 15, 2006 7,170 0 113 N.J. Mar 7, 2014 #69 It kinda hits close to home. We know many people that live just 20 minutes east of us that paid for Federal flood insurance and are still waiting. Paying their mortgage on a house they can't live in. It doesn't stay in the news like Hurricane Katrina did.
It kinda hits close to home. We know many people that live just 20 minutes east of us that paid for Federal flood insurance and are still waiting. Paying their mortgage on a house they can't live in. It doesn't stay in the news like Hurricane Katrina did.
Rickster71 Audioholic Spartan Jan 15, 2006 7,170 0 113 N.J. Mar 7, 2014 #70 lsiberian said: A broken clock is right twice a day. Seriously a war is a very distinct possibility and even if it's just economic it would be terrible for everyone. It looks like Russia is calling the bluff on Crimea. This situation is getting more tense it seems. Click to expand... I agree about the broken clock. No one had a Magic 8 ball. It's just troubling how unprofessionally the press/media handled it. None of them are neutral or unbiased.
lsiberian said: A broken clock is right twice a day. Seriously a war is a very distinct possibility and even if it's just economic it would be terrible for everyone. It looks like Russia is calling the bluff on Crimea. This situation is getting more tense it seems. Click to expand... I agree about the broken clock. No one had a Magic 8 ball. It's just troubling how unprofessionally the press/media handled it. None of them are neutral or unbiased.
Ponzio Audioholic Samurai Jul 23, 2010 2,736 0 113 Mar 7, 2014 #71 Rickster71 said: It's just troubling how unprofessionally the press/media handled it. None of them are neutral or unbiased. Click to expand... Speaking of my "quantum leap not withstanding".
Rickster71 said: It's just troubling how unprofessionally the press/media handled it. None of them are neutral or unbiased. Click to expand... Speaking of my "quantum leap not withstanding".
Rickster71 Audioholic Spartan Jan 15, 2006 7,170 0 113 N.J. Mar 7, 2014 #72 Ponzio said: Speaking of my "quantum leap not withstanding". Click to expand... I don't want to further derail this thread. Here are a few video clips, solely to point out how unprofessional the News is. Rothman: MSNBC’s Most Embarrassing Mockery of Romney’s Russia Warnings | Mediaite The media should be practicing investigative journalism, not picking sides. Reactions: Ponzio
Ponzio said: Speaking of my "quantum leap not withstanding". Click to expand... I don't want to further derail this thread. Here are a few video clips, solely to point out how unprofessional the News is. Rothman: MSNBC’s Most Embarrassing Mockery of Romney’s Russia Warnings | Mediaite The media should be practicing investigative journalism, not picking sides.
Ponzio Audioholic Samurai Jul 23, 2010 2,736 0 113 Mar 7, 2014 #73 Hopefully this is my last comment on the subject of the impartiality or lack thereof the press. All of them have a bone to pick, left, right ... it doesn't matter and I try not to get pissed about it because it's all shite, as the Brit's say. I doubt whether the people at Faux News or MSN-BS are worried about what little 'ol me thinks. It's all about the ratings & grandstanding. A pox on both their houses!!!
Hopefully this is my last comment on the subject of the impartiality or lack thereof the press. All of them have a bone to pick, left, right ... it doesn't matter and I try not to get pissed about it because it's all shite, as the Brit's say. I doubt whether the people at Faux News or MSN-BS are worried about what little 'ol me thinks. It's all about the ratings & grandstanding. A pox on both their houses!!!
GO-NAD! Audioholic Warlord Apr 7, 2009 8,255 0 113 Nova Scotia, Canada Mar 7, 2014 #74 Rickster71 said: I don't want to further derail this thread. Here are a few video clips, solely to point out how unprofessional the News is. Rothman: MSNBC’s Most Embarrassing Mockery of Romney’s Russia Warnings | Mediaite The media should be practicing investigative journalism, not picking sides. Click to expand... Ponzio said: Hopefully this is my last comment on the subject of the impartiality or lack thereof the press. All of them have a bone to pick, left, right ... it doesn't matter and I try not to get pissed about it because it's all shite, as the Brit's say. I doubt whether the people at Faux News or MSN-BS are worried about what little 'ol me thinks. It's all about the ratings & grandstanding. A pox on both their houses!!! Click to expand... I still don't think the events in Ukraine make Romney a prescient sage. Calling Russia the “number one geopolitical foe” of America is - to me - still a bit over the top. Their actions in the Crimea - while unacceptable - weren't meant to be, nor are they as a consequence, a challenge to US power and influence. It's only a challenge if we decide to make it one. My impression, at the moment, is that it was mainly for domestic purposes - to bolster Putin's flagging popularity and try to circumvent closer ties between Ukraine and the west. If the US and her allies completely ignored what is going on in the region, there would be no real negative consequences - unless you are Ukrainian, of course. Russia isn't trying to expand her influence, she is trying to maintain the influence she has. And, if she needs to steal neighbouring territory to do it, well...so be it. Any action on the part of the US and her allies to counter Russia's actions are purely - as I see it - moral in nature. We aren't losing any territory or markets to Russia. I would suggest that the number one foe of America and the west would be China, with assorted middle-eastern loonies and North Korea following closely behind. Here's another take on events: The Ukraine crisis through the whimsy of international law - World - CBC News We can kick up a stink about what Russia is doing, but we, i.e. NATO, aren't exactly innocent in such matters. Reactions: Ponzio
Rickster71 said: I don't want to further derail this thread. Here are a few video clips, solely to point out how unprofessional the News is. Rothman: MSNBC’s Most Embarrassing Mockery of Romney’s Russia Warnings | Mediaite The media should be practicing investigative journalism, not picking sides. Click to expand... Ponzio said: Hopefully this is my last comment on the subject of the impartiality or lack thereof the press. All of them have a bone to pick, left, right ... it doesn't matter and I try not to get pissed about it because it's all shite, as the Brit's say. I doubt whether the people at Faux News or MSN-BS are worried about what little 'ol me thinks. It's all about the ratings & grandstanding. A pox on both their houses!!! Click to expand... I still don't think the events in Ukraine make Romney a prescient sage. Calling Russia the “number one geopolitical foe” of America is - to me - still a bit over the top. Their actions in the Crimea - while unacceptable - weren't meant to be, nor are they as a consequence, a challenge to US power and influence. It's only a challenge if we decide to make it one. My impression, at the moment, is that it was mainly for domestic purposes - to bolster Putin's flagging popularity and try to circumvent closer ties between Ukraine and the west. If the US and her allies completely ignored what is going on in the region, there would be no real negative consequences - unless you are Ukrainian, of course. Russia isn't trying to expand her influence, she is trying to maintain the influence she has. And, if she needs to steal neighbouring territory to do it, well...so be it. Any action on the part of the US and her allies to counter Russia's actions are purely - as I see it - moral in nature. We aren't losing any territory or markets to Russia. I would suggest that the number one foe of America and the west would be China, with assorted middle-eastern loonies and North Korea following closely behind. Here's another take on events: The Ukraine crisis through the whimsy of international law - World - CBC News We can kick up a stink about what Russia is doing, but we, i.e. NATO, aren't exactly innocent in such matters.
Adam Audioholic Jedi Jul 5, 2006 32,066 0 113 Tucson, Arizona Mar 7, 2014 #75 GO-NAD! said: ...prescient sage. Click to expand... Impressive. While I actually guessed right, I still looked up both of those words to make sure.
GO-NAD! said: ...prescient sage. Click to expand... Impressive. While I actually guessed right, I still looked up both of those words to make sure.
GO-NAD! Audioholic Warlord Apr 7, 2009 8,255 0 113 Nova Scotia, Canada Mar 7, 2014 #76 Adam said: Impressive. While I actually guessed right, I still looked up both of those words to make sure. Click to expand... Full disclosure: I was pretty confident that I had used the terms correctly...... but, I checked that I had it right before posting. Canada expels Russian soldiers in response to Ukraine crisis - Politics - CBC News Hey, we just kicked out 9 Russian soldiers. I'm sure they'll see the light and pull out of Crimea now. Reactions: Ponzio
Adam said: Impressive. While I actually guessed right, I still looked up both of those words to make sure. Click to expand... Full disclosure: I was pretty confident that I had used the terms correctly...... but, I checked that I had it right before posting. Canada expels Russian soldiers in response to Ukraine crisis - Politics - CBC News Hey, we just kicked out 9 Russian soldiers. I'm sure they'll see the light and pull out of Crimea now.
Rickster71 Audioholic Spartan Jan 15, 2006 7,170 0 113 N.J. Mar 7, 2014 #77 GO-NAD! said: I still don't think the events in Ukraine make Romney a prescient sage. Calling Russia the “number one geopolitical foe” of America is - to me - still a bit over the top. Click to expand... That's only because you completely missed where I wrote: Here are a few video clips, solely to point out how unprofessional the News is. The media should be practicing investigative journalism, not picking sides. Last edited by a moderator: Oct 19, 2014
GO-NAD! said: I still don't think the events in Ukraine make Romney a prescient sage. Calling Russia the “number one geopolitical foe” of America is - to me - still a bit over the top. Click to expand... That's only because you completely missed where I wrote: Here are a few video clips, solely to point out how unprofessional the News is. The media should be practicing investigative journalism, not picking sides.
Rickster71 Audioholic Spartan Jan 15, 2006 7,170 0 113 N.J. Mar 7, 2014 #78 Ponzio said: Hopefully this is my last comment on the subject of the impartiality or lack thereof the press. All of them have a bone to pick, left, right ... it doesn't matter and I try not to get pissed about it because it's all shite, as the Brit's say. I doubt whether the people at Faux News or MSN-BS are worried about what little 'ol me thinks. It's all about the ratings & grandstanding. A pox on both their houses!!! Click to expand... Just to point out a different perspective: I think it does matter, or they wouldn't be doing it. It matters because they're Manufacturing Consent, instead of fairly reporting the news. I changed my mind after I read this book by Edward Bernays some years ago - Propaganda Quotes by Edward L. Bernays
Ponzio said: Hopefully this is my last comment on the subject of the impartiality or lack thereof the press. All of them have a bone to pick, left, right ... it doesn't matter and I try not to get pissed about it because it's all shite, as the Brit's say. I doubt whether the people at Faux News or MSN-BS are worried about what little 'ol me thinks. It's all about the ratings & grandstanding. A pox on both their houses!!! Click to expand... Just to point out a different perspective: I think it does matter, or they wouldn't be doing it. It matters because they're Manufacturing Consent, instead of fairly reporting the news. I changed my mind after I read this book by Edward Bernays some years ago - Propaganda Quotes by Edward L. Bernays
GO-NAD! Audioholic Warlord Apr 7, 2009 8,255 0 113 Nova Scotia, Canada Mar 7, 2014 #79 Rickster71 said: That's only because you completely missed where I wrote: Here are a few video clips, solely to point out how unprofessional the News is. The media should be practicing investigative journalism, not picking sides. Click to expand... Oh, I didn't miss what you wrote. If you were pointing out that commentators are trying to vindicate Romney without justification, then I understand your point. Did I miss something else? Last edited by a moderator: Oct 19, 2014
Rickster71 said: That's only because you completely missed where I wrote: Here are a few video clips, solely to point out how unprofessional the News is. The media should be practicing investigative journalism, not picking sides. Click to expand... Oh, I didn't miss what you wrote. If you were pointing out that commentators are trying to vindicate Romney without justification, then I understand your point. Did I miss something else?
Rickster71 Audioholic Spartan Jan 15, 2006 7,170 0 113 N.J. Mar 7, 2014 #80 GO-NAD! said: Oh, I didn't miss what you wrote. If you were pointing out that commentators are trying to vindicate Romney without justification, then I understand your point. Did I miss something else? Click to expand... Vindicate? No, every commentator mocked him. Picking sides isn't journalism. EDIT: I'm always draw to these discussions when I should be working Last edited: Mar 7, 2014
GO-NAD! said: Oh, I didn't miss what you wrote. If you were pointing out that commentators are trying to vindicate Romney without justification, then I understand your point. Did I miss something else? Click to expand... Vindicate? No, every commentator mocked him. Picking sides isn't journalism. EDIT: I'm always draw to these discussions when I should be working
