I Am a Ukrainian

[Ponzio]

Great analysis NAD and very “prescient” in my eyes; both the articles and your own take.

Watching world leaders trade barbs is like watching hookers arguing who among them is the most chaste.

 

[Adam]

Watching world leaders trade barbs is like watching hookers arguing who among them is the most chaste.

Either you've seen some outstanding conversations between world leaders, or you simply have never seen the latter.

 

[Ponzio]

You mean reading about it every day doesn't count?

 

[lsiberian]

Full disclosure: I was pretty confident that I had used the terms correctly...... but, I checked that I had it right before posting.

Canada expels Russian soldiers in response to Ukraine crisis - Politics - CBC News

Hey, we just kicked out 9 Russian soldiers. I'm sure they'll see the light and pull out of Crimea now.

Those Mounties can get mean when pushed.

 

[GO-NAD!]

Vindicate?
No, every commentator mocked him.
Picking sides isn't journalism.
EDIT: I'm always draw to these discussions when I should be working

Gotcha. I was reading it quickly, and missed what you meant. I look on those comments about Romney as "editorial", which is fair. Just as long as it's recognized as such. Opinions expressed in the news media area fair ball, as long as they have some support by the "facts". These people were a bit overboard with their criticism. Other media are allowed to voice their support for Romney's opinion, if they feel inclined.

 

[haraldo]

There are very scary signals now..... signals about a major escalation from russian side...... I am really afraid of a full blown war within two days..... Or that russia will fully wipe out larger areas of Crimea, embrace East Ukraine and go to Kyiv, it's what's suggested as a possibility from espreso.tv as I understand.....

 

[Ponzio]

Where the rubber hits the road.

It will be interesting to see what our NATO allies do about Russia's inevitable annexation of Crimea. Here's a report on what possible US sanctions have on our corporations and economy.
As talk of Russia sanctions heats up, business draws a cautionary line - The Washington Post

 

[Chu Gai]

For those that don't know, the Paralympics are being held in Sochi.

 

[markw]

Either you've seen some outstanding conversations between world leaders, or you simply have never seen the latter.

Actually, there's not a lot of difference between politicians and hookers. Any time one deals with either, it costs money and someone gets screwed

 

[haraldo]

For those that don't know, the Paralympics are being held in Sochi.

This is their olympic logo

 

[haraldo]

My wife was on Maidan yesterday (Kyiv city centre) and it was a shocking experience for her, everything is black, black as... as black as it gets, from smoke of burning tires... what was streets are now just black..... people look extremely scary, after staying there for 3 to 4 months they're almost like zombies......

just hope this can come to an end now soon !!!!!!

 

[Chu Gai]

My admittedly superficial take on this is that Crimea is lost. Just like those small sections of Georgia that are now 'Russian'. I don't think Putin really wants Ukraine as my layman understanding is that the country is a mess economically. I don't even think the EU wants it as a member because they're so weak what with all the bailouts that have been undertaken over the years. I think the move into Crimea is part of a longer range plan by Russia. That plan is energy. They just want to confirm that the rest of the world is feckless. As the Arctic becomes more exposed due to vanishing ice, I see the Russians making swift and decisive moves there to claim large swaths of territory which they can use to drill for oil and sell to the world which is in need. Unstability keeps prices high

 

[Ponzio]

My admittedly superficial take on this is that Crimea is lost. Just like those small sections of Georgia that are now 'Russian'. I don't think Putin really wants Ukraine as my layman understanding is that the country is a mess economically. I don't even think the EU wants it as a member because they're so weak what with all the bailouts that have been undertaken over the years. I think the move into Crimea is part of a longer range plan by Russia. That plan is energy. They just want to confirm that the rest of the world is feckless. As the Arctic becomes more exposed due to vanishing ice, I see the Russians making swift and decisive moves there to claim large swaths of territory which they can use to drill for oil and sell to the world which is in need. Unstability keeps prices high

I agree the Artic is in play and Canada/US will have something to say about that.
Territorial claims in the Arctic - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Ponzio]

"The acting defence minister said the country had only 6,000 combat-ready infantry compared with more than 200,000 Russian troops on its eastern borders."
Ukraine parliament delivers ultimatum to Crimea over referendum | World news | theguardian.com

 

[Chu Gai]

Russia, which doesn't even recognize the Ukranian gov't because it was a coup, and has plenty of troops in Crimea, could give two sh!ts.

 

[haraldo]

Here is what I believe is old fashioned soviet-style methods at the artificial border
Masked Russians seized our gear: Norway journos - The Local

 

[Chu Gai]

Any reason those couldn't have been uploaded?

 

[haraldo]

Yhaaa

Well done guys

Ukrainian gas oligarch Firtash arrested in Vienna on FBI warrant

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/03/13/us-ukraine-austria-firtash-idUSBREA2C14V20140313

From what I understand this guy is so important to criminals. black economy and putler, that the arrest may change the face of what's happening !
He's also very close to putler
Anyways, FBI vs The rest of the world: 1 - 0
(well Austria police did some things too)
Right now I love the FBI !!!!!

I wonder what Obama and Yatsenuk was discussing yesterday

 

[Chu Gai]

Well done guys

Ukrainian gas oligarch Firtash arrested in Vienna on FBI warrant

Ukrainian gas oligarch Firtash arrested in Vienna on FBI warrant | Reuters

From what I understand this guy is so important to criminals. black economy and putler, that the arrest may change the face of what's happening !
He's also very close to putler
Anyways, FBI vs The rest of the world: 1 - 0
(well Austria police did some things too)
Right now I love the FBI !!!!!

I wonder what Obama and Yatsenuk was discussing yesterday

Probably seeing if the 1Billion in aid should be delivered in unmarked bags of $100 bills like Karsi is getting in Afghanistan.

 

[haraldo]

Probably seeing if the 1Billion in aid should be delivered in unmarked bags of $100 bills like Karsi is getting in Afghanistan.

I hope they're trying to fight this now..... but I'm not sure how it will work.....