How the Political parties are changing and Trump.

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Dal1as

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Hello boys and girls. I'm fairly new to this board although I've been around AVS for awhile as Da1las. In another thread this was brought up so I figured I'd make a thread and hope we could have some civil discussion. I would also like people to maybe give a quick shout out about who they and how that possibly shaped or conditioned their ideology.

Myself, I'm 50. Have worked for DOD and served this country for 32 years. As a young man I was your typical carefree liberal/libertarian's type. I grew up watching National Geographic, jacque cousteau, and the like. Wanted to save the world. Soon after being stationed in California I began getting involved in some environmental groups and was shocked at their lies and outright deception. I was crushed so began to research everything myself and never take anyones word for anything. I still love the environment and am socially liberal but am much wiser how I see things. I currently consider myself Independent but due to circumstances vote Republican as I do not see the current Democrat party as a viable alternative. Hell I don't like the old school Republicans either.

So how have the political parties changed? To keep this short I'm only going to go back to the Clinton days when Democrats begin working closer to big money and business. Republicans had a huge foothold at the time being considered big business fat cats and pandering for the Religious vote. They really haven't changed much. Democrats have. Since the Clinton days the Democrat party has been bought and sold to big business. They are now the party of big money, big tech, big pharma, with old school Republicans clinging to fringe business and energy/oil. Another huge issue is the influence and money from China. Both parties are guilty of this. If anyone knows about K street and lobbying in D.C. it has gotten out of hand along with all our established overlord politicians. We really need to Flush the system.

So we now have new influence in both parties.

With the Democrats you have a combination. You have the new Socialists. Then the Social Justice movement which has Hollywood and the cancel culture behind it. In charge you still have the Big money Democrats though. The relationship only works because they have an enemy.

On the right there have always been the Liberterians who sort of drift in and out depending on the circumstances. You have the old school Republican fat cats and their church people. The emerging group is newer but has been around in the background for awhile. The America 1st group. Patriots, military Vets, and people who are tired of this country being sh1t on.

It's obvious where Trump comes in. He used the America 1st platform to win the Presidency and probably forever changed the Republican party.

To be honest I'm not one to like someone such as Trump. Queens swarmy embellishing businessman. No thanks. I'd rather commit suicide than vote for someone like Hillery Clinton though so I held my nose and actually liked some of the message. He's an asshole but he did try to make America great, did what he said he would, even though he got constant friction from both parties, the media, business, big tech, etc. and other countries like China took advantage of that.

In 2022 I believe Republicans will take the House and Senate with many new America 1st Republicans taking office. I do not see any good news for Democrats as Biden is failing badly in policy and cognisense. There best hope is that they have the Mainstream media and big tech on their side and will outspend Republicans again.

2024 could go two ways, the 2 Republican groups could turn on each other and self destruct any chance of winning, or they form a mutual truce and win the presidency which will likely spell the end of the old Republican party. Democrats will always have a chance though having the media and big tech in their pocket plus they are slick. They will cheat. Ballot harvesting anyone. If they lose badly in 2022 we may see the party split.

Will be an interesting few years. Just my take.
 
John Parks

John Parks

Audioholic Samurai
Ooh - this should be good! I'll get the popcorn...
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We should make this a drinking game - take a drink every time you see:
- "drumpf"
- "orange"
- "racist"
- "white guy"
- "January 6"
- "insurrection" (my personal fav)
- "faux news"
Two drinks for name calling, three for personal insults, four for the homophobic slur (I got one of those last year, something about fellating Trump and Putin - it was awesome!).

I don't think we should be driving after this...

And... go!
 
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Dal1as

Junior Audioholic
Ooh - this should be good! I'll get the popcorn...
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We should make this a drinking game - take a drink every time you see:
- "drumpf"
- "orange"
- "racist"
- "white guy"
- "January 6"
- "insurrection" (my personal fav)
- "faux news"
Two drinks for name calling, three for personal insults, four for the homophobic slur (I got one of those last year, something about fellating Trump and Putin - it was awesome!).

I don't think we should be driving after this...

And... go!
lol, yeah. I expect this could get interesting. I need a beer. It's my Friday and I work nights.
 
Mikado463

Mikado463

Audioholic Spartan
As I see it the further you get from center(left or right) the more you myopic you become in your vision.
 
WookieGR

WookieGR

Full Audioholic
All I've seen the past several years is Republicans spreading fear and lies in order to gain power with no regard for building respect or dignity in the process. To such extremes of complete insanity. Jewish Space lasers, pizza shops as a front for child trafficking, QAnon... These people are all insane.

Not once have I seen any Republican leader bring Bills to the floor or proposals that were designed to benefit all Americans equally, our environment or anyone outside of the 1%. The only time anything new agenda wise is brought to forefront, Republican's always vote no. This is how you prevent evolution, change, growth, etc... it's against the core ideology of what conservatives are. They reject change. Trump brought them the old ways of thinking. Prejudice, hate, bigotry, embraces all the hoaxes and propaganda they're fed from Fox News every day. And coal... glorious coal.

The era of Trump also brought us the "metoo movement" and "cancel culture" because people felt powerless due to the corrupt nature of politics and the cheating leaders and turned on everyone else around them by abusing all forms of social media. Under a Republican regime we got "wall building" in more ways than the literal. Conservatives built walls around the poverty stricken, they built walls around transgendered people, they built walls around people needing affordable healthcare, they built walls around peoples basic human rights.

Now we have special flags other than the actual American flag because it's not possible for a Fox News viewer to say Black Lives Matter, they have to instead drape Blue Lives Matter flags all over their houses, yards and pick up trucks like a bunch of crackpots. It's literally more about saying F*** the blacks than it is protecting good cops from injuries in the line of duty.

The Era of Trump has completely destroyed democracy because now, when more people actually get out and vote against Fascism, the 1% claim it's all rigged... the votes are fake... etc. When they can't prove that, they move on to claim some other conspiracy theory. Trump lost more votes through recounts, he lost several times over gaining Biden more votes because Trump is such a fool paying millions to have recounts. His money did not buy him re-election. Storming the Capitol in a coup against the country still did not earn him re-election. He lost. period. It's all about redirection and misinformation with them. Telling the truth and standing up for all Americans, the constitution and Democracy get's you blacklisted as a Republican. It's all about your loyalty and affiliation than it is about your morals and obligations under oath.

Republicans can't even go a day without going full snowflake over having to wear a mask or getting vaccinated. It's Ok to protest with "my body my right" but when a woman wants that same thing outside the Arian race they are threated with jail time.

Democrats don't help these problems either. They shoehorn LBGTQ, Black Lives Matter, Cancel Culture, political correctness messaging into and onto every single thing. Maybe we can all just go a day without having to watch two guys making out on TV or in a movie or lesbian couples in TV ads. Trying to normalize non traditional relationships will be met with harsh retaliations from the right. Having to see HE/HIM , THEY/THEM everywhere you turn is more about pissing off the other party than it is you needing to either publicly identify yourself online or reject how your parents made you. Personally, I don't see people ever coming to their senses because America's equilibrium is way out of whack. Both sides are in extreme mode, like the wrong sides of magnets pushing against each other. Conservative propaganda media is largely to blame for a lot of it, resistance to the changing climate of more people wanting to be heard is part of it, manipulating the public with fear and misinformation to gain power and money is part of it all. I will be long dead before conservatives and liberals can sit in a room together and speak intellectually. The best that can happen is the two sides get tired of their own bullshit and give up.
 
John Parks

John Parks

Audioholic Samurai
hey John, to go along with your drinking game here are a few good ones ..............

Ha! That's a clever take! I happen to carry an AR on me everywhere I go. Of course, it is actually an assault rutabaga, but an AR all the same...
 
Epsonfan

Epsonfan

Full Audioholic
Typical MSDNC talking points as usual . Get out of your moms basement Wookie.
 
highfigh

highfigh

Seriously, I have no life.
Ha! That's a clever take! I happen to carry an AR on me everywhere I go. Of course, it is actually an assault rutabaga, but an AR all the same...
Does that AR start to smell when it has been left in a hot car?

Asking for a friend.
 
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Dal1as

Junior Audioholic
Well there you have it. Banned from the Coronavirus thread because "I thought differently" and am not in lockstep with the Covid cult. I was respectful to those who were to me and even created a seperate thread for the politics we began discussing. Even though the thread has politics all through it and those on "their side" are able to say and do anything and now lie about me and ask for my posts to be deleted.


This is how fascism works.

Y'all enjoy the circle jerk. I'm done here.
 
John Parks

John Parks

Audioholic Samurai
I've posted this little guy in a many a thread here:
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Nobody seems to have gotten the joke (hint: it's the "mascot" for the punk band Circle Jerks).
 
John Parks

John Parks

Audioholic Samurai
Does that AR start to smell when it has been left in a hot car?

Asking for a friend.
Well... I don't leave it in my car as I do carry it on my person. I won't say where I carry it, but after a week, I would imagine the aromas similar. :oops:
 
Trell

Trell

Audioholic Spartan
Well there you have it. Banned from the Coronavirus thread because "I thought differently" and am not in lockstep with the Covid cult. I was respectful to those who were to me and even created a seperate thread for the politics we began discussing. Even though the thread has politics all through it and those on "their side" are able to say and do anything and now lie about me and ask for my posts to be deleted.


This is how fascism works.

Y'all enjoy the circle jerk. I'm done here.
 
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Dal1as

Junior Audioholic
Go_Nad's post in the Coronavirus thread in response to me talking about the non peer reviewed studies all being taken as gold and factual science. I had not said one thing political in that thread yet he's allowed to goad me on like that and I get banned? :confused:

Ahhh! It's becoming all too clear.
1) Anti-vaxx
2) Insurrection apologist
3) Climate change denier
4) Antifa/BLM conspiracist

It's like you're trying to conform with a certain stereotype.
 
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Dal1as

Junior Audioholic
Kvn_walkr's post in the Coronavirus thread where he takes my quote from another political thread and posts it there to attack me? Yet I got banned?

 
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Dal1as

Junior Audioholic
Another political attack on me in the Coronavirus thread yet I get banned from the thread for having a quick political discussion with 1 poster. Jeepers had a good point and Flame Wars are allowed here so I'm allowed to say the MOD who banned me from that thread is a fascist. Now he'll probably prove me right.

 
lovinthehd

lovinthehd

Audioholic Jedi
Only one with anything reasonable to say so far is wookie. Dallas, you got any audio chops or only brought your political idiocy to the forum?
Well there you have it. Banned from the Coronavirus thread because "I thought differently" and am not in lockstep with the Covid cult. I was respectful to those who were to me and even created a seperate thread for the politics we began discussing. Even though the thread has politics all through it and those on "their side" are able to say and do anything and now lie about me and ask for my posts to be deleted.


This is how fascism works.

Y'all enjoy the circle jerk. I'm done here.
I bet you know all about circle jerks with your political beliefs. Look in the mirror for the fascism....or at your political pals.
 
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