Faux News troubles

[MaxInValrico]

With the pro/con arguments WRT Fox, CNN and some others, what defines 'legitimate news organization'?

The Onion- 'America's Finest News Source'.

The Onion is ALL satire.

 

[SithZedi]

Forgot TikTok for the younger crowd.

 

[Dude#1279435]

With the pro/con arguments WRT Fox, CNN and some others, what defines 'legitimate news organization'?

The Onion- 'America's Finest News Source'.

Sesame Street > Tucker

 

[Dude#1279435]

2014 Pew
Media Sources: Distinct Favorites Emerge on the Left and Right | Pew Research Center

ps. they had a 2020 report that I thought I posted but I cannot find it

OK, this may be it
2020 PEW
Americans’ main sources for political news vary by party and age | Pew Research Center

Young and watch leftist news and more involved in politics; older and more conservative and less active in politics? Just a guess.

 

[highfigh]

Sesame Street > Tucker

I can't stand that guy- he sounds like a little kid. He and ol' what'shisface (Glenn Beck- had to look it up) on The Blaze should have a debate- I think it would result in a slap fight. Can't stand hearing their voices. Greg Gutfeld is annoying, too.

 

[highfigh]

Young and watch leftist news and more involved in politics; older and more conservative and less active in politics? Just a guess.

Older people are generally tired of the bullshyte they see and if you think about it, what can YOU or any single person do to influence the way things are going? Unless you or that 'any one person' does something that's extreme, the answer is "Damned little". Sure, people can do a lot as a group, but that 'lot' that's happening is causing a helluva lot of damage.

We used to have a much more civil society. We didn't have random violence and killing, we didn't have people dying in drive-by shootings and widespread theft of cars by 11-17 year olds, we didn't have people telling us that we're terrible people when they don't know an effing thing about us. We didn't have Congress looking for ways to piss away our money, we didn't have a POTUS who may/may not see that inflation is at a 40 year high and telling us that everything is fine.

Older people may not be as active in politics because after a life of trying to get by, they just don't have the energy. Politicians are a great example of the Law Of Conservation Of Energy. They sit there and yammer about how the other side is a bunch of deplorables, then do terrible things of their own. The other side is just as bad- they're all out of touch with the way of life on the outside and they make rules to enrich themselves that we can never hope for. Younger people are fresh out of schools where the teachers TELL them how things should be and how people should act, when the latter is a job for parents. Even in college courses that have nothing to do with politics and activism, students are hearing this crap from their teachers and professors. High schools are letting 73% of the kids graduate, even though the results show 6% math proficiency and 9% reading proficiency (real example- let me know if you want me to show the name of the school). If someone can't see that teaching has gone off the rails and our education system is failing, they need to look for this- it's public information.

If I could go back in time, I would make sure to have a list of what should and shouldn't happen in their future.

 

[SithZedi]

Well put. From yesterday, an example of what our education system produces at the TOP of the chain. This is the Yale law school. These students will become judges, lawyers, & politicians and will be running the country. Undergrad is worse.

Police called after protesters close down Yale Law FREE SPEECH debate

The students screamed profanities at Kristen Waggoner, including one who threatened they would 'literally fight you, b***h'. Others chanted 'protect trans kids' and 'shame, shame'.

www.dailymail.co.uk

If I could go back in time it would be to my youth in the mid 60s. Most my age were in agreement that power was corrupting, too concentrated and should be fought. People should be free to live their lives the way they wanted, not the way their parents wanted them to live. I can take responsibility for my own actions dad. Tolerance for others opinions, speech, and religion. The establishment should always be questioned....on and on.

Then they took power and they became the establishment and they forgot the mid 60s. I have some friends from that time still. Many disappeared into the San Fran scene in the late 60s. It's luck to have good friends at all and more so to have them for that long. Sometimes, I point the above out to them and tell them their younger selves would hate them now. They don't get crazy angry(well some) since we go back that long. They just shake their heads and blush and change the subject.

 

[Mikado463]

the percentage of pathetic parenting has definitely increased ……….

 

[Dude#1279435]

Older people are generally tired of the bullshyte they see and if you think about it, what can YOU or any single person do to influence the way things are going? Unless you or that 'any one person' does something that's extreme, the answer is "Damned little". Sure, people can do a lot as a group, but that 'lot' that's happening is causing a helluva lot of damage.

I imagine attending your local city council meeting.

We used to have a much more civil society. We didn't have random violence and killing, we didn't have people dying in drive-by shootings and widespread theft of cars by 11-17 year olds, we didn't have people telling us that we're terrible people when they don't know an effing thing about us. We didn't have Congress looking for ways to piss away our money, we didn't have a POTUS who may/may not see that inflation is at a 40 year high and telling us that everything is fine.

Since Columbine shootings have been a reoccurrence but not a dictator of the overall health of society. If anything we've become desensitized to it. I'm not aware of anyone telling me anyway that I'm a terrible person. Where's your evidence? Joe is poop.

Older people may not be as active in politics because after a life of trying to get by, they just don't have the energy. Politicians are a great example of the Law Of Conservation Of Energy. They sit there and yammer about how the other side is a bunch of deplorables, then do terrible things of their own. The other side is just as bad- they're all out of touch with the way of life on the outside and they make rules to enrich themselves that we can never hope for. Younger people are fresh out of schools where the teachers TELL them how things should be and how people should act, when the latter is a job for parents. Even in college courses that have nothing to do with politics and activism, students are hearing this crap from their teachers and professors. High schools are letting 73% of the kids graduate, even though the results show 6% math proficiency and 9% reading proficiency (real example- let me know if you want me to show the name of the school). If someone can't see that teaching has gone off the rails and our education system is failing, they need to look for this- it's public information.

My point was the trend is younger people tend to be liberal, older people tend to be conservative due to experience. If that's the case, what are conservatives doing to change younger peoples minds??? Uh attending a white nationalist party with young conservatives is not the answer. It sounds good to blame the problems on teachers and our liberal school systems, but do you have any proof that's what's happening? Have the history books been altered to fit a democratic narrative? Maybe somebody over there in conservative think tank can use some investigative journalism to show this to be the case instead of just ramdomly stating it as fact. It is the conservative parents' job to be invested in their kids education and to teach them their political views. If they're not doing that well guess what? That failing is on them ultimately. High School's pass kids because they don't have any choice. If more kids fail, the entire system gets clogged with too many students. Here's the criteria. It's up to you what you do with it. Now how invested/creative teacher's are in with learning is another matter. What's in the criteria etc is another. But you need a little more background to go on.

 

[SithZedi]

Younger people tend to be left wing because that's the current curriculum served up by the schools. I did not want to believe it at first but watching my kids go through the system in the last 20 years was an education in itself.
The intolerance of opinions they disagree with is rampant.

Ever wondered why comedians don't do shows at schools anymore? That alone should be extremely alarming to anyone who grew up in prior decades. If a conservative speaker, free market economist, or a comedian show up at a school they are immediate protests. The evidence is there if you want to see it.

Correct to say that it is the parent's fault in the past. I live in a very blue area. Fellow parents I speak to have had their awareness level adjusted from watching their children's teachers & classroom instruction during the COVID lockdowns.

You might/will disagree with all the above, but no matter. It will be a large factor in November. The Virginia Election was prologue.

 

[highfigh]

Well put. From yesterday, an example of what our education system produces at the TOP of the chain. This is the Yale law school. These students will become judges, lawyers, & politicians and will be running the country. Undergrad is worse.

Police called after protesters close down Yale Law FREE SPEECH debate

The students screamed profanities at Kristen Waggoner, including one who threatened they would 'literally fight you, b***h'. Others chanted 'protect trans kids' and 'shame, shame'.

www.dailymail.co.uk

If I could go back in time it would be to my youth in the mid 60s. Most my age were in agreement that power was corrupting, too concentrated and should be fought. People should be free to live their lives the way they wanted, not the way their parents wanted them to live. I can take responsibility for my own actions dad. Tolerance for others opinions, speech, and religion. The establishment should always be questioned....on and on.

Then they took power and they became the establishment and they forgot the mid 60s. I have some friends from that time still. Many disappeared into the San Fran scene in the late 60s. It's luck to have good friends at all and more so to have them for that long. Sometimes, I point the above out to them and tell them their younger selves would hate them now. They don't get crazy angry(well some) since we go back that long. They just shake their heads and blush and change the subject.

I remember seeing a lot of "Question Authority", Question Everything", "Down With The Establishment!" and "Blind Faith Will Get You Killed". Now, the college students from that time are in our government and they ARE 'down with the establishment'.

I have known most of my friends for 30 years or more. I don't discuss politics with my customers because it's just a bad idea as a business owner but I have been surprised by some of the wives being conservative.

 

[Dude#1279435]

The evidence is there if you want to see it.

But your suppose to provide it. You're making the claim. Tell of the examples of the stories your kids came home with. What they're teaching in social/history studies. Because Yale students are protesting something stupid, how does that reflect the rest of America too? The South too? Is it that they're not promoting a positive message for America?

Every once in a blue moon I hear it on Fox. They don't believe in capitalism! Capitalism vs socialism; big gov't vs small gov't; America First military. Is maybe this some of the problem. They don't articulate those differences? How do you reach the other side with Tucker, Hannity, Ingraham, Prager, Shapiro, Gaetz, MTG, Boebert, etc taking up the airwaves as your reps for a conservative America? C-PAC attendees. Real winners there for America etc.

Edit: It like the Trump library idea of we should be teaching our kids to love America. It's a great idea, but wrong messenger because a lot of people do not have a whole lotta regard for the man. That's kind of my general feeling with some of the reps in conservative media.

 

[SithZedi]

Use DuckDuckGo and type in "student protests over speakers".
After spending some time looking through examples:

Ask yourself what is the current product the education system produces and how does it get that way?

Or, let's try it from another angle. This is from 2015! and it's only gotten worse.

10 famous comedians on how political correctness is killing comedy: "We are addicted to the rush of being offended"

Jerry Seinfeld's not the only stand-up who thinks so

www.salon.com

What are your thoughts on why comedians don't do campus shows anymore?

 

[Dude#1279435]

Not a big fan of Dave Rubin, and him posting that he and his husband are having surrogates is not the wisest decision given the Christian Right. However, I do feel bad for him. If I were those people I'd have just shut my pie hole and agree to disagree because in the end whether gay or gay parent, it's a vote for red. No, some of the vitriol they go after with him with is sad really. Jeez, according to Sam even Tucker and Ingraham commented on it during their shows. Fucking people.
Edit: apparently Shapiro declined to attend his wedding. Yanno fuckers, just take the red vote.
Edit 2: according to Sam, Shapiro declined on camera.

 

[SithZedi]

Its their business if they want to have kids and how people react to it is their business. That's the thing about free speech, it exposes who people really are.

 

[GO-NAD!]

It's like they've completely given up even trying now.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1694756884790521988

 

[Trell]

It's like they've completely given up even trying now.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1694756884790521988

Sure they are trying! See that word "DEMOCRACY" in the background of Faux News first "debate"?

 

[mtrycrafts]

Well, FOX may be on the chopping block from what I am hearing and reading:

"A Fox TV broadcast station license renewal is facing an uncommon level of scrutiny at the Federal Communications Commission, with the FCC taking the rare step of allowing broader public input on a petition to deny the station's renewal application."

 

[Dude#1279435]

Well, FOX may be on the chopping block from what I am hearing and reading:

"A Fox TV broadcast station license renewal is facing an uncommon level of scrutiny at the Federal Communications Commission, with the FCC taking the rare step of allowing broader public input on a petition to deny the station's renewal application."

I'm not sure that's a good thing. It's true I can't stand Hannity, Ingraham, and Levine. And they are in the process of being sued for $2.7 billion. But does the FCC have the right to take the next step?

 

[isolar8001]

I'm not sure that's a good thing. It's true I can't stand Hannity, Ingraham, and Levine. And they are in the process of being sued for $2.7 billion. But does the FCC have the right to take the next step?

That's referring to a license for a normal commercial broadcast station. Like Fox 53 here in Pittsburgh.

Fox News itself is a cable station and does not require a license.