Dayton 18" HO Ported Build Thread

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1Randy

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It is about the same size as the picture you posted.

The one below will do the job in a smaller cabinet.
Thank you TLSGuy

The pic of My size limit I posted was around (6.8 cu/ft outer Dimentions)

....There are No 15" Drivers up to $750 that can do better than this 12" RSS315HF ?
...Isn't the Sereo Integrity SQL15" good for my size limit. ?
 
TLS Guy

TLS Guy

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Thank you TLSGuy

The pic of My size limit I posted was around (6.8 cu/ft outer Dimentions)

....There are No 15" Drivers up to $750 that can do better than this 12" RSS315HF ?
...Isn't the Sereo Integrity SQL15" good for my size limit. ?
No the Dayton is much better. That stereo integrity is a car driver. These are very different animals and have a skewed response for vehicle cab gain.

If you are serious about building a decent sub, then go ahead with the model I have attached. My data is reliable. Those graphs will tell you precisely what you can expect.
 
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1Randy

Audioholic Intern
No the Dayton is much better. That stereo integrity is a car driver. These are very different animals and have a skewed response for vehicle cab gain.

If you are serious about building a decent sub, then go ahead with the model I have attached. My data is reliable. Those graphs will tell you precisely what you can expect.
...I notices some of the t/s parameter have changed ?
 

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Verdinut

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I entirely agree with @Tlsguy and I suggest that you get a pair of RSS315 HF-4 subwoofers. Actually, several years ago I built a pair of 3-way tower speakers using these 12 inch drivers as woofers. These work pretty well and you should not be disappointed with their performance. Dayton RSS series subs are really outstanding!
 
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1Randy

Audioholic Intern
I entirely agree with @Tlsguy and I suggest that you get a pair of RSS315 HF-4 subwoofers. Actually, several years ago I built a pair of 3-way tower speakers using these 12 inch drivers as woofers. These work pretty well and you should not be disappointed with their performance. Dayton RSS series subs are really outstanding!
Mine would be for HT duty
 
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Seriously, I have no life.
This driver has a Fs of 19.5...why does Parts Express recommend an enclosure of 3cu/ft and a f3 of 27 hz ??

And what is (Vas)
Dig deeper into enclosure design- you'll need to understand other parameters on the way to the end results. There's a lot of info that creates 'deer in the headlights' reactions, at first.

Lower resonant fequency requires a very large enclosure or a very long port- think of the port as if it were a soda bottle and you're blowing across the opening and it wants to produce one note. Add water (make it shorter) and the pitch goes up, remove water (add length) and the pitch goes down- a low note requires the length and it's the same principle used in pipe organ design but there's no room in a house for a 32' or 64' pipe. The woofer in a sealed enclosure produces low frequencies if it's very large but the port is used to extend the low frequency response by tuning it (selecting the length that allows the one note to blend well with the response from the sealed enclosure).

Vas describes the compliance the resistance to movement when some force is exerted of the speaker in a specific enclosure volume- air can be compressed and a very large volume of air is very soft, a smaller volume of air offers more resistance to being compressed. In order to produce low frequencies, a speaker driver needs to move air- if it can't move much when the signal reaches it, the sound level won't be sufficient to hear it well, if at all, so the cone will need to move in & out farther (think of it as a piston). Since the cone's diameter won't increase, the only way to move more air is to increase the distance (excursion) it moves in & out.

Excursion is used in enclosure design, too.

Everything resonates at its own frequency- a speaker driver that has a high Fs isn't really suitable for low frequencies because it

 
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1Randy

Audioholic Intern
Dig deeper into enclosure design- you'll need to understand other parameters on the way to the end results. There's a lot of info that creates 'deer in the headlights' reactions, at first.

Lower resonant fequency requires a very large enclosure or a very long port- think of the port as if it were a soda bottle and you're blowing across the opening and it wants to produce one note. Add water (make it shorter) and the pitch goes up, remove water (add length) and the pitch goes down- a low note requires the length and it's the same principle used in pipe organ design but there's no room in a house for a 32' or 64' pipe. The woofer in a sealed enclosure produces low frequencies if it's very large but the port is used to extend the low frequency response by tuning it (selecting the length that allows the one note to blend well with the response from the sealed enclosure).

Vas describes the compliance the resistance to movement when some force is exerted of the speaker in a specific enclosure volume- air can be compressed and a very large volume of air is very soft, a smaller volume of air offers more resistance to being compressed. In order to produce low frequencies, a speaker driver needs to move air- if it can't move much when the signal reaches it, the sound level won't be sufficient to hear it well, if at all, so the cone will need to move in & out farther (think of it as a piston). Since the cone's diameter won't increase, the only way to move more air is to increase the distance (excursion) it moves in & out.

Excursion is used in enclosure design, too.

Everything resonates at its own frequency- a speaker driver that has a high Fs isn't really suitable for low frequencies because it

Thank you for that link.

The more I read, the more I realize how complex sound is.
 

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