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The only thing I can think of is the upcoming Emotiva HDMI 1.3 Pre-pro. It's supposed to have the next gen codec for $699. For about $500 more, you can get a used Rotel 5 channel Amp. That'll bring you closer to the $13-1400 mark. But I agree, the Denon is a good choice here. Also...

I feel sorry for that fish and all the bass and sound he has to endure.

I think the 3808 sells for around $1100 if you can find a good deal. The 4308 at $1400 should be about right.

I'm selling my HD DVDs. I know I'm just going to end up buying them again on Blu-ray. I'm not keeping my 360 add on for a few movies. I didn't get too invested in either formats. I have about 4 HD DVDs and 8 Blu-rays.

There is NO WAY IN HELL I would pay retail $1000CDN for this sub. For that money, I might as well get the PB12 Plus - which I don't think anyone will argue, is better than the 5000r in every way. But I didn't spend $1000. I don't want to spend $1000. I have a budget of $600 and I got the sub...

Ok ok. Let's not turn this into which company has ethics and what not. The fact of the matter is, in Canada, we don't have many - heck ANY online stores to order Speakers and subs from. The only one is Sonic Boom/ Electronics For Less, which is not too far away. So realistically, and...

I don't have a truck. It won't fit in my car. I was able to borrow my neighbour's van for 5 min to get the Velo (I live across the street from Future Shop). I can't ask him to let me do a 100km trip even if I pay for gas. In the end I may just keep it. I know I'm probably only getting...

I'm going to trek down to Sonic boom and have a listen. I'm not going to take my Velo there though. It's just too heavy. I'll have a good idea still. I really didn't want to spend too much on a sub as I spent way more than I had planned to already with my setup. I'm going to listen...

Awesome! What's the smaller downfiring sub, the PB12 NSD?

Where are you seeing SVS subs at Electronics for less?

Yea, but will the PB10 shake the floors like the 5000r in my room? The Energy S10.3 can't do it. I can barely feel any tactile effects from it. So I'm wondering exactly how much of an improvement am I going to get out of it over the Energy. I'd prefer to buy in Canada. WIth shipping from...

I think what I'm going to do is see if there's a sale on the S10 sometime in the next 2 weeks, or I'll just buy one to test it with mine and then return it. If I don't think it can compete with the Velo in the 25hz+ range, then I won't keep it. It really sucks that I can't go low 20s with the...

So any advice on what I should do? My budget is $600CDN max for a sub. I already own an Energy S10.3. I bought the 5000r for $450 and still have the return window at Futrue Shop.

I wasn't thinking of matching 2 different subs. My options are: a) Keep the Velo 5000 b) Keep my Energy S10.3 and add another when they go on sale at Future Shop c) Get a SVS PB10 So far, I really have no complaints about the Velo 5000r. I love the fact that I can place it where I...

14x11x11 is my room size. The reason I got the 5000r was so I could finance some of it ny selling the Energy S10.

I don't have a big budget. In fact the reason I got the 5000r was because it was on sale for a ridiculous price. I also can't really afford 2 PB10s. Would it be wise to stick with the 15" sub or perhaps wait for a sale on a Energy s10.3 so I would have 2 of them. I find that the quality...

LOTR set like the Blade Runner? 2 50gb discs for EE, 1 50gb for Theatrical and 1 25gb for extras? Here's hoping. Can't wait!

Well, I know the PB10 can get down to 18hz with good SPL. The Velo 5000r is rated at 23hz, so I don't know what kind of spl it maintains if it gets down to the teens. It's also a slot loaded sub, so I don't know if it's capped at a certain tuning point...

Don't know about hardware prices, but I do expect more deals for software. Remember, the Blu-ray plan is to replace DVDs. That can't happen unless there are incentives for people to go out and buy a player. There will still be deals and promos.

Good god, now I'm confused. So far, I can't complain about the Velo. But I'm seriously considering the PB10 if it can sound better and deeper in my room.