16 Genesis SACD's + bonus DVD(s) starting Mar 7

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t75jjs1

Audiophyte
Genesis 1976-1982 NTSC imp box @ CD Universe f/$150

[Found this thread via Google. First post.]
Spent the better part of the last few hours surfing for a good price on the NTSC/import SACD+DVD box after using the link in this thread to hmv.jp and finding it sold out there.
FYI: I found it for $150.09 @ CD Universe:
http://www.cduniverse.com/productinfo.asp?pid=7413901&BAB=E
(Says it's the EMI Intl import NTSC/SACDhybrid version (catalog# 388060) with a street date of 04/17.)
Shipping is $6.99, but you can then deduct $10 if you haven't used Google Checkout at CD Universe before, making the final total $147.08. (Their Google discount is limited to 2 per person, but any uses of Google Checkout at other sites doesn't count against you at CD Universe.)
 
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genesis471

Audioholic
[Found this thread via Google. First post.]
Spent the better part of the last few hours surfing for a good price on the NTSC/import SACD+DVD box after using the link in this thread to hmv.jp and finding it sold out there.
FYI: I found it for $150.09 @ CD Universe:
http://www.cduniverse.com/productinfo.asp?pid=7413901&BAB=E
(Says it's the EMI Intl import NTSC/SACDhybrid version (catalog# 388060) with a street date of 04/17.)
Shipping is $6.99, but you can then deduct $10 if you haven't used Google Checkout at CD Universe before, making the final total $147.08. (Their Google discount is limited to 2 per person, but any uses of Google Checkout at other sites doesn't count against you at CD Universe.)
I'm pretty sure that people that ordered from CD Universe, have already started to receive their orders.

On another note, I GOT MINE TODAY!!:D How it got here from England to Seattle, WA from friday to monday is some pretty slick shipping! (I know, airplane dummy).

What a beautiful set! 12 discs, 6 of which are SACD/CD's, and the other 6 DVD extras. I will try to take pictures and post them here later when my ears can't take it anymore!!

Stay tuned!

Mike
 
supervij

supervij

Audioholic General
Mike, ya lucky . . . well, fill in your own expletive!

CD Universe, eh? I'll have to remember that for the next box set. As an audioholic, I look forward to reading your impressions of the surround mix, and the sound in general.

have fun with it,
supervij
 
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genesis471

Audioholic
Okay, don't have much time this morning to review my late night of listening and watching last night.

I listened to A Trick of the Tail, and Wind & Wuthering, and a few tracks from the 'B' sides extra disc. First I must say that I have never heard the vocals be so clear that I thought Phil Collins was singing in my house! And the drums, wow! Track 1 Dance on a Volcano is incredible, track 2 Entangled (acoustic songs for those of you who don't know) is crystal clear, and perfect use of the rear speakers for the Mellotron and one acoutic guitar out of the 3 I think they used on this song... that song ends and I am anticipating Squonk kicking in; it does, and literally startles me with the drums and guitars crashing in from all speakers.. and guys I mean, it made me jump a little! Now I am beginning to think I finally have an SACD that stands up to Dark Side of the Moon! And I have a lot of them. The album in it's entirety is all new to me from a listening perspective because of how clear the vocals are, and there are sounds that I never could here before because they were lost in the mix. This album, as well as most of there 70's albums were always some what rushed because of the expense involved. Nick Davis has been able to spend the last few years perfecting what Genesis intended in the first place, but couldn't because of cost limitations.
Wind & Wuthering. Track 1 Eleventh Earl of Mar - far from one of my favorite tracks... but it just climbed the ladder on that list! First of all, the beginning of the track fills the room with massive singing guitars and a subtle bass track, it is beautiful! Again, amazingly clear vocals. On both these albums so far, I am able to clearly understand the vocals that are being sung by PC, as before they were a little muddy sounding. Not anymore! Next track One for the Vine, excellent effects with the chords, done well in surround and sounds beautiful. Listening to this album can really let you know how professional, or I should say you can easily identify these musicians as perfectionists, even if you don't like their music. Wind & Wuthering is brilliant sounding, all the way thru the amazing Afterglow which raps up the album.
The rest tonight I hope. My ears couldn't take anymore last night!
A quick note on the video extras - I watched all of the interviews on each disc, they are really good and offer some good insight of to what they were thinking during the different periods. As far as the film footage, they used somewhat inferior bootlegs on Trick & Wind.. so don't expect much there. There is a 3 dates with Genesis on I think the And then there were three.. extra disc. Though the film quality is not perfect, I found it to be a very interesting documentry put out by I believe the bbc. The duke video disc has the one hour concert from the Duke tour, nice to see but I am hoping that this concert gets restored and they issue the complete show some day, remixed in surround and all. The music videos are a nice addition to each of these respectively as well. All in all, don't expect a ton with the video portion or you will be somewhat disappointed. I bought these first for the sound, which I consider an A+.
I bet there are going to be fair weather fans that will buy these for the simple reason that they are SACD's, and will be pleasantly surprised at what they've been missing all of these years. Genesis after all, has always considered themselves an albums group.. most just know them for there very few radio songs, which doesn't even scratch the surface into their brilliant work.
 
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WeAreSurrounded

Audioholic
My order has been shipped from HMV Japan !

Thanks, Mike, for your review . WOW !!! I love both ATOTT and W&W - and when they sound even better - anticipation grows even more !
Anyway, I am double excited because my HMV Jpn order's status has changed today to "DESPATCHED" (as they call it) :D
So, I guess it's on its way and I will soon start listening with "One for the Vine" and then "Duke Travels/Duke End" - YUMMY !
 
supervij

supervij

Audioholic General
Great review, Mike; you've certainly whetted my appetite as well! My box set is "despatched" as well, but sadly, I'll be out of town over the long weekend, so I probably won't get a chance to listen to it until I come back. Sigh. Can't wait though!

I'm such a purist (read: anal retentive) -- I plan on listening to them in chronological order. :rolleyes:

cheers,
supervij
 
gene

gene

Audioholics Master Chief
Administrator
Wow Mike thanks for the review. I am ordering Trick of the Tail right now.

I really want Selling England By the Pound as well. Anyone know when that comes out?
 
gene

gene

Audioholics Master Chief
Administrator
I'm pretty sure that people that ordered from CD Universe, have already started to receive their orders.

On another note, I GOT MINE TODAY!! How it got here from England to Seattle, WA from friday to monday is some pretty slick shipping! (I know, airplane dummy).

What a beautiful set! 12 discs, 6 of which are SACD/CD's, and the other 6 DVD extras. I will try to take pictures and post them here later when my ears can't take it anymore!!

Stay tuned!
Rather than assuming this box set has every album from the era specified, can you please list the albums you actually received? Are they all SACD 5.1? Thanks.
 
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genesis471

Audioholic
Wow Mike thanks for the review. I am ordering Trick of the Tail right now.

I really want Selling England By the Pound as well. Anyone know when that comes out?
Fall is what my understanding is. Currently we get the first release, 76-81. June/July we are suppose to get 83-97, and fall (Oct/Nov?) we are suppose to get the Gabriel years, 70-74, so Trespass, Nursery Cryme, Foxtrot (I can't wait to hear Watchers of the Sky's ooh those mellotrons!!), Selling England by the Pound, and The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway.
 
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genesis471

Audioholic
Rather than assuming this box set has every album from the era specified, can you please list the albums you actually received? Are they all SACD 5.1? Thanks.
Gene, here is what you get in the boxset:

A Trick of the Tail
Wind & Wuthering
And Then There were Three...
Duke
Abacab.

Yes they are all SACD Hybrid discs, 5.1 yes. I will specify further:

Each album is a 2 disc set, example:

A Trick of the Tail - (1) SACD/CD all tracks SACD 5.1/CD 2.0
A Trick of the Tail - (1) DVD all tracks in DTS/DD, as well as Video extras.

Same goes for each album. Then, there is the bonus discs which are in the 45 page booklet:

(1) All b-sides from the above albums remixed also in 5.1 SACD/CD 2.0
(1) DVD with all b-sides in DTS/DD 5.1 as well. Video extras as well.

All DVD discs include promo videos where applicable for each album.

So I expect a Trick review after you are blown away!

Mike
 
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genesis471

Audioholic
Alright guys I expect reviews when you get your albums! Gene I'm certain yours will be upfront on the main Audioholics page, just a guess.

Unfortunately, due to my lovely 12p-11 daily work schedule, I won't beable to do some serious listening until next monday. I have my children every morning before I go to work, and can't really blast them out of the house.
I think I need to send my wife and kids on vacation haha!:rolleyes:

Mike
 
gene

gene

Audioholics Master Chief
Administrator
So I expect a Trick review after you are blown away!
Cool thanks for all the info.

I have an interview scheduled with Daryl Streumer next week right before he goes to Switzerland to rehearsh with Genesis. I will see if he can get me a box set that I can review otherwise I will break down and at least buy Trick of the Tail.

Daryl sent me his latest CD due out at the end of April called "Go". Its pretty darn good and I did a little write up on it in my Sennheiser HD 600 headphone review.
 
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genesis471

Audioholic
Daryl Stuermer you looking devil!!;) He is a really nice person. I have heard some of his interviews with Milwaukee radio stations, and he is first class. Great musician, probably highly underated.

If he can't get you a box set, let me know. I may know someone who can lend you one for review.

Mike
 
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genesis471

Audioholic
Okay, I finally got time to listen to And The There Were Three... in full. So after being extremely happy with the sound on the first two, this one doesn't disappoint. Dispite imo, three tracks that are a low-point to the album, the album is excellent, and sounds fantastic. This is an album that I really haven't played much as it has always sounded somewhat dull. Live performances of songs from this album have done them justice though. But now, I feel as if it is a whole new album - thought I'm obviously familiar with the music. That make s it really worth listening to again and again.
Now onto Duke, hopefully friday night!

Anyone else got these yet? I know HMV had some delays, and others?

Mike
 
supervij

supervij

Audioholic General
Argh! Mike, you and all the others on the G forum are killing me with your glowing reviews! KILLING me, I tells ya!

Is it obvious that I still haven't received it? Sniff sniff. As of eight o'clock this morning, its status is "Processing at delivery Post Office" with no scheduled delivery date.

still waiting,
supervij
 
Warpdrv

Warpdrv

Audioholic Ninja
Daryl Steurmer, funny... I live in Milwaukee, just north of there now...

When I was in High School, my Girlfriend used to babysit for them and I would go over to his house, and check out all his equipment... simply amazing...

Im sure he still has a house in Whitefish Bay where I grew up, and he lived at the time... He is in this area all the time and I have seen his local concerts countless times... great, somewhat softspoken guy...

I have always had a great appreciation for the man, and I grew to love all of genesis music just before and during the times I had met him personally...
Kinda hard to believe I was right there... Can't wait to check out a SACD for the first time... never owned one.. and I will be happy to say it will be GENESIS !!!!!!

Patrick
 
dobyblue

dobyblue

Senior Audioholic
Wow, all I can say is I'm incredibly happy with the first genesis box set. They have truly done a stellar job with the 5.1 field and overall each album is as clean as a whistle.
Rutherford's "Your Own Special Way" is not the kind of song you'd think should be cranked, but damn is it goose-bump inducing stuff, as is Squonk.
Listening to Duke was ethereal. The transition from Behind The Lines to Duchess gave me one of the biggest **** eating grins I've had in some time.

An amazong box set, I can't wait for the others.

Thanks God for HMV Japan and I appreciate being pointed in that direction from vij. I will definitely order from them again - the overall price despite being taxed duty of $23 from Canada Customs still was over CDN$150 cheaper than getting it from Amazon Canada.
 
supervij

supervij

Audioholic General
dobyblue, you got taxed from Canada Customs? That's strange, I didn't get taxed at all. The box set was waiting for me at the local post office, no additional payment mentioned. In fact, the total I paid was $142.50 Canadian, which I agree is a far cry better than amazon.ca, who list it as a whopping $318 C new and $193 C used. And THAT's for SACD/PAL, not SACD/NTSC, which is what we got. Anyway, glad to be of help, dobyblue. I'll definitely be using HMV Japan again as well for pre-ordering the upcoming box sets.

And you're right -- the surround mixes are breath-taking! As improved as Trick of the Tail and Wind & Wuthering are, I think the biggest improvement is on the extras disc. Those old B-sides never seemed very well recorded, but on the SACD, they sound so good, they deserve to be back on their respective albums!

I totally know what you mean about listening to the transition into Duchess. After I finished listening to the album, I went back and listened to that section again!

Los Endos and Blood on the Rooftops were my immediate favourites. Those two songs in hi-res surround just killed me. I can't wait for the upcoming boxes!

cheers,
supervij
 
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genesis471

Audioholic
I finally got to listen peacefully (without the kids going nutty) to Duke, and Abacab (5.1 SACD). At first I figured they weren't going to be anything spectacular because musically I couldn't imagine them in surround. You know, I was really off! They sound fantastic, much better then anticipated. I love the album Duke, and this just made it that much better. Contrary to others beliefs, I think Abacab is a great album. I not real keen on the last two tracks though.
Dodo/Lurker sounds great, and has great effects.
I think I"m going to listen to those two albums this weekend again.

On the bonus disc, I think my favorite has to be It's Yourself.. what a beauty!

On another note, what's all of the griping I hear about at the Steve Hoffman forum? Something about to much compression.. perhaps about the redbook layer, I'm not sure??

Mike
 
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