16 Genesis SACD's + bonus DVD(s) starting Mar 7

dobyblue

dobyblue

Senior Audioholic
Acoustics Sounds is now taking preorders for the PAL set-not sure if it is a box set or a collections of disks. This one is $160...

http://store.acousticsounds.com/browse_detail.cfm?title_ID=40195
Now they have the NTCS ones up as well for $159.99
http://store.acousticsounds.com/browse_detail.cfm?Title_ID=40194

Man I don't know what to do though. I got the last one with an additional two SACD's from Japan and the box set was ¥10,792

10,792.00 JPY = $90.96 USD

I'll hold off for a little, but the acousticsounds is the cheapest so far.

Anyone else find it funny that 1983-1998 is cheaper on Amazon Canada than it is on Amazon US? That's a first.
 
supervij

supervij

Audioholic General
Well, I just pre-ordered my boxset with HMV Japan. With delivery, it comes to 20,631 Yen, or just under $185 CND. A fair bit pricier than the last boxset, but I suppose they justify that saying that this box set has all the hit singles, and so is more desireable, hence more expensive.

HMV has included this boxset in on the "buy 3 imports, get 25% off" deal, by the way. And I clicked through their list, and oh man, there are sooo many albums (including a few SACDs) to pick and choose from!

I think I can still cancel the order, as Acoustic Sounds seems to have a better price. Their $160 US works out to $169 CND, so I might go with that. But if I find a couple other imports I want over at HMV Japan, it'll work out cheaper, so I suppose I'll keep looking around there. Thanks for the recco, though, dobyblue!

cheers,
supervij
 
dobyblue

dobyblue

Senior Audioholic
I can't find a listing on HMV Japan. Can you link me to it?
 
supervij

supervij

Audioholic General
http://www.hmv.co.jp/product/detail/2601433

I know it's missing some info, but I think that's it. While it doesn't include Calling All Stations in the title (or bonus discs, for that matter), it DOES say that it's 10 discs total (which is accurate), and under "other", it says, "+5DVDs, Hybrid Disc, Box Collection, Reissue". So I figure that's got to be it.

I went with the "3 CDs at 25% off" and it's only cost me (literally) a few bucks more to add a couple albums to the box set. Shiny!

cheers,
supervij
 
dobyblue

dobyblue

Senior Audioholic
http://www.hmv.co.jp/product/detail/2601433

I know it's missing some info, but I think that's it. While it doesn't include Calling All Stations in the title (or bonus discs, for that matter), it DOES say that it's 10 discs total (which is accurate), and under "other", it says, "+5DVDs, Hybrid Disc, Box Collection, Reissue". So I figure that's got to be it.

I went with the "3 CDs at 25% off" and it's only cost me (literally) a few bucks more to add a couple albums to the box set. Shiny!

cheers,
supervij
Looks cool - I will probably be adding 16 Blocks (Blu-ray) and Face/Off (Blu-ray) as they are Region A, same as North America, and feature lossless 5.1 PCM. The NA releases only have lossy audio on them.
 
dobyblue

dobyblue

Senior Audioholic
1983-1998 was supposed to ship last Tuesday wasn't it?

Anyone get theirs yet?
 
supervij

supervij

Audioholic General
Got mine today! Shipped on Thursday, received today, presumably a day late with the long weekend and all. I can't WAIT to get home and put on the Mama album! I've been looking forward to this all month!

By the by, I got nailed with border fees this time around! Argh! An extra $32 for taxes and handling fees. I ordered from HMV Japan using their multi-buy discount, so the proportion of my grand total to attribute to the new box set is a whopping $183.08. Ouch!

cheers,
supervij
 
supervij

supervij

Audioholic General
I've only listened to the Mama album and Invisible Touch so far. And so far . . . I'm kinda iffy. There was only one truly superb surround song on the Mama album, and that was "It's Gonna Get Better" -- absolutely beautiful. Every other song had something that made it a little questionable. "Mama" just didn't have any impact, both "That's All" and "Home by the Sea" had an annoying handclap or tambourine beat per four bars coming from directly behind me and nothing else. It was very distracting! And "Second Home by the Sea" had some moments when the bass just overpowered everything (but maybe that's just my room). Having said that, there were some nice moments -- SHbtS, other than the bass thing, had some really nice atmospherics and POWER! Mike's guitar solo at the end was very clear and strong. "Illegal Alien" actually sounds better in surround -- why, I don't know. But I liked it, and actually found myself singing along to it. I liked having the crowd at the end coming from the surrounds -- made it feel like it was an audience or something. And IGGB was perfect. The other songs weren't great, weren't bad, just didn't stick out to make me remember them just now.

Invisible Touch fared a bit better. "Invisible Touch" sounded like it had been DPLed for most of it, and then Tony's keyboard solo came out of the surrounds, but somewhat artificial-sounding. I dunno. "Tonight, Tonight, Tonight" started out with some great IMPACT and just got better and better. Nice atmospherics, tight bass, very nice. "Land of Confusion" thundered along such that I was dancing in my seat! Same with Domino, actually. Take note that on "Anything She Does", the song goes on a little bit longer than on the original mix -- it's only a few seconds, but I was like wha-? And my favourite track on the album, "The Brazilian" made me so happy! Good use of surrounds, but that (I don't know what to call it) fire-breathing sound that comes at the top of the last verse had zero impact. But that was made up for by some sounds I can only describe as "hoo hoo ha ha" coming from the surrounds that startled me, but in a good way! At first, I was like, what the hell is that? But very quickly, they just became this cool driving force that added to the song in a terrific way.

All in all, I liked IT a bit better than the Mama album, strictly from a surround point of view. I can't remember if Nick Davis did this with the albums from the first box set, but in these two albums, he spread Phil's lead vocals along the front three speakers. I dunno why. It doesn't make much sense -- anchor the voice in the centre, that's why it's there! And Nick tends to place ALL the effects strictly in the surrounds, rather than have them move about or come from unexpected places. It makes for sometimes predictable use of surround, but there are occasional surprises.

These two albums are LOUD, which I guess means that Nick is still heavy with the compression. I don't have a gigantic problem with it, though. I love the music so much, I can get past it.

Don't look for a huge improvement in sonic quality, though. Hugh Padgham (sp?) did such a great job on the original mixes that the sonic improvement is much less noticeable than on the previous box set.

So far . . . I like it. A lot. A whole lot. But I'm much more a hardcore Genesis freak than I am an audioholic. So take this quick review with a grain of salt. :eek:

cheers,
supervij
 
dobyblue

dobyblue

Senior Audioholic
"Tonight, Tonight, Tonight" started out with some great IMPACT and just got better and better. Nice atmospherics, tight bass, very nice. "Land of Confusion" thundered along such that I was dancing in my seat! Same with Domino, actually. Take note that on "Anything She Does", the song goes on a little bit longer than on the original mix -- it's only a few seconds, but I was like wha-? And my favourite track on the album, "The Brazilian" made me so happy! Good use of surrounds, but that (I don't know what to call it) fire-breathing sound that comes at the top of the last verse had zero impact. But that was made up for by some sounds I can only describe as "hoo hoo ha ha" coming from the surrounds that startled me, but in a good way! At first, I was like, what the hell is that? But very quickly, they just became this cool driving force that added to the song in a terrific way.

Sweetness - I can't wait to hear those tracks and Illegal Alien sounds wicked too.

Mine is on Fed Ex, should be in early next week to my friend in Buffalo who is a huge Genesis fan and huge fan of my sound system, so I expect it to be across the border in my hands pretty much the day it's delivered.

Thanks for the review!
 
H

hwkn

Junior Audioholic
I should have the these discs in a few days[ordered em from a local record store].
 
gene

gene

Audioholics Master Chief
Administrator
the link no longer works. Darn too late :(
 
supervij

supervij

Audioholic General
I read on the G forum that Amazon will add something like $200 to your order as the shipping charges or something else. So you'd still wind up paying through the nose anyway.

cheers,
supervij
 
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genesis471

Audioholic
I just ordered mine from Elusivedisc.com. $159 for the SACD box set. I am hearing that those albums sound great. I read 'shapes' sounds pretty good too.
I'll let my ears do the judging soon!:D

Mike
 
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genesis471

Audioholic
Just got it today. I have 'shapes' in and it is on Taking it all to Hard. Wow it really sounds wonderful. I am listening in 5.1 of course, but I can't turn it up because the family is asleep. I have a day off wednesday for serious listening!

So far, I'm impressed. Can't wait to hear the Invisible Touch album. Not a favorite of mine, but I hear good things about it.

Mike
 
supervij

supervij

Audioholic General
My three favourite tracks from Invisible Touch sound AMAZING on the new SACD: "Tonight, Tonight, Tonight", "Domino", and especially, "The Brazillian". Watch out for that last one -- it's got some stuff that had previously been buried that'll rip yer lungs out!

cheers,
supervij
 
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genesis471

Audioholic
Supervij,

I completely agree with you on those tracks. Tx3 was very effective in surround. Domino, one that I really never liked the studio but live it is amazing... now I have a different perspective. It is one of there many songs that a lot of the music got lost in the mix with 2 ch limitations. The Brazilian is indeed amazing!

I haven't heard the extra's disc, Calling All Stations, or We Can't Dance yet. Hopefully I can get through them today.

Mike
 
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