JD Vance and his military record

[Mikado463]

And, further reading indicates he was indeed promoted but had to serve 2 years for retirement with that rate. He decided to retire before with the last rate.

Correct, that's what I was eluding to. I guess I should have said, 'a slight embellishment of his resume', LOL !

So, do you think he retired so abruptly because he wanted to run for Congress(which he could have done and not retired) or because his unit was to be sent to Iraq in 4 months ? Whatever, I'm more interested in his governing accomplishments.

 

[Swerd]

It's called a nothing-burger, @Mikado463 . I know you're smarter than that.

He may be smarter than that, but he also accepts and repeats the GOP message-of-the-day without reading it carefully enough to understand what is actually true or false. Most of those false messages are deliberate lies that are quickly dropped if they're rapidly opposed. If not, they're repeated over & over until the lies are accepted.

The Swift Boat lie, from the 2004 presidential race. was a deliberate attempt by the Bush campaign to smear John Kerry. About 2 weeks after Bush won re-election, those responsible for the smear readily admitted that it was totally false.

Swiftboating - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Mikado463]

He may be smarter than that, but he also accepts and repeats the GOP message-of-the-day without reading it carefully enough to understand what is actually true or false. Most of those false messages are deliberate lies that are quickly dropped if they're rapidly opposed. If not, they're repeated over & over until the lies are accepted.

The Swift Boat lie, from the 2004 presidential race. was a deliberate attempt by the Bush campaign to smear John Kerry. About 2 weeks after Bush won re-election, those responsible for the smear readily admitted that it was totally false.

Swiftboating - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

That is not what I was implying and YOU should be smart enough to understand and see that ! Perhaps you and the other liberal Dem fanboys here should not have taken my reply to David Scott out of context !

 

[GO-NAD!]

Correct, that's what I was eluding to. I guess I should have said, 'a slight embellishment of his resume', LOL !

So, do you think he retired so abruptly because he wanted to run for Congress(which he could have done and not retired) or because his unit was to be sent to Iraq in 4 months ? Whatever, I'm more interested in his governing accomplishments.

Retiring after 24 years service is "abrupt"? He submitted his retirement docs a couple of months before his unit was called up to go to Iraq. He did his time and retired honourably. And, he was promoted to CSM. Where's the embellishment?

There's nothing to see here, so yes, his governing accomplishments are more important.

 

[Mikado463]

And, he was promoted to CSM. Where's the embellishment?

for the last time, I linked the CBS article which stated while he was promoted to CSM, that was not the rank he held on retirement yet on his bio it stated otherwise. We've discussed the the reasoning as to why and perhaps it was a typo / oversight on his bio ?[/quote]

There's nothing to see here, so yes, his governing accomplishments are more important.

Yay, a liberal and a conservative can finally agree !!

 

[Trell]

That is not what I was implying and YOU should be smart enough to understand and see that ! Perhaps you and the other liberal Dem fanboys here should not have take my reply to David Scott out of context !

Here's a 5 minute clip with Adam Kinzinger worth watching and perhaps you'll learn something.

>>>Former Rep. Adam Kinzinger explains to Tim Miller why Sen. JD Vance's attacks on Gov. Tim Walz and his military service are ridiculous.<<<

 

[Swerd]

Here's further info on the "Swift boating" effort by the GOP against Tim Walz. I think it's highly relevant. See below.

(CNN) – The Trump campaign’s attacks on Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz’s military record are channeling the “swift boating” campaign 20 years ago against John Kerry, which accused the 2004 Democratic presidential nominee of lying about his Vietnam service and decorations.

The common denominator in both efforts: Trump campaign co-manager Chris LaCivita.

LaCivita played a key role in the political advocacy group Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, which ran the TV ad campaign questioning Kerry’s military service. It’s a playbook that the Trump campaign appears to be re-running after Vice President Kamala Harris tapped Walz, a 24-year veteran of the Army National Guard, as her running mate …

https://www.cnn.com/2024/08/09/politics/tim-walz-service-swift-boat-attacks/index.html

 

[mtrycrafts]

He may be smarter than that, but he also accepts and repeats the GOP message-of-the-day without reading it carefully enough to understand what is actually true or false. Most of those false messages are deliberate lies that are quickly dropped if they're rapidly opposed. If not, they're repeated over & over until the lies are accepted.

The Swift Boat lie, from the 2004 presidential race. was a deliberate attempt by the Bush campaign to smear John Kerry. About 2 weeks after Bush won re-election, those responsible for the smear readily admitted that it was totally false.

Swiftboating - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

And nobody pays the price for those lies and perhaps robbed the person tangible benefits.

 

[mtrycrafts]

Correct, that's what I was eluding to. I guess I should have said, 'a slight embellishment of his resume', LOL !

So, do you think he retired so abruptly because he wanted to run for Congress(which he could have done and not retired) or because his unit was to be sent to Iraq in 4 months ? Whatever, I'm more interested in his governing accomplishments.

He ran before retiring. I have no insight to his thinking. Why not retire before going to that post in Italy years before? He could very well be sent to the front lines from there.
Best if you just move on from this event. Accomplishes absolutely nothing. 

 

[mtrycrafts]

The GOP of military patriotism, eh?

Unless you were a POW, or disabled in battle.

 

[Trell]

Best if you just move on from this event. Accomplishes absolutely nothing.

Why should he do that?

 

[mtrycrafts]

Why should he do that?

Popcorn is with movies, at night, well after dinner.

 

[its phillip]

 

[lovinthehd]

When did Vance start using eye liner, tho?

 

[GO-NAD!]

When did Vance start using eye liner, tho?

He's in his Goth(-ic horror campaign) phase.

 

[Dude#1279435]

When did Vance start using eye liner, tho?

Since his wife gave him advice on how to apply it correctly.

 

[mtrycrafts]

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Nice suites in Holiday Inns lately.

 

[davidscott]

Both served their country honorably, so it really should be a non-factor.

 

[Swerd]

Both served their country honorably, so it really should be a non-factor.

Agreed. But it didn't stop there.

Vance, in his dishonest below-the-belt attack on Walz's military record is highly dishonorable.

 

[William Lemmerhirt]

Interesting interview here. The comments are a little interesting too.