JL Audio Gotham v2

[AvBoy892000]

I don't think anyone is bashing JL subs. They're awesome subs with excellent build quality and performance, but are very expensive when talking bang for buck. You can get A LOT more performance for the same money buying in multiples from other brands.

AGREED! I can't say nothing but your right lmao.

 

[Pogre]

AGREED! I can't say nothing but your right lmao.

That's why we steer folks away. We gear toward making a budget go more toward raw performance. Budget no object? Buy up a pair of Gothams and you're set! Tho like HD mentioned, in that price range you also have options like Funk Audio or Deep Sea Sound who also make awesome and pricy subs.

 

[NINaudio]

My opinion is my opinion and won't change because somebody reviewed something I own. You do realize I've owned many subs not just reviewed them right? There's nothing you can say to make me believe that a 600w rms 2000w peak sub will beat a Gotham V2 when a 800w rms 2500w peak PB 3000 can't. You think your the first to notice the 4500w rms short term statement? No you don't get it your just assuming. If I wanted end all be all I'd buy 3 JTR Captivator RS2s for less but I don't want big oversized industrial looking subs.

Bingo, it's an opinion!

What do you think I'm assuming?

 

[AvBoy892000]

That's why we steer folks away. We gear toward making a budget go more toward raw performance. Budget no object? Buy up a pair of Gothams and you're set! Tho like HD mentioned, in that price range you also have options like Funk Audio or Deep Sea Sound who also make awesome and pricy subs.

Yes sir I see what your saying. Deep Sea Sound? Yup! You just put me on to a new brand because I've never heard of them. Thanks @Pogre

 

[Pogre]

My opinion is my opinion and won't change because somebody reviewed something I own. You do realize I've owned many subs not just reviewed them right? There's nothing you can say to make me believe that a 600w rms 2000w peak sub will beat a Gotham V2 when a 800w rms 2500w peak PB 3000 can't. You think your the first to notice the 4500w rms short term statement? No you don't get it your just assuming. If I wanted end all be all I'd buy 3 JTR Captivator RS2s for less but I don't want big oversized industrial looking subs.

The thing you have to also consider is the sensitivity of the system tho. A 3 dB difference in sensitivity means that you need twice the power to hit the same volume for the less sensitive one. That's double the power for 3 dB, and a 3 dB difference is very common. Sometimes even more. Without a sensitivity spec the power rating is pretty much meaningless.

 

[AvBoy892000]

The thing you have to also consider is the sensitivity of the system tho. A 3 dB difference in sensitivity means that you need twice the power to hit the same volume for the less sensitive one. That's double the power for 3 dB, and a 3 dB difference is very common. Sometimes even more. Without a sensitivity spec the power rating is pretty much meaningless.

True! That's why I asked earlier if the other gentleman new the sensitivity of the Gotham because I don't even know. I can only go off the W7 sub but than again it's not beefed up and hasn't been upgraded like the subs in the Gotham V2 (same subs)

 

[Pogre]

True! That's why I asked earlier if the other gentleman new the sensitivity of the Gotham because I don't even know. I can only go off the W7 sub but than again it's not beefed up and hasn't been upgraded like the subs in the Gotham V2 (same subs)

Yeah that's the thing. Some companies will share that spec but most don't so it's really just guessing most of the time if you base them on power alone.

That said, I have no doubt the Gotham really pounds. I have a similar design I use for nearfield and it'll keep up with your Gotham. Doesn't have all the nice bells and whistles like yours does tho. It's a RBH SV-1212NR.

 

[AvBoy892000]

Bingo, it's an opinion!

What do you think I'm assuming?

I was referring to the me believing the Gotham V2 beinh the "be all end all" comment lol trust be I'm aware of Funk Audio, Harbottle and others haha

 

[AvBoy892000]

Yeah that's the thing. Some companies will share that spec but most don't so it's really just guessing most of the time if you base them on power alone.

That said, I have no doubt the Gotham really pounds. I have a similar design I use for nearfield and it'll keep up with your Gotham. Doesn't have all the nice bells and whistles like yours does tho. It's a RBH SV-1212NR.

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Crazy how it looks just like a Gotham without the extra buttons. The shape and everything. Don't tease me like that Pogre what are the specs for that beast? Hahahaha

 

[Pogre]

Crazy how it looks just like a Gotham without the extra buttons. The shape and everything. Don't tease me like that Pogre what are the specs for that beast? Hahahaha

Here's Audioholics' review with measurements of the previous (but basically the same) powered model with a 2400 watt amp.

RBH Sound SX-1212P/R Subwoofer Review

Review: The RBH Sound SX-1212P/R is a large vented system which houses dual 12” drivers, a 2400 watt rated amplifier and represents their biggest and baddest subwoofer. Extreme Bassasholic certified.

www.audioholics.com

It was the most powerful sub they'd measured up to that point.

Mine is the passive model, but I do have a separate 1800 watt amp powering it.

SV-1212NR BLACK

REFERENCE Dual 12" non-powered subwoofer • high-gloss black finish • requires amplification (PRICE PER SINGLE)

rbhsound.com

SV-1212PR BLACK

REFERENCE Dual 12" powered subwoofer • high-gloss black finish • 2,400 Watt amplifier w/ pre-programmed DSP (PRICE PER SINGLE)

rbhsound.com

That's both models, and if you talk to a dealer you can wheel n deal for a lot less than those list for.

RBH make a set of speakers that go with those subs. They stack right on top and I want a pair!

The full setup is called SVTR tower system. Dream speakers for me man. Gene, the site owner has a pair of these in gloss black and they're just gorgeous speakers.

RBH Sound SVTR Tower Reference Speaker Review

RBH's SVTR Tower combines the SV-831R reference grade monitor and SV-1212NR subwoofer to produce the ultimate tower speaker with mind-blowing performance. Could this be RBH's best tower yet? Read on.

www.audioholics.com

SVTR-FRS

Signature REFERENCE Modular Passive Full Range Speaker • high-gloss black finish • SV-831R (1); SV-1212NR (1); SVTR brace plate (1); SVTR Outrigger Set (1) • Full Range Tower configuration utilizing a custom integrated crossover (SOLD AS PAIR)

rbhsound.com

 

[NINaudio]

I was referring to the me believing the Gotham V2 beinh the "be all end all" comment lol trust be I'm aware of Funk Audio, Harbottle and others haha

To be fair, you kinda talk about it like it's the best thing ever and you come off as super fanboy-ish about it too, so that's where my assumption came from.

 

[AvBoy892000]

I literally just seen that stack of speakers and subs on YouTube. I just didn't know what I was looking at. I know know!

 

[AvBoy892000]

To be fair, you kinda talk about it like it's the best thing ever and you come off as super fanboy-ish about it too, so that's where my assumption came from.

To be fair, you kinda talk about it like it's the best thing ever and you come off as super fanboy-ish about it too, so that's where my assumption came from.

Super Fanboy-ish? Quite frankly a better word that describes many of us here including myself would be passionate. Kinda talk about it like its the best? makes no since lol. I'm simply sticking to my guns bro.

 

[Danzilla31]

Super Fanboy-ish? Quite frankly a better word that describes many of us here including myself would be passionate. Kinda talk about it like its the best? makes no since lol. I'm simply sticking to my guns bro.

I like the Gotham and it's got a good eq but like @shady J nothing will do better then a Dirac eq combined with REW unless you have a truly high end prepro like a Trinnov or the one Gene just reviewed here in his system dang I can't remember the name! What processor do you you use for your setup if I may ask?

By the way I LOOOOVE your legacy speakers truly awesome speakers

 

[William Lemmerhirt]

I think for 20k I’d rather have eight monolith 215’s. Or even four for only 10k!

 

[ryanosaur]

I'll start with 2 of these:

C24 | Harbottle Audio

Carbon Series 24 inch Subwoofer Custom colors and polished carbon available by request. The Carbon Series is the result of over 6 years of design and development with the express purpose of being the best subwoofer aimed squarely at the customer that wants every last scrap of bass that they paid...

www.harbottleaudio.com

Please and thanks!

 

[Danzilla31]

I'll start with 2 of these:

C24 | Harbottle Audio

Carbon Series 24 inch Subwoofer Custom colors and polished carbon available by request. The Carbon Series is the result of over 6 years of design and development with the express purpose of being the best subwoofer aimed squarely at the customer that wants every last scrap of bass that they paid...

www.harbottleaudio.com

Please and thanks!

Damn you got some good taste bro!

 

[ryanosaur]

Damn you got some good taste bro!

Top those off with two HO Devastators running Eminence NSW6021s...
Not only with that Gotham go running home to mommy, you may well come out a few grand ahead.
And have way more bass than you know what to do with.
#Headroom for days!

 

[William Lemmerhirt]

Top those off with two HO Devastators running Eminence NSW6021s...
Not only with that Gotham go running home to mommy, you may well come out a few grand ahead.
And have way more bass than you know what to do with.
#Headroom for days!

Yes. +10 for devs.

 

[AvBoy892000]

I think for 20k I’d rather have eight monolith 215’s. Or even four for only 10k!

Yes i seen the review for the 215's and how it dug deep to beat out the pb16 Ultra on the low end. It's truly a beast.