Some words regarding Neal Young removing his music from Spotify.

panteragstk

panteragstk

Audioholic Warlord
Okay, I've been silent on this very important subject but can no longer hold my tongue...

Nickelback ain't that bad. I even think they have a few actual good songs, and a few that one might even consider heavy metal. I don't think they're an awesome band, but I do think they unfairly get a bad rap.
First album was fine. I gave up after that. Them and Theory of a Dead Man are pretty much the same band.
 
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Seriously, I have no life.
I don't know. Nickelback without a singer sounds great. When he starts, the lyrics are so bad I can't listen.

Same for Van Halen. Hot For Teacher is one of the most technically difficult songs ever to exist...and has horrifically bad lyrics.
Who wrote the lyrics? Was it David Lee Roth? Blame him, not the band.

FWIW, I saw Roth at Summerfest and if there's one thing he can do, it's his ability to attract an extremely attractive crowd of females. He was no spring chicken at the time, but they were there, in force.

If you think that's difficult, check out Alan Holdsworth- Eddie said many times, "If there's no Alan Holdsworth, there's no Van Halen".
 
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Seriously, I have no life.
Okay, I've been silent on this very important subject but can no longer hold my tongue...

Nickelback ain't that bad. I even think they have a few actual good songs, and a few that one might even consider heavy metal. I don't think they're an awesome band, but I do think they unfairly get a bad rap.
As I wrote, I saw them for awhile and then, we left. Even the women we were with didn't like them.

Still trying to understand the success of Weezer. Yeah, they're a Wisconsin band, but.....

Don't understand the success of Chevell and Fountains of Wayne, either- I saw both at Summerfest and they had great crowds, but Chevelle was another one trick pony, Fountains were totally bland. Maybe I saw them too early in their careers, but I have seen other 'unknown' bands that were excellent, even though most people in the crowd didn't know who they were.
 
panteragstk

panteragstk

Audioholic Warlord
Who wrote the lyrics? Was it David Lee Roth? Blame him, not the band.

FWIW, I saw Roth at Summerfest and if there's one thing he can do, it's his ability to attract an extremely attractive crowd of females. He was no spring chicken at the time, but they were there, in force.

If you think that's difficult, check out Alan Holdsworth- Eddie said many times, "If there's no Alan Holdsworth, there's no Van Halen".
I still blame the band for letting him sing those horrible lyrics.

Can you imagine being in the meeting where they're trying to apply lyrics to the music they wrote? "you wanna talk about what now?"
 
Pogre

Pogre

Audioholic Slumlord
As I wrote, I saw them for awhile and then, we left. Even the women we were with didn't like them.

Still trying to understand the success of Weezer. Yeah, they're a Wisconsin band, but.....

Don't understand the success of Chevell and Fountains of Wayne, either- I saw both at Summerfest and they had great crowds, but Chevelle was another one trick pony, Fountains were totally bland. Maybe I saw them too early in their careers, but I have seen other 'unknown' bands that were excellent, even though most people in the crowd didn't know who they were.
I was on a huge Chevelle kick for a while. My take on them is, they're very heavy but melodic and they're not shy when it comes to having some bass in their music. Also their first album reminded me of Tool, lol.

Ultimately tho, after listening to their entire library they only have 2 cds that I really like. The rest I can take or leave.
 
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I still blame the band for letting him sing those horrible lyrics.

Can you imagine being in the meeting where they're trying to apply lyrics to the music they wrote? "you wanna talk about what now?"
Look at the benefits they received from having him as lead singer.

I don't know why you're hatin' on the lyrics. What's not to like? o_O

 
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I was on a huge Chevelle kick for a while. My take on them is, they're very heavy but melodic and they're not shy when it comes to having some bass in their music. Also their first album reminded me of Tool, lol.

Ultimately tho, after listening to their entire library they only have 2 cds that I really like. The rest I can take or leave.
I was at their show with a friend of a friend who was completely in awe of Chevelle and when I said they didn't interest me, I thought his head would explode. OTOH, I'm at least ten years older than the others I was with, which means I lived through the crap music before the Beatles and everything that came after. The music from 1964-1969 alone was worth being older- hearing it 10-15 years later wouldn't be the same as hearing it when it first hit the airwaves. I think I said something like "Listen to Cream, Zepplin, Hendrix and others from the late-'60s and consider what came before".
 
panteragstk

panteragstk

Audioholic Warlord
Look at the benefits they received from having him as lead singer.

I don't know why you're hatin' on the lyrics. What's not to like? o_O

I don't disagree. Nickelback was a HUGE band for a long time as well.

They're just too corny.

Maybe I just don't like David Lee Roth?
 
panteragstk

panteragstk

Audioholic Warlord
I was on a huge Chevelle kick for a while. My take on them is, they're very heavy but melodic and they're not shy when it comes to having some bass in their music. Also their first album reminded me of Tool, lol.

Ultimately tho, after listening to their entire library they only have 2 cds that I really like. The rest I can take or leave.
When I saw their video for Point #1 I thought it was Tool.

I'm a huge Chevelle fan, but they SUCK live. I've seen them twice and they are not good at all.

Interestingly enough the first time I saw them they were opening for Nickelback. I didn't stay for Nickelback. Wish I hadn't even gone honestly.
 
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Seriously, I have no life.
When I saw their video for Point #1 I thought it was Tool.

I'm a huge Chevelle fan, but they SUCK live. I've seen them twice and they are not good at all.

Interestingly enough the first time I saw them they were opening for Nickelback. I didn't stay for Nickelback. Wish I hadn't even gone honestly.
Apparently, they had management that didn't explain that a band needs to reinforce their recordings by PLAYING LIVE IN FRONT OF CROWDS. So many bands couldn't sell records because radio didn't know how to categorize them, which resulted in not playing their music, yet they absolutely killed, live. So many unheard of acts that are amazing......
 
Pogre

Pogre

Audioholic Slumlord
When I saw their video for Point #1 I thought it was Tool.

I'm a huge Chevelle fan, but they SUCK live. I've seen them twice and they are not good at all.

Interestingly enough the first time I saw them they were opening for Nickelback. I didn't stay for Nickelback. Wish I hadn't even gone honestly.
I think La Gargola is my favorite album, but their first one is very good too. It's the one that got my attention to begin with.
 
panteragstk

panteragstk

Audioholic Warlord
I think La Gargola is my favorite album, but their first one is very good too. It's the one that got my attention to begin with.
I like that one, but I started with them before the first album was out so I'd wager it might be my favorite.

I like them all, but they're kind of like Godsmack to me. Great band, but a bit boring. I can always listen to them and Chevelle, but they're not attention grabbers for sure.
 
Pogre

Pogre

Audioholic Slumlord
I like that one, but I started with them before the first album was out so I'd wager it might be my favorite.

I like them all, but they're kind of like Godsmack to me. Great band, but a bit boring. I can always listen to them and Chevelle, but they're not attention grabbers for sure.
I never thought about it like that, but yeah... I'd say I think of them like I do Godsmack. Exactly the way you put it. They're both competent, have some good songs, but nothing groundbreaking and a li'l boring after a while. Still very listenable tho.
 
emorphien

emorphien

Audioholic General
If only Rogan would go away and take his fans with him.
 
SithZedi

SithZedi

Audioholic General
However one feels about the issue, one thing does seem to be happening.
We are seeing the Tipper Gore effect on this. For the younger, yes she was Al Gore's wife, who in the 1980s was offended by some of Prince's lyrics amoung other artists. We even had Senate hearings on the subject. Waste of taxpayers money as usual.
So what happened. Well Prince, et al, gained more fans. Spotify and JR should do well from this.
Oddly, most of my friends who were outraged at the idea of censorship of anything back then are for censorship now. Especially of things they do not agree with. Getting old sucks for some.
 
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Lazasar

Junior Audioholic
Who is to define misinformation? A lot of things that were “facts” from 2019 through 2021 are now deemed to be no longer factual. Hell, if we ignore dissenting opinions, we would all still believe the world is flat. I suggest that if we were all a little more open to hearing contrary opinions, we would be better off. The best antidote for wrong speech is more speech.
 
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