Mikado463

Mikado463

Audioholic Spartan
well that doesn't look too bad, perhaps Rock Auto can hook you up with a new one and you have a buddy with tools and knowledge to change it !

Again, do the diagnostics to be sure !
 
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Trebdp83

Audioholic Spartan
Locate and check the fuel pump relay before diving into the pump itself.
 
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Trebdp83

Audioholic Spartan
Sorry, locate and check fuse before anything. If that is good, move on to next point.
 
slipperybidness

slipperybidness

Audioholic Warlord
well that doesn't look too bad, perhaps Rock Auto can hook you up with a new one and you have a buddy with tools and knowledge to change it !

Again, do the diagnostics to be sure !
I just wanted to chime in here-- RockAuto is awesome! I have bought real-deal performance parts from them that cost just slightly more than economy parts at O'Reily's.
 
afterlife2

afterlife2

Audioholic Warlord
Called and joined AAA to see if they can do a diagnostic test. Wish me luck!
 
afterlife2

afterlife2

Audioholic Warlord
The AAA guy came. He says it's not the Alternator or the Fuel pump. He said could be Miss Fire or Crank Position Center. I don't qualify for a tow till Monday. I will get a tow and go to Auto Zone to get the Miss fire fixed and get another diagnostic beforehand it's free there. Thoughts?
 
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Trebdp83

Audioholic Spartan
Wouldn't be the alternator. You'll know it’s the alternator when the lights go out and the engine stops and the damn thing leaves on the side of the road on a dark night. Usually the engine has to fire up to actually misfire. You say it was “chugging”. Was it cranking slowly? Sometimes a bad starter can be mistaken for a bad battery. Ever replace a starter? You almost have to be a contortionist if you can’t get it up on a rack. Anyway, hope you get it going soon. Tow truck will be around Monday. Enjoy the weekend.
 
Alex2507

Alex2507

Audioholic Slumlord
Miss Fire or Crank Position Center.
A misfire means it's like a heart skipping beats ... but it still beats. The term is crank position 'sensor' and on our car, bad crank sensors threw a check engine light but didn't stop the car from running, not to mention actually not starting ... which is not to be confused with the motor not turning over by way of a battery powered starter: what I think you referred to as 'chugging'?

If the starter is turning the motor over (and over and over and over) but the motor won't 'start' ... as in continue running, your starter is fine. So fuel and spark need to be looked at. I don't know anything about Kias.

It's likely the AAA tech could hear the fuel pump turn on when he turned the key to the run position. The next thing to look at is the coil pack if you have a coil pack. No way you still have a distributor ... but either would be at the opposite end of your spark plugs ... unless it's a diesel. Ha ha, j/k kind of.

If you don't have spark plug wires, then it's coil on plug. Towing it to Auto Zone will get you a free diagnostic of stored trouble codes ... but the AAA guy? No code reader? I wouldn't tow a car to a parts store for a free code check. No way is that worth the hassle.

Fo Sho you need to recharge your battery by now. Any service station should be able to do that for a few bucks.

It could just be bad gas, especially if the vehicle sat, unused before finally making its way to you.

It might have a fuel filter ... cars are fun.

 
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afterlife2

afterlife2

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He had no code reader, but checked what he could without it. Damn dunno what to do. I know I'll get hammered with a large bill from a repair place. Do you think I should get it towed to an autherize AAA garage? I just don't want them finding 5 other made up Sh-t from a repair shop. I really need to go to work and pay bills. Please help guys!
 
Alex2507

Alex2507

Audioholic Slumlord
Do you think I should get it towed to an autherize AAA garage?
Find out from other people who takes care of them.

You can buy your own code reader pretty cheap from what I heard.

Did your car sit for a long period before making its way to you? Is there a fuel filter?
Do you have a coil or a distributor?
Are the wires from 2005?

Pull a wire off the plug and hold it close to the block to see if it sparks while a friend turns the key. Find a way to check that there is a timing belt still intact. Is the belt from 2005? If it's loose enough to skip teeth the timing could be the problem.

But a AAA garage is no sign of competence or integrity.

There is no such thing as a free puppy.

BTW, the ignition wires carry thousands and thousands of volts. I don't think it will kill you but if it does I bet it would hurt the whole time. Good luck.
 
BoredSysAdmin

BoredSysAdmin

Audioholic Slumlord
He had no code reader, but checked what he could without it. Damn dunno what to do.
btw: OBD2 scanner doesn't have to be expensive:
you'd need two parts:
a) OBD2/BT dongle like this one:https://www.amazon.com/obdator-Bluetooth-Scanner-Automotive-Diagnostic/dp/B074DWH8JR/ref=sr_1_5?dchild=1&keywords=elm327+bluetooth+obd2&qid=1631468144&sr=8-5
b) OBD2 tool for smartphones like this one (ios shown, but plenty of them for android as well)
 
afterlife2

afterlife2

Audioholic Warlord
btw: OBD2 scanner doesn't have to be expensive:
you'd need two parts:
a) OBD2/BT dongle like this one:https://www.amazon.com/obdator-Bluetooth-Scanner-Automotive-Diagnostic/dp/B074DWH8JR/ref=sr_1_5?dchild=1&keywords=elm327+bluetooth+obd2&qid=1631468144&sr=8-5
b) OBD2 tool for smartphones like this one (ios shown, but plenty of them for android as well)
Thanks BSA will these two work? I don't have an iPhone.
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BoredSysAdmin

BoredSysAdmin

Audioholic Slumlord
Thanks BSA will these two work? I don't have an iPhone.
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Not top one - that one is useless for you.
try these:
 
afterlife2

afterlife2

Audioholic Warlord
Not top one - that one is useless for you.
try these:
Awesome thanks BSA! OK ordered. I'll try the bluedriver app. I'll probably send it to an autherized aaa dealer tomorrow morning and see what happens. If something else happens at least I'll have the tool. I missed alot days of work so hopefully it can be fixed by Tues or weds.
 
afterlife2

afterlife2

Audioholic Warlord
Well the car was towed at 2:30pm. The guy who towed it thinks it's the gas pump after he turned it on. Damn I'm sure costly. :(
 
afterlife2

afterlife2

Audioholic Warlord
yep, that was my guess, best of luck Jose !
Well called the mechanic and he said it was the Crank, but waiting to see if that is the issue. Cost will be a bit over $500 if that is the issue. :(
 
BoredSysAdmin

BoredSysAdmin

Audioholic Slumlord
"The Crank"? Do you mean the starter? why not try getting a cheaper aftermarket part?
 
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