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Patrick Kennedy

Patrick Kennedy

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one more question. my ceiling is a suspended ceiling. Should i be worried if i installe in ceiling speaker?
 
Patrick Kennedy

Patrick Kennedy

Audioholic
The Klipsch RP series is very good, a significant improvement over previous speakers. But that isn't just for more loudness, it's for more accurate sound reproduction. Definitely look at Paradigm Premier speakers which are manufactured in Canada- those are very good! You can get Monoprice Monolith THX speakers in Canada through Amazon.ca. You can get SVS speakers in Canada. So there are a few good choices for you.
can you suggest me some paradigm speaker to me?
 
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shadyJ

Speaker of the House
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can you suggest me some paradigm speaker to me?
From Paradigm, look at anything made from the Premier line. It's all going to be very good. The Premier centers are among the best in the market. The Paradigm Defiance X series subs are also killer for the price.
 
Patrick Kennedy

Patrick Kennedy

Audioholic
Upgrade your Subwoofer. Consider 2 Hsu VTF2mk5, or 2 VTF3mk5. These are considered very good subs at an excellent value! There are others you could consider, but these, especially for the cost, will likely make you a very happy Bass-Head!
After that... If you don't want Atmos, then upgrade your speakers. An Atmos upgrade... say 5.2.4 does not have to cost a lot. but if you are uncertain about that, then upgrade your front 3 speakers for better sound quality overall.
I was considering buying the Monolith 15” THX Ultra Subwoofer
Do you think it is a good product for the size of my room?
 
Patrick Kennedy

Patrick Kennedy

Audioholic
Everyone has their own preferences. I am 6 mos in to the ownership of my subs. I love them. I listen mostly to music, but also some HT. My room is about 2000'3, and I have 2 subs that could each handle a 5000'3 room. Maybe its a sickness. ;)
You are mostly HT... keep in mind the LFE channel goes down into infrasonic territory. That sub is rated at 28Hz. Of course it will have some output below that...
But if anything can offer immediate improvement to your experience, it will be the sub. Speakers can be upgraded, too, but I think the sub may do the trick until such a time that you want to completely redo your speakers. :)

I do agree with what Shady said... you can get better experience by upgrading the speakers, too. But truly good subs in your system might allow you time to plan more strategically on how you proceed for future upgrades.
Would you recommand the monolith 15" THX ultra for the size of my room?
 
Patrick Kennedy

Patrick Kennedy

Audioholic
Lots of good advice.

Yes, upgrade sub/s. The 23’ length is long. It’s a big enough room to easily overwhelm a klipsch 10” sub.

Yeas do atmos, 7.2.4 and move the seating back to about 2/3. Ceiling IS short so I would use in ceiling not on ceiling. Follow the guide and the angles, and you should be fine.
Can a 15" monolith do the job in my room?
 
William Lemmerhirt

William Lemmerhirt

Audioholic Overlord
Can a 15" monolith do the job in my room?
I will say that’s a yes. I will also say, start saving for another one!!! If you have mainly one seat to worry about, one subwoofer can be integrated very nicely as long as you can dedicate time to experiment with placement and phase and XO. Two subwoofers however will help to even the response over multiple seats. This also takes care to get good results.
 
Patrick Kennedy

Patrick Kennedy

Audioholic
I will say that’s a yes. I will also say, start saving for another one!!! If you have mainly one seat to worry about, one subwoofer can be integrated very nicely as long as you can dedicate time to experiment with placement and phase and XO. Two subwoofers however will help to even the response over multiple seats. This also takes care to get good results.
There will be only a 3 person couch, nothing else. I guess i need to do the crawl positioning test
 
William Lemmerhirt

William Lemmerhirt

Audioholic Overlord
There will be only a 3 person couch, nothing else. I guess i need to do the crawl positioning test
Well, with a single sub you’ll likely have variations from seat to seat, but focus on yours first lol! In any case, I think that would be a great subwoofer for your space. I’m also pretty sure 4 of them would be good for mine!
 
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Danzilla31

Audioholic Spartan
Can a 15" monolith do the job in my room?
But also strongly consider @ryanosaur suggestion on the HSU VTFMk2 or the VTFMK5 in duals For not much more then the monolith you are looking at dual 15 inch beasts that would absolutely knock you through the wall Michael J Fox back to the future style duals in this would outperform 1 on of the Monolith's pretty much across the board a slight edge to the monolith on extension but your not going to notice it really. Those HSU's are a highly regarded sub for a reason and for bang for the buck it's difficult to beat them
 
William Lemmerhirt

William Lemmerhirt

Audioholic Overlord
But also strongly consider @ryanosaur suggestion on the HSU VTFMk2 or the VTFMK5 in duals For not much more then the monolith you are looking at dual 15 inch beasts that would absolutely knock you through the wall Michael J Fox back to the future style duals in this would outperform 1 on of the Monolith's pretty much across the board a slight edge to the monolith on extension but your not going to notice it really. Those HSU's are a highly regarded sub for a reason and for bang for the buck it's difficult to beat them
 
ryanosaur

ryanosaur

Audioholic Overlord
I was considering buying the Monolith 15” THX Ultra Subwoofer
Do you think it is a good product for the size of my room?
Would you recommand the monolith 15" THX ultra for the size of my room?
Can a 15" monolith do the job in my room?
It's OK to ask once. :p

All I have to go on here are the reviews Shady did. The Monolith has a bit more output than the X13s. Nothing wrong with that. When I first set my subs up in my ~2000'3 room, I did the ol' 'set to 50%' thing and started playing music. Within 5 minutes my ears were going numb! I started this slow process of turning them down, little by little until that feeling went away. Right now, when I run 'em hot, they are only abut 1/3 gain, and trimmed down pretty significantly in the AVR.
The nice thing about this is that I am never taxing them, really: never driving them to the edge of distortion. In that regard, I know my bass will always be very linear and clean, and I have a lot of headroom to play with if I choose.

So, will one Mono 15" take care of your room? Yes. I think the 12" will too. Would I still recommend two, yes. Would I encourage you to look at Hsu, instead? Honestly, I can't say either way. Both have good reviews. Hsu has a longer reputation. Both are in LA and ship from there.
I will say this about the Hsu subs: Both the VTF3 and VTF15 use the same driver and amp. the only difference is the size and tuning of the enclosure, with the VTF15 being larger and tuned ever so slightly lower.
Beyond all of this, you are really coming down to a discussion of budget and features+ergonomics. Only you can answer for yourself which sub will be right for you and your system.

Fun times, the decision of what sub to buy! :)
 
Patrick Kennedy

Patrick Kennedy

Audioholic
But also strongly consider @ryanosaur suggestion on the HSU VTFMk2 or the VTFMK5 in duals For not much more then the monolith you are looking at dual 15 inch beasts that would absolutely knock you through the wall Michael J Fox back to the future style duals in this would outperform 1 on of the Monolith's pretty much across the board a slight edge to the monolith on extension but your not going to notice it really. Those HSU's are a highly regarded sub for a reason and for bang for the buck it's difficult to beat them
Is it possible to mix the sub i already got from klipsch and one of the HSU or the monolith?

Also i was looking at amazon canada, and i am unsure i cant get HSU in canada
 
William Lemmerhirt

William Lemmerhirt

Audioholic Overlord
Is it possible to mix the sub i already got from klipsch and one of the HSU or the monolith?

Also i was looking at amazon canada, and i am unsure i cant get HSU in canada
That a answer in short is no. The big sub will be held back by the smaller one, meaning the klipsch will run out of usable output WAY before the monolith will and at that point you will hear a lot of distortion from the smaller sub and it could become damaged. Also, the port tunings are very different, and you’ll encounter phase issues that will make the FR hard to deal with. You could possibly(not recommended) use the klipsch right behind the couch, like firing into the back of it, but I would personally just move it to another system like the bedroom or garage etc.
 
Patrick Kennedy

Patrick Kennedy

Audioholic
That a answer in short is no. The big sub will be held back by the smaller one, meaning the klipsch will run out of usable output WAY before the monolith will and at that point you will hear a lot of distortion from the smaller sub and it could become damaged. Also, the port tunings are very different, and you’ll encounter phase issues that will make the FR hard to deal with. You could possibly(not recommended) use the klipsch right behind the couch, like firing into the back of it, but I would personally just move it to another system like the bedroom or garage etc.
Ok i understand. thanks. I will have other question later.
 
Patrick Kennedy

Patrick Kennedy

Audioholic
It's OK to ask once. :p

All I have to go on here are the reviews Shady did. The Monolith has a bit more output than the X13s. Nothing wrong with that. When I first set my subs up in my ~2000'3 room, I did the ol' 'set to 50%' thing and started playing music. Within 5 minutes my ears were going numb! I started this slow process of turning them down, little by little until that feeling went away. Right now, when I run 'em hot, they are only abut 1/3 gain, and trimmed down pretty significantly in the AVR.
The nice thing about this is that I am never taxing them, really: never driving them to the edge of distortion. In that regard, I know my bass will always be very linear and clean, and I have a lot of headroom to play with if I choose.

So, will one Mono 15" take care of your room? Yes. I think the 12" will too. Would I still recommend two, yes. Would I encourage you to look at Hsu, instead? Honestly, I can't say either way. Both have good reviews. Hsu has a longer reputation. Both are in LA and ship from there.
I will say this about the Hsu subs: Both the VTF3 and VTF15 use the same driver and amp. the only difference is the size and tuning of the enclosure, with the VTF15 being larger and tuned ever so slightly lower.
Beyond all of this, you are really coming down to a discussion of budget and features+ergonomics. Only you can answer for yourself which sub will be right for you and your system.

Fun times, the decision of what sub to buy! :)
Alright i might just go with your plan to buy two sun fron HSU. My question is ... should i go with two 12 inch or two 15?. Is it enough to handle well my room. I dont want to make a bas decision.
 
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snakeeyes

Audioholic Ninja
Alright i might just go with your plan to buy two sun fron HSU. My question is ... should i go with two 12 inch or two 15?. Is it enough to handle well my room. I dont want to make a bas decision.
Since your room is small, two ported 12in subs will be great, but not sure how shipping to Canada factors into the price.

HSU VTF2 mk5
SVS PB2000.
Monoprice Monolith 12
 
ryanosaur

ryanosaur

Audioholic Overlord
First, have you confirmed costs for shipping to you?

Also, please refresh my memory... was it roughly 2000'3 for you or less? I wanna say I remember your room being around 1700'3.

I think you'd be solid with VTF2s. I think you'd be solid with Mono 12"s also. (Sorry, not trying to confuse or complicate, just forgot (again) that you are in Canada. ;) )
Anyway, yes, in that room, if you want to protect a budget, the 12" options will do you very well. Nothing wrong with fishing with dynamite, of course... but the 12" options will handle your room well. :)
 
Patrick Kennedy

Patrick Kennedy

Audioholic
First, have you confirmed costs for shipping to you?

Also, please refresh my memory... was it roughly 2000'3 for you or less? I wanna say I remember your room being around 1700'3.

I think you'd be solid with VTF2s. I think you'd be solid with Mono 12"s also. (Sorry, not trying to confuse or complicate, just forgot (again) that you are in Canada. ;) )
Anyway, yes, in that room, if you want to protect a budget, the 12" options will do you very well. Nothing wrong with fishing with dynamite, of course... but the 12" options will handle your room well. :)
200'3 feets it 23 feet long / 11 feets wide / 7 feets high
 

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