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[Patrick Kennedy]

How about something like this?

thats a good idea but dont you think i might be a bit far from the tv? you would put 4 atmos speaker ?

 

[Patrick Kennedy]

1. There is at least one thread discussing Atmos/DTSX:
https://forums.audioholics.com/forums/threads/the-dolby-atmos-dts-x-and-auro-3d-discussion-thread.112480/

You can see in this thread that some of us who have Atmos in our systems have greatly enjoyed Atmos/DTSX.

I think if you can install ceiling speakers, that would be great. If not, then I think the 2nd best would be to install height speakers as high up the wall as possible and point them to your seat.

2. A 7.1 system is possible in rooms smaller than yours. But whether it is worth it is highly debatable. I think if you have multiple rows of seats, then 7.1 might be worth it. If you only have one row of seats, then I don't think it's worth it.

3. How do you like the sound of your speakers now? If they sound good to you, then they are good.

If they don't sound good to you, then you need to go audition some speakers.

The thing is, its hard to compare my speaker sound to something else. The best things i guess would be to have two different speaker and compare them.

The more i read on 7.1 opinion and the more i think i might not go that way. But maybe atmos intergrated ceiling speaker could be nice. I fear they might be to close to my surround side speaker.

 

[Danzilla31]

Hello Audiofriends from a french Canadian guy (english is a bit bad sorry)

I will like some insight on upgrading my home theater system. Should i go for 7.1 or stay 5.1. Should i upgrade to atmos, or should i upgrade my existing speaker for better one. i have include in this thread an image with some spec of my room.

i know i have some limitation with my room, so i dont know if i can accomodate a atmos system in ceiling (i dont want the bouncing speaker). Is 7.1 possible in my room and will it make a difference?

If i upgrade my speaker what should i be looking for so i can hear a big difference.

My budget is mid range.

This is my spec for my actual system
https://ca.yamaha.com/en/products/audio_visual/av_receivers_amps/rx-a2060_u/index.html
https://www.klipsch.ca/products/sub-10-subwoofer
https://www.klipsch.ca/products/c-1-center-speaker
https://www.klipsch.ca/products/rs-42-ii-surround-speaker
https://www.klipsch.ca/products/f-1-floorstanding-speaker



THANLK YOU ALL FOR HELPING OUT.

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Hey welcome to the forum! I can attest to How good the new Klipsch RP line is I've owned them loved them.
I do think an upgrade for you would be a great idea. Better and more powerful speakers and subs aren't necessarily for me anyway about if there too powerful for the room I like high sensitivity very powerful speakers because that way I can hit great sound at lower volumes and achieve this with great dynamics

Are the 3 JBL 590's for my front 3 with the 2 580's for my surrounds plus the Klipsch THX ultra's with my 2 SVS PB 4000's overkill for my new room I'm building?

Absolutely but I love the great sound I get the clarity and dynamics at lower volumes I can achieve without pushing my amps or recievers or speakers for that matter.

Why don't you start with just upgrading your 5.1 for now try going to a better 5.1 or 5.2

Then if you still have the bug try adding 2 more speakers to the mix.

I always loved 7.2 setups myself just always got fun immersion more knowledgeable people might be able to comment but I do believe your ceiling height might be an issue for atmos. I think your concern with separation from the surrounds to the heights could be a valid one. Others might be able to give you better feedback on that one

Best of luck on your journey keep us posted!

 

[Danzilla31]

I do apologize I missed Williams post on atmos if he thinks they can work in your ceiling as in ceiling you should give it some serious thought. He gave me excellent advice on setting up my system.

I do want to add that these upgrades don't have to happen all at once. Pace it first start with subs or getting a better front 3 speaker set up. Then add on a bit at a time improve The surrounds then add in one set of heights or in ceiling then another if you want. Go slow because that way you may find once you improve your subs that may be enough

And like some already mentioned if you love your system now no need to change. Don't forget that. Although if you got the bug it may be safe to assume that you are wanting maybe to experience more I can't fault that a lot of us have been there nothing wrong with improving just to increase you experience.

 

[William Lemmerhirt]

thats a good idea but dont you think i might be a bit far from the tv? you would put 4 atmos speaker ?

Depends. How big is the display?

Yes I would go with 4 tops. Especially since you have enough room behind the LP. Too many times people do 7.x.x with a couch against the back wall. Don’t get it...
IMO, if you have to choose(which doesn’t seem to be the case) 5.1.4 is better than 7.1.x. Rear surrounds are icing on the cake but a well implemented 5ch base layer is ultimately more important. FWIW mine is 7.3.4.

 

[William Lemmerhirt]

If your current subwoofer sounds good to you, then it's good.

No need to change anything that sounds good to you unless you just want to change.

It's about YOUR preference, not others.

What if he has no preference because he hasn’t heard anything else.

Btw, where’d you put Andrew?

 

[AcuDefTechGuy]

What if he has no preference because he hasn’t heard anything else.

Btw, where’d you put Andrew?

He's locked in the HT room today.

Perhaps the OP has not heard the biggest baddest bass out there.

But many people don't actually care for the biggest baddest bass out there.

As long as the sub produces wall-shaking bass, that's all some people care about. And some people actually don't even want wall-shaking bass.

 

[AcuDefTechGuy]

5.1.4 is better ...a well implemented 5ch base layer is ultimately more important.

At least do 5.1.2, but 5.1.4 would be good.

Those ceiling speakers and the overhead sound effects are very entertaining and enjoyable.

 

[AcuDefTechGuy]

It's hard to compare my speaker sound to something else.

I've owned and listened to many speakers and subs. The main objective of speakers and subs is to REPRODUCE the sounds we actually hear in REAL LIFE.

I'm sure we've all heard many real life sounds in our years.

If you've been to commercial cineplexes/ movie theaters, you've heard sound systems that cost quite a few dollars that most people cannot afford. So you do know a few sounds.

You do know what Crystal Clear sound is like. If you hear something in real life that doesn't sound CLEAR, you will know it instantly.

As for subwoofers and the frequencies below 100Hz, how much wall-shaking and earthquake sounds do you want?

 

[AcuDefTechGuy]

Now if you just want to upgrade because you have the itch and want some "high-end" brands, there are many brands out there and everyone has their own favorite brand.

Some examples: RBH, KEF, PSB, B&W, Revel, Focal, Dynaudio, Monitor Audio, Paradigm are a few.

Just visit some stores and listen for yourself.

 

[Patrick Kennedy]

Depends. How big is the display?

Yes I would go with 4 tops. Especially since you have enough room behind the LP. Too many times people do 7.x.x with a couch against the back wall. Don’t get it...
IMO, if you have to choose(which doesn’t seem to be the case) 5.1.4 is better than 7.1.x. Rear surrounds are icing on the cake but a well implemented 5ch base layer is ultimately more important. FWIW mine is 7.3.4.

LP=?

 

[William Lemmerhirt]

LP=?

Listen position. Sorry...

 

[William Lemmerhirt]

He's locked in the HT room today.

Perhaps the OP has not heard the biggest baddest bass out there.

But many people don't actually care for the biggest baddest bass out there.

As long as the sub produces wall-shaking bass, that's all some people care about. And some people actually don't even want wall-shaking bass.

Well, that’s a good place for him to be. Good job!

Agreed. He probably hasn’t heard/felt super bass. I jus think quality bass shouldn’t be undersold. I’m not even talking about room shaking, I mean distortion free deep linear smooth bass. In any quantity, it’s much more satisfying than one note fart box bass. Imo, it’s better if he can skip all the incremental steps. Don’t think he needs 8, 15” subs, but you can’t really recommend he keeps a single 10” klipsch??? How many do you have?

 

[Patrick Kennedy]

I've owned and listened to many speakers and subs. The main objective of speakers and subs is to REPRODUCE the sounds we actually hear in REAL LIFE.

I'm sure we've all heard many real life sounds in our years.

If you've been to commercial cineplexes/ movie theaters, you've heard sound systems that cost quite a few dollars that most people cannot afford. So you do know a few sounds.

You do know what Crystal Clear sound is like. If you hear something in real life that doesn't sound CLEAR, you will know it instantly.

As for subwoofers and the frequencies below 100Hz, how much wall-shaking and earthquake sounds do you want?

i never really gave a tought on my sub, i dont know what spec i need for a good sub. i dont want a overpowered sub that will destroy my room

 

[Patrick Kennedy]

Now if you just want to upgrade because you have the itch and want some "high-end" brands, there are many brands out there and everyone has their own favorite brand.

Some examples: RBH, KEF, PSB, B&W, Revel, Focal, Dynaudio, Monitor Audio, Paradigm are a few.

Just visit some stores and listen for yourself.

i agree that there is many good brand out there, but unless everyone tell me that i should dish Klipsch, i would very like to stay with them. The problem is what are the good klipsch speaker that i need for the 3 main and the sub?

 

[William Lemmerhirt]

i agree that there is many good brand out there, but unless everyone tell me that i should dish Klipsch, i would very like to stay with them. The problem is what are the good klipsch speaker that i need for the 3 main and the sub?

Patrick, where are you located?

 

[ryanosaur]

i never really gave a tought on my sub, i dont know what spec i need for a good sub. i dont want a overpowered sub that will destroy my room

Just because its capable of tearing your house apart doesn't mean you let it! You want clean output with limited distortion. I would not accept any sub with higher than 18Hz output on the low end. Amp size is of negligible importance. Brands commonly mentioned and all very good: Hsu, SVS, Outlaw, PSA, Rythmik... a little more pricey is JTR, Deep Sea, Seaton, and Funk. The common phrase is that among these, you can't really go wrong. The important part is learning and researching a bit... understand what you are reading in the reviews enough to make an informed decision. ShadyJ is the house subwoofer tester for AH... his reviews are very informative!!!

 

[Patrick Kennedy]

Patrick, where are you located?

Canada, Québec, Saguenay. Why? do you want to come home and investigate my home theater

 

[William Lemmerhirt]

Canada, Québec, Saguenay. Why? do you want to come home and investigate my home theater

lol! It would be fun. Was wondering for availability. Your options will be different than ours.

 

[AcuDefTechGuy]

you can’t really recommend he keeps a single 10” klipsch??? How many do you have?

See, every situation is different. It’s not one-size-fit-all.

In my situation, I require no less than 10 subs. There’s probably room for 10 more.

For you, it requires a bigger ported sub that goes down to 5Hz.

I used to own a single 10” passive sub from NHT (SW2P) with an 80W external amp. It sounded very clean and tight and was able to shake the room if required. And the room was 18’ x 20’ x 10’ ceiling open to kitchen and dining room.

And this was a $500 10” sub w/ 80 watts. My brother now owns this sub in his 20x20x10 living room.

So for my brother, all he needs is a single 10” sub with an 80W amp.

Since then I’ve owned subs like the dual Funk 18.0 subs and dual Rythmik subs and heard other big SVS subs at friends’ houses.

For the OP, perhaps a single 10” Klipsch sub is all he wants because it gives him clean tight bass for his room. We really can’t judge until we’ve been inside his room.

Now, would a more expensive sub or a few subs sound great in his room? Sure it would.