Yamaha RX-V6A not showing volume changes on LG C1?

[Bobobo]

Hi all,
I looked all over and saw no solution. It’s my first real sound setup so maybe im missing something trivial, and my wife is angry meanwhile.

I just got an LG C1 and Yamaha RX-V6A, connected with HDMI eARC. I plugged AppleTV 4K to the Yamaha. I updated to the latest 1.48 firmware, and verified all Short Display settings 100 times

when I change volume during setup it shows on the bottom/top, but when I leave setup and it goes back to showing the video, volume no longer displays on screen when changed. It does show “Dolby vision” overlay for a couple of seconds.

I feel super awkward returning something for such a small bother, but it’s super annoying to the rest of the family..

Thanks!

 

[PENG]

Hi all,
I looked all over and saw no solution. It’s my first real sound setup so maybe im missing something trivial, and my wife is angry meanwhile.

I just got an LG C1 and Yamaha RX-V6A, connected with HDMI eARC. I plugged AppleTV 4K to the Yamaha. I updated to the latest 1.48 firmware, and verified all Short Display settings 100 times

when I change volume during setup it shows on the bottom/top, but when I leave setup and it goes back to showing the video, volume no longer displays on screen when changed. It does show “Dolby vision” overlay for a couple of seconds.

I feel super awkward returning something for such a small bother, but it’s super annoying to the rest of the family..

Thanks!

May be someone like @AcuDefTechGuy or @3db who are experienced with Yamaha's helped you figure it out. My guess is that you are right that it is just something trivial you missed, likely to do with the settings. If so, the quickest way to solve that is to do a factory reset.

 

[lovinthehd]

@Trebdp83 too

 

[Trebdp83]

There was another thread about on screen display issues with a Yamaha and one poster mentioned volume display not working when Dolby Vision was active on the RX-V6A twin TSR-700. My own RX-V6A has issues with overlay when HDR10+ is active on a Samsung TV. Haven’t tried it with Dolby Vision on the C1.

Yamaha RX-V4A Receiver - On Screen Volume display does not show up on TV when adjusting volume

Just bought this receiver a few days ago from local retailer. when i change the volume the volume goes up and down and mutes on the receiver screen, but for some reason does not on the TV. I have it set to "Short message" and "bottom" and while in the setup mode the volume shows up on the TV...

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[AcuDefTechGuy]

May be someone like @AcuDefTechGuy or @3db who are experienced with Yamaha's helped you figure it out. My guess is that you are right that it is just something trivial you missed, likely to do with the settings. If so, the quickest way to solve that is to do a factory reset.

I don't use eARC on anything. But I heard it might be the HDMI bandwidth setting. Might have to lower the HDMI bandwidth.

 

[Bobobo]

thanks all. I’ll test the Dolby vision disabling (isn’t that a big compromise?) - for the life of me I couldn’t find the setting. It is the same as disabling atmos

I don't use eARC on anything. But I heard it might be the HDMI bandwidth setting. Might have to lower the HDMI bandwidth.

In that case, how do you get sound from TV to rec? Or you simply don’t need one? Does the TV still know how to “wake up” if not using ARC?

Thanks

 

[lovinthehd]

At first reading I thought you were connected by eARC on the ATV thru the tv, as that would make sense why the overlay of volume wouldn't show (as the video is not coming thru the avr that way), but since you were talking about the ATV via the avr, that didn't make sense particularly that you couldn't get the overlay.....or is it tv based video that you're having the issue with?

FWIW I use no audio from a tv (all my audio/video sources are routed thru the avr)....and ARC didn't work well when I did try it with my first "smart" tv. I turn the tv on with a universal remote now, not via hdmi-cec....

 

[AcuDefTechGuy]

In that case, how do you get sound from TV to rec? Or you simply don’t need one? Does the TV still know how to “wake up” if not using ARC?
Thanks

FWIW I use no audio from a tv (all my audio/video sources are routed thru the avr)....and ARC didn't work well when I did try it with my first "smart" tv. I turn the tv on with a universal remote now, not via hdmi-cec....

Yeah I connect everything to my AVR. The AVR HDMI Outputs the Video to the TV, not audio.

 

[Trebdp83]

The overlay issue concerns devices connected directly to the receiver. To get the volume overlay back and still get HDR, go into the Video and Audio settings of the Apple TV 4K and change the format from 4K Dolby Vision to 4K HDR. Then, go to Match Content settings and turn off Match Dynamic Range so Dolby Vision content plays back in HDR10. Keep Match Frame Rate on. Now, you should see HDR displayed in the upper right corner of the TV screen instead of Dolby Vision and the volume adjustment overlay should return.

 

[Bobobo]

The overlay issue concerns devices connected directly to the receiver. To get the volume overlay back and still get HDR, go into the Video and Audio settings of the Apple TV 4K and change the format from 4K Dolby Vision to 4K HDR. Then, go to Match Content settings and turn off Match Dynamic Range so Dolby Vision content plays back in HDR10. Keep Match Frame Rate on. Now, you should see HDR displayed in the upper right corner of the TV screen instead of Dolby Vision and the volume adjustment overlay should return.

Thanks a bunch - will try that first thing when I get home.
isn’t sacrificing the Dolby Vision a big deal? Should I reach out to my retailer and ask for a different receiver?

I haven’t even connected my Xbox and now worried what comes next

 

[Trebdp83]

You may not see a difference in HDR content. But, HDR MOVIES @24Hz is one thing. Gaming in Dolby Vision @120Hz is another thing. If you are going to use an XBOX Series X, the Yamaha RX-V6A is not going to get the job fully done as it is capped at 24Gbps vs the 40Gbps that the XBOX Series X and LG C1 both have as their limit. Nobody is currently hitting the 48Gbps ceiling.

Yamaha HDMI 2.1 receivers capped to 24Gbps even after board replacement

A potentially game-breaking limitation

www.flatpanelshd.com

 

[Trebdp83]

Hooked up the Yamaha RX-V6A to the LG C1 TV today. With the Apple TV 4K set to Dolby Vision, volume adjustment overlay is not functional and Setup and Option menus behave as they do with HDR10+ on a Samsung TV and the screen goes to black as menus come up. The picture returns when the menus are turned off. That’s some bulls#%t! All works well when the Apple TV 4K is set to 4K HDR rather than Dolby Vision.

 

[Bobobo]

Hooked up the Yamaha RX-V6A to the LG C1 TV today. With the Apple TV 4K set to Dolby Vision, volume adjustment overlay is not functional and Setup and Option menus behave as they do with HDR10+ on a Samsung TV and the screen goes to black as menus come up. The picture returns when the menus are turned off. That’s some bulls#%t! All works well when the Apple TV 4K is set to 4K HDR rather than Dolby Vision.

Many thanks for checking and updating!
I tried what you said and indeed moving to HDR on my ATV solved the issue. Ha, I had no idea the setup menu was an overlay as well

So you’re saying that the HDR isn’t much of a sacrifice for movies? Was looking forward to see if the C1 was worth all the hype

I do have an Xbox series X. You’re saying I’m much better connecting it to the TV directly? Dang not sure I can manage that now after cabinet is done.

thanks again, I hope Yamaha will fix the Apple TV issue..

 

[Trebdp83]

I’ve not heard back from Yamaha about the Dolby Vision overlay issue. They said the HDR10+ overlay issue was normal behavior and there are no plans to remedy it. It is a non issue when connected to the LG C1 as it does not support HDR10+. I’m not holding out hope for the Dolby Vision issue.

“Cinema” is the “accurate” picture mode when setting up Dolby Vision playback on the LG C1. “Filmmaker Mode” is the “accurate” picture mode when using HDR10 but is not an option with Dolby Vision. Streaming any of the IMAX Enhanced titles from Marvel on Disney+ using the Apple TV 4K, I’m hesitant to say one format looked better than the other after going back and forth. The Yamaha has many faults, but passing an incredible picture to the C1 from an Apple TV 4K in Dolby Vision or HDR10 is not one of them.

Regarding gaming, the RX-V6A still waits for a firmware update to expand on gaming features. Though, the update will not get around the 24Gbps cap. Results will vary after the update with the different TV, console and cable combinations out there. There are quite a few settings to get right for it all to work properly.

If you are a 4K/UHD blu-ray disc fan, there are a couple of things to consider when using an XBOX Series X with the LG C1. The XBOX Series X supports Dolby Vision when playing games and streaming but not when playing 4K/UHD blu-ray discs. So, HDR10 will be output from Dolby Vision discs played through an XBOX Series X.

If connecting an XBOX Series X directly to the LG C1, blu-ray discs with DTS:X tracks will have their signal converted to multi channel PCM 7.1 in the TV for output via eARC as the LG C1 does not support DTS. The X metadata will not make it’s way to the receiver to be processed for object placement. The Dolby Surround and DTS Neural:X up mixers can be applied to the PCM signal and do what they can to get info to height speakers in a 5.1.2 configuration.

I have a love/hate relationship with the Yamaha RX-V6A. The little droid pisses me off but I keep it around to play music in another room. It enjoyed a brief moment connected to the LG C1 but I’m back to my Onkyo TX-NR6050. It supports overlay when passing HDR10+ and Dolby Vision to capable TVs. The coolest thing it does with overlay is change the color of the volume level bar on the TV when using different formats.Play HDR or SDR format and the bar is blue. Play Dolby Vision and the bar is Magenta. Hey, it’s the little things.

 

[3db]

I just got back from a 4 day stint at the trailer so I'm just seeing this now. I'm sadly out of date when it comes to the video side of an AVR capabilities. Since I do not game, I do not pay attention to the latest and greatest video processing as long as it passes 4K and it looks good. Personally, I don't want any overlay on my video including volume level unless I'm changing it. It shows up and disappears just the way I think it should.

 

[Trebdp83]

The issue with the Yamaha RX-V6A is that the volume adjustment pop up does not work when using Dolby Vision. The Settings menus also do not work properly with Dolby Vision and HDR10+. The screen will go black while using them rather than the image being visible behind them. It is not a big deal for some but a huge annoyance to others.