Warp's Build Thread...

[Warpdrv]

Where did you get the driver from...?
Congrats bro..... that will certainly be a step up in SQ and SPL from the Servo .v2, not that its a slouch by any stretch of the word... but it is slowly becoming a dated sub, and now is a good time to get your money out of it...

I promise you won't be dissapointed.

If you still have a chance to get a more powerful amp, I would suggest it, but you won't lose money on it if you were to sell it...
I just bought 2 of them for $500.00, I have yet to try it out on the TC-2000, but that will be soon enough..

 

[avaserfi]

It looks like this will be a sealed build. Ported would be better, but would take up more space than he has to offer right now. As far as amps go, I am not to sure of one that has significantly more power than the EP2500 while maintaing a decent price and high quality.

With regard to ported vs sealed subwoofers, yes, naturally they do have a different sound. This is due to ported subwoofers typically having extended bass response and a different roll off rate then sealed subs. For these reasons this is why sealed subwoofers are often called 'musical'. Now, with proper equalization this 'musical' nature of sealed subs can easily be replicated with a ported subwoofer. In such a circumstance the sealed 'sound' will be replicated while maintaining the higher SPL capabilities and extended bass response of ported design.

Of course, drivers such as the JL W7 series and these TC sound drivers represent a possible break to the mold. Due to their extreme linearity they are able to be put in smaller sealed enclosures and maintain a strong bass response even with equalization, the problem is large amplification needs. The cabinet I am designing for PDawg will require about 8kW to exceed its conservatively rated xmax at 10Hz and even more above that!!! Of course, even more efficiency would be had in a ported alignment, but it really isn't needed...it would just be cool.

 

[Warpdrv]

Agreed.... There aren't alot of amps out there that are as cheap and efficient as the EP2500. I guess it gets to a point when you go sealed, how much power the driver can take, and on the other side of the coin, you have to ask yourself, how much is enough.

I can vouch for the TC2000 that I level matched it and ended up turning the amp down to 3/4 gain and still have plenty of headroom available. So in effect you will never, ever breach the limits of what the TC3K is capable keeping it well within its limits, and never having to worry about compression with the EP2500. My point is that with more power and adding EQ to boost the low end will produce some scary linear results all the way down into the teens... Boosting with EQ to raise the low end requires power, which gets exhausted quickly. The low BL of these drivers is great for small enclosures, which is why the maelstrom has me intrigued, I am hoping the SQ is as good as the TC's.

Are you using MDF or Baltic Birch....? What size box, and how much bracing are you using.... Its a fun build, sealed...

Here is a sweet little cut sheet, I changed around a bit for the TC2K's, but its a nice efficient use of a full 4x8 sheet. This one is for the 18" Maelstrom-X, my second TC2K is under way, and I will be adding more bracing this time around, as I feel its lacking, and I personally don't ever mind the extra weight, but it doesn't need much.

I would love to see your design layout, could you post it up here... Its nice comparing notes with ya....

 

[Nuance AH]

and I will be adding more bracing this time around, as I feel its lacking, and I personally don't ever mind the extra weight, but it doesn't need much.

I hope my TC bracing isn't lacking...

 

[ParadigmDawg]

It's easy to tell if he braced it properly or not. Steal his BlackBerry and look at his calender. If he had a date the night he was finishing your box, it is not braced properly, If he didn't have a date, it is.

Either way, he will tell you he did it right and you will have no way of knowing so just smile and enjoy it!

I hope my TC bracing isn't lacking...

 

[Warpdrv]

I hope my TC bracing isn't lacking...

As you already know, I added in an extra brace from that cut sheet, as I felt the long runs to me were inadequate, but before you take it home, I plan on adding in another set of bracing for that rear panel, when I was running it hard I was examining to see if the box panels were flexing at all, and only the rear showed minimal signs of this, I would suggest they are completely inaudible, but I am still not happy, so steps will be taken. A very simple addition, so not to worry.

It's easy to tell if he braced it properly or not. Steal his BlackBerry and look at his calender. If he had a date the night he was finishing your box, it is not braced properly, If he didn't have a date, it is.

Either way, he will tell you he did it right and you will have no way of knowing so just smile and enjoy it!

Smart man whores leave no traces of any or all activity....

 

[Nuance AH]

It's easy to tell if he braced it properly or not. Steal his BlackBerry and look at his calender. If he had a date the night he was finishing your box, it is not braced properly, If he didn't have a date, it is.

Either way, he will tell you he did it right and you will have no way of knowing so just smile and enjoy it!

LMAO! Nice, very nice; had me laughing quite loudly.

 

[Nuance AH]

As you already know, I added in an extra brace from that cut sheet, as I felt the long runs to me were inadequate, but before you take it home, I plan on adding in another set of bracing for that rear panel, when I was running it hard I was examining to see if the box panels were flexing at all, and only the rear showed minimal signs of this, I would suggest they are completely inaudible, but I am still not happy, so steps will be taken. A very simple addition, so not to worry.

Cool, and I was just being silly. I know you'll take care of me. I sound gay...

I am glad it's not too much extra work; I want to take that sucker home soon and make sweet love to it! Wait...I never said that.

Smart man whores leave no traces of any or all activity....

LOL!

 

[Warpdrv]

Cool, and I was just being silly. I know you'll take care of me. I sound gay...

I want to take that sucker home soon and make sweet love to it!
LOL!

I have a feeling the wife and kids thing is just a cover....

 

[Nuance AH]

I have a feeling the wife and kids thing is just a cover....

sshhh! What did I tell you about keeping that between us?

 

[ParadigmDawg]

Get a room girls, get a room....

 

[Warpdrv]

Hey Dawg... where did you end up getting that TC-3000...?

Are there any more around...?

 

[avaserfi]

Parts express has the current incarnation of the TC3k the Axis 15". Here is the link: http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?Partnumber=293-622

He got it for half price though cause I am awesome...

 

[Warpdrv]

Parts express has the current incarnation of the TC3k the Axis 15". Here is the link: http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?Partnumber=293-622

He got it for half price though cause I am awesome...

Thats what I thought, I saw they had them for $350.00 last weekend, I should have sprung for a couple of them....

I think I might have enough drivers now though...

2 - SVS PB12 Plus/2's
1 - JL Audio F112
3 - 15" TC2000's
2 - 18" Maelstroms on the way...

 

[Nuance AH]

You're up early, warp. You working, same as me? Working hard...hardly working at all. You know...

 

[Warpdrv]

At work at 7 am.... Just about to leave to pick up tickets for the USS Freedom Christening downtown Milwaukee
An Old navy vet customer said he can't go and is giving me his tickets....
The thing does 40 knots.... almost 50mph.... holy ****
http://www.ussfreedom.org/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q98yrPKxmig

 

[Warpdrv]

Made some headway on box #2 in the last couple days, just finished sealing with silicone, and mounting the driver.... thought I would share some pics...

 

[Nuance AH]

Sweeeeeeeet! Dual 15's in the house! Well...along with quad 12's (3 SVS's and one JL Audio). Dude, you need more subs; wait, you're getting more!

 

[gus6464]

Hey warp did you use polyfill inside your boxes?

 

[Warpdrv]

No, I was told that polyfill is used to make the driver think its in a bigger box, If you make the box the right size for the driver, its not necessary.

I'm not totally sure what other properties adding fill accomplishes, so maybe someone can stop in here to explain the benefits or results.