This is all Benjamin Franklin's Fault

[lovinthehd]

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/24/us/politics/china-migrants-us-border.html

https://www.washingtonpost.com/immigration/interactive/2024/china-migrants-us-border-san-diego-new-york/

Highfigh probably has an interesting definition of msm.

 

[mtrycrafts]

I suspect this is made up.

ICE agent who shot Renee Nicole Good suffered internal bleeding, feds say

The federal immigration officer who fatally shot 37-year-old Renee Nicole Good experienced internal injuries, the Department of Homeland Security said.

www.usatoday.com

>>>Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey in a Jan. 9 interview with FOX said that Ross, "walked away with a hip injury that he might as well have gotten from closing a refrigerator door with his hips. Give me a break. No, he was not ran over. He walked out of there with a hop in his step."<<<

His fault. he could have stepped away further.

 

[GO-NAD!]

While comparing ICE with the Gestapo may be a bit hyperbolic, they certainly are mimicking the secret police tactics of various nasty regimes.

Key areas where ICE practices raise constitutional concerns:

• Fourth Amendment Violations: Courts have ruled that ICE agents violate this amendment by forcibly entering homes without a valid judicial warrant or consent, as administrative warrants (issued by ICE) do not hold the same authority as warrants from a judge.
• Wrongful Detentions: ICE has detained U.S. citizens and legal residents, with some reports citing over 170 citizens detained in immigration sweeps. Federal courts have ruled that detaining people based solely on flawed,, automated database checks violates Fourth Amendment rights.
• Due Process Concerns: The Fifth and 14th Amendments guarantee due process to both citizens and non-citizens. Concerns are frequently raised regarding the lack of timely hearings for detainees and the use of "expedited removal" processes.

Some comments on statements made in this thread:

While it can lead to deportation, it is not a crime to be in the US without authorization, it is a civil offense.

There were complaints made about illegal immigrants getting benefits. Well, the US treasury is making a profit off of them.

Yes, Undocumented Immigrants Pay Taxes—and Receive Few Tax Benefits

taxpolicycenter.org

It has been suggested that this is a left vs right debate. As far as I'm concerned, it's more of a debate on the rule of law and basic human decency.

Why not just "shut the border"? How would that work? Forty to fifty percent of people in the US illegally, actually arrived legally. They just stayed past the point they were required to leave.

Want them ALL out? What would be the consequences to the US economy if that actually happened?

Hey, it's not my country, so do what you want. But, it's disheartening to watch Trump and his minions attempting to create a dystopia next door.

 

[mtrycrafts]

While comparing ICE with the Gestapo may be a bit hyperbolic, they certainly are mimicking the secret police tactics of various nasty regimes.


Some comments on statements made in this thread:

While it can lead to deportation, it is not a crime to be in the US without authorization, it is a civil offense.

There were complaints made about illegal immigrants getting benefits. Well, the US treasury is making a profit off of them.

Yes, Undocumented Immigrants Pay Taxes—and Receive Few Tax Benefits

taxpolicycenter.org

It has been suggested that this is a left vs right debate. As far as I'm concerned, it's more of a debate on the rule of law and basic human decency.

Why not just "shut the border"? How would that work? Forty to fifty percent of people in the US illegally, actually arrived legally. They just stayed past the point they were required to leave.

Want them ALL out? What would be the consequences to the US economy if that actually happened?

Hey, it's not my country, so do what you want. But, it's disheartening to watch Trump and his minions attempting to create a dystopia next door.

It is certainly not a Cristian behavior. How quickly they abandon their bible.

 

[Kingnoob]

His fault. he could have stepped away further.

didn’t look like he was going to be ran over.
?

 

[GO-NAD!]

It is certainly not a Cristian behavior. How quickly they abandon their bible.

Indeed.

This, however, is Christian behaviour:

NH bishop urges clergy to meet the political moment, and ‘make sure they have their wills written’

Bishop Robert Hirschfeld pointed to instances throughout history when clergy members put their lives at risk to protect the vulnerable. He said a similar response could be warranted today.

www.nhpr.org

 

[highfigh]

Please reread my post. I didnt compare ICE to the Gestapo or Nazies. . I called the people who use ICE as KKK which they are. I called ICE improperly trained rednecks without a job, are more like unqualified unexperienced mercinaries ...

You skirted around question 2. Does Trump and ICE know the difference and recognoize the difference between legal refugees and illegal aliens. Yes or no ????
Question 4 was skirted as well. Do Reupblican states also not contain illegal aliens? If so why are there no ICE agents in their cities?

I dont understand your incesseant need to run to protect Trump and his administration and YOUR failure to recognize that Trump is a criminal, both by American laws and international law. He's a criminal.

I don't protect Trump but he is trying to deal with problems that need to be solved, in his ham-fisted ways.

How would you define KKK?

Again, if they came from several countries away from the US, they're not refugees.

I would assume illegals are in red states, especially the ones along the border. I know they're in Milwaukee and WI, but this is far from being a red city or state. Do you have info about where they're deployed?

 

[highfigh]

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/24/us/politics/china-migrants-us-border.html

https://www.washingtonpost.com/immigration/interactive/2024/china-migrants-us-border-san-diego-new-york/

I hadn't seen those, so thanks. I stand/sit corrected.

 

[GO-NAD!]

I hadn't seen those, so thanks. I stand/sit corrected.

No problemo.

 

[highfigh]

While comparing ICE with the Gestapo may be a bit hyperbolic, they certainly are mimicking the secret police tactics of various nasty regimes.

Some comments on statements made in this thread:

While it can lead to deportation, it is not a crime to be in the US without authorization, it is a civil offense.

Why not just "shut the border"? How would that work? Forty to fifty percent of people in the US illegally, actually arrived legally. They just stayed past the point they were required to leave.

Hey, it's not my country, so do what you want. But, it's disheartening to watch Trump and his minions attempting to create a dystopia next door.

If they're going door to door without warrants, the local government AND law enforcement should be making a legal stand against it and making a helluva l ot of noise about it.

Crossing a national border without authorization- if it would result in arrest in every country, how is it NOT illegal? Staying past that date IS illegal, everywhere.

Have you looked into the immigration laws in other countries? Many are more strict that in the US, but those countries are also much smaller, so easier to manage.

 

[mtrycrafts]

didn’t look like he was going to be ran over.
?

Yes, but he could have taken a few steps back just in case.

 

[William Lemmerhirt]

Yes, but he could have taken a few steps back just in case.

I would think he’d by on high alert. I know I would be. Especially considering he reportedly had 33 stitches in his leg from being dragged by another vehicle earlier in 2025. It’s also easy to be an arm chair quarterback. FWIW, her vehicle did make contact.

What I really wanna know is. Why these protestors aren’t storming the capitol, and the mayors office demanding the heads of the corrupt ring “leaders” that defrauded Minnesota and the taxpayers. Maybe they’ll get theirs in due time, but this would be a convenient smoke show to distract everyone from all of that.

 

[3db]

The Box cars will come later, but actually they are using planes on a large scale. They are leaving MSP regularly and no information on who is aboard, and flight tracker finds it hard to know the destinations.

There is a massive operation here in Eagan, Inver Grove heights and West St. Paul. There is a continuous stream of sirens past our house right how. The intersection of our Road, Westcott Road and Dodd Road is blocked off and many others including Dodd and Yankee Doodle and highway 55.

This is very close to our house what you see above, in easy walking distance.

This is a disgrace and it looks like a good imitation of Gestapo to me.

All these Ice Agents look like thugs. There are all masked and you only see their eyes.

The Federal Prosecutors for Minnesota all resigned enmasse yesterday. They are all experienced and really good guys. Their stated reason was being asked to conduct illegal prosecutions and worse.

Wake up guys this is bad. It should not be tolerated. There are request on local social media to leave the Union, with joining Canada being the preferred exit route. This is not allowed under the US Constitution. There is fear that Trump may Federalize the Minnesota Home Guard. With the temperature here that would be a very dangerous step.

I agree with you that this bad, especially whose constitution fights for people's rights and freedom. Still that constitution part needs to be fixed that even the POTUS can be charged while in office. That is your only safe guard to prevent the BS that is happening in your country.

 

[3db]

I suspect this is made up.

ICE agent who shot Renee Nicole Good suffered internal bleeding, feds say

The federal immigration officer who fatally shot 37-year-old Renee Nicole Good experienced internal injuries, the Department of Homeland Security said.

www.usatoday.com

>>>Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey in a Jan. 9 interview with FOX said that Ross, "walked away with a hip injury that he might as well have gotten from closing a refrigerator door with his hips. Give me a break. No, he was not ran over. He walked out of there with a hop in his step."<<<

Yeah that's made up. If it were true, its too bad he didn't bleed out.

 

[3db]

Yes, but he could have taken a few steps back just in case.

This goes to what I've been saying about ICE. Improperly trained rednecks who have been given authority and want to play mercenary. From the footage I've seen, they are NOT trained to deescalate a situation. Just a bunch of fu?ktards doing f?ckardry headed by biatch that shoots dogs for pleasure and her boss, the clan head of the KKK for the US.

 

[3db]

I would think he’d by on high alert. I know I would be. Especially considering he reportedly had 33 stitches in his leg from being dragged by another vehicle earlier in 2025. It’s also easy to be an arm chair quarterback. FWIW, her vehicle did make contact.

What I really wanna know is. Why these protestors aren’t storming the capitol, and the mayors office demanding the heads of the corrupt ring “leaders” that defrauded Minnesota and the taxpayers. Maybe they’ll get theirs in due time, but this would be a convenient smoke show to distract everyone from all of that.

Yep, one hardly heares about Epstein right now. Its part of Trumps team to take that attention away from him. Unfortunately for you Trump, elephants don't forget and this will come back to squash your arrogant self serving ass into the dirt where you belong.

 

[3db]

Again, if they came from several countries away from the US, they're not refugees.

I would assume illegals are in red states, especially the ones along the border. I know they're in Milwaukee and WI, but this is far from being a red city or state. Do you have info about where they're deployed?

Proove it!!

 

[3db]

Well Fukk you too.

I'm agreeing with you that this ICE escalation is smoke screen meaded out by Trump's team. There was no where in that post that I was attacking you. WTF??

 

[William Lemmerhirt]

I'm agreeing with you that this ICE escalation is smoke screen meedout by Trump's team. There was no where in that post that I was attacking you. WTF??

Ok my bad. The last sentence uses the word “you”. I assumed that was pointed.
I will edit my post accordingly.
Apologies.

 

[3db]

Ok my bad. The last sentence uses the word “you”. I assumed that was pointed.
I will edit my post accordingly.
Apologies.

I was talking to Trump but I guess that wasn't clear.