This is all Benjamin Franklin's Fault

[lovinthehd]

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/24/us/politics/china-migrants-us-border.html

https://www.washingtonpost.com/immigration/interactive/2024/china-migrants-us-border-san-diego-new-york/

Highfigh probably has an interesting definition of msm.

 

[mtrycrafts]

I suspect this is made up.

ICE agent who shot Renee Nicole Good suffered internal bleeding, feds say

The federal immigration officer who fatally shot 37-year-old Renee Nicole Good experienced internal injuries, the Department of Homeland Security said.

www.usatoday.com

>>>Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey in a Jan. 9 interview with FOX said that Ross, "walked away with a hip injury that he might as well have gotten from closing a refrigerator door with his hips. Give me a break. No, he was not ran over. He walked out of there with a hop in his step."<<<

His fault. he could have stepped away further.

 

[GO-NAD!]

While comparing ICE with the Gestapo may be a bit hyperbolic, they certainly are mimicking the secret police tactics of various nasty regimes.

Key areas where ICE practices raise constitutional concerns:

• Fourth Amendment Violations: Courts have ruled that ICE agents violate this amendment by forcibly entering homes without a valid judicial warrant or consent, as administrative warrants (issued by ICE) do not hold the same authority as warrants from a judge.
• Wrongful Detentions: ICE has detained U.S. citizens and legal residents, with some reports citing over 170 citizens detained in immigration sweeps. Federal courts have ruled that detaining people based solely on flawed,, automated database checks violates Fourth Amendment rights.
• Due Process Concerns: The Fifth and 14th Amendments guarantee due process to both citizens and non-citizens. Concerns are frequently raised regarding the lack of timely hearings for detainees and the use of "expedited removal" processes.

Some comments on statements made in this thread:

While it can lead to deportation, it is not a crime to be in the US without authorization, it is a civil offense.

There were complaints made about illegal immigrants getting benefits. Well, the US treasury is making a profit off of them.

Yes, Undocumented Immigrants Pay Taxes—and Receive Few Tax Benefits

taxpolicycenter.org

It has been suggested that this is a left vs right debate. As far as I'm concerned, it's more of a debate on the rule of law and basic human decency.

Why not just "shut the border"? How would that work? Forty to fifty percent of people in the US illegally, actually arrived legally. They just stayed past the point they were required to leave.

Want them ALL out? What would be the consequences to the US economy if that actually happened?

Hey, it's not my country, so do what you want. But, it's disheartening to watch Trump and his minions attempting to create a dystopia next door.

 

[mtrycrafts]

While comparing ICE with the Gestapo may be a bit hyperbolic, they certainly are mimicking the secret police tactics of various nasty regimes.


Some comments on statements made in this thread:

While it can lead to deportation, it is not a crime to be in the US without authorization, it is a civil offense.

There were complaints made about illegal immigrants getting benefits. Well, the US treasury is making a profit off of them.

Yes, Undocumented Immigrants Pay Taxes—and Receive Few Tax Benefits

taxpolicycenter.org

It has been suggested that this is a left vs right debate. As far as I'm concerned, it's more of a debate on the rule of law and basic human decency.

Why not just "shut the border"? How would that work? Forty to fifty percent of people in the US illegally, actually arrived legally. They just stayed past the point they were required to leave.

Want them ALL out? What would be the consequences to the US economy if that actually happened?

Hey, it's not my country, so do what you want. But, it's disheartening to watch Trump and his minions attempting to create a dystopia next door.

It is certainly not a Cristian behavior. How quickly they abandon their bible.

 

[Kingnoob]

His fault. he could have stepped away further.

didn’t look like he was going to be ran over.
?

 

[GO-NAD!]

It is certainly not a Cristian behavior. How quickly they abandon their bible.

Indeed.

This, however, is Christian behaviour:

NH bishop urges clergy to meet the political moment, and ‘make sure they have their wills written’

Bishop Robert Hirschfeld pointed to instances throughout history when clergy members put their lives at risk to protect the vulnerable. He said a similar response could be warranted today.

www.nhpr.org

 

[highfigh]

Please reread my post. I didnt compare ICE to the Gestapo or Nazies. . I called the people who use ICE as KKK which they are. I called ICE improperly trained rednecks without a job, are more like unqualified unexperienced mercinaries ...

You skirted around question 2. Does Trump and ICE know the difference and recognoize the difference between legal refugees and illegal aliens. Yes or no ????
Question 4 was skirted as well. Do Reupblican states also not contain illegal aliens? If so why are there no ICE agents in their cities?

I dont understand your incesseant need to run to protect Trump and his administration and YOUR failure to recognize that Trump is a criminal, both by American laws and international law. He's a criminal.

I don't protect Trump but he is trying to deal with problems that need to be solved, in his ham-fisted ways.

How would you define KKK?

Again, if they came from several countries away from the US, they're not refugees.

I would assume illegals are in red states, especially the ones along the border. I know they're in Milwaukee and WI, but this is far from being a red city or state. Do you have info about where they're deployed?

 

[highfigh]

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/24/us/politics/china-migrants-us-border.html

https://www.washingtonpost.com/immigration/interactive/2024/china-migrants-us-border-san-diego-new-york/

I hadn't seen those, so thanks. I stand/sit corrected.

 

[GO-NAD!]

I hadn't seen those, so thanks. I stand/sit corrected.

No problemo.

 

[highfigh]

While comparing ICE with the Gestapo may be a bit hyperbolic, they certainly are mimicking the secret police tactics of various nasty regimes.

Some comments on statements made in this thread:

While it can lead to deportation, it is not a crime to be in the US without authorization, it is a civil offense.

Why not just "shut the border"? How would that work? Forty to fifty percent of people in the US illegally, actually arrived legally. They just stayed past the point they were required to leave.

Hey, it's not my country, so do what you want. But, it's disheartening to watch Trump and his minions attempting to create a dystopia next door.

If they're going door to door without warrants, the local government AND law enforcement should be making a legal stand against it and making a helluva l ot of noise about it.

Crossing a national border without authorization- if it would result in arrest in every country, how is it NOT illegal? Staying past that date IS illegal, everywhere.

Have you looked into the immigration laws in other countries? Many are more strict that in the US, but those countries are also much smaller, so easier to manage.

 

[mtrycrafts]

didn’t look like he was going to be ran over.
?

Yes, but he could have taken a few steps back just in case.