
Eppie
Audioholic Ninja
Unboxing Founders series speakers at Paulson's Audio and Video. That midnight cherry looks gorgeous.
The Premier 800F is listed at $1250 each Canadian. If you are looking at bookshelves as well, the new Founder 40B is listed at $1300 Cdn each and could be a great step up. Paired with a good sub-woofer the 40B should sound very good. The Founder towers, though, start at $2250 so no comparison in price. Some people are trading in or selling their Studio towers, so a used Studio 60 or 100 would also be a significant improvement. Not knocking the Premier. It's still a very good speaker and since the Prestige line is now discontinued the Premier is the next step down from Founder and would definitely sound a lot better than the old Monitor series. Stalag2005 who started this thread owns the Premier 800F.Oh man, I've got about 15 year old Monitor 7 v6 towers that I'm trading in next week for KEF R3 bookshelves. I'm doing a little covid retail therapy and it seemed like a good idea. Should I reconsider the Premier 800F instead? I wish it was possible to go places other than Best Buy to listen to stuff in this day and age...
Yeah, the PB1000 Pro seems like the clear best choice for the budget, tho at least the X12 does come with a mic and ARC so it's not more expensive just for the sake of it.Think I ruled out the X10. Only goes down to 29Hz with extension to 24. The X12 is twice the price of a PB-1000 Pro but the SVS goes 3 Hz deeper. The Paradigm does include a mic and Anthem Room Correction app which would be handy. The Paradigms rarely go on sale though.
(Edit: With the PB-1000 I'm also more likely to get a second one down the road. Can get two PB-1000 for the cost of an X12.)
Yup, if going up against KEF R3s I'd think you'd want to move up to the Founder series. KEF's R series are reportedly very good speakers. I'd take a higher quality bookshelf for the same money as a tower from a lower series if using with a sub or 3.The Premier 800F is listed at $1250 each Canadian. If you are looking at bookshelves as well, the new Founder 40B is listed at $1300 Cdn each and could be a great step up. Paired with a good sub-woofer the 40B should sound very good. The Founder towers, though, start at $2250 so no comparison in price. Some people are trading in or selling their Studio towers, so a used Studio 60 or 100 would also be a significant improvement. Not knocking the Premier. It's still a very good speaker and since the Prestige line is now discontinued the Premier is the next step down from Founder and would definitely sound a lot better than the old Monitor series. Stalag2005 who started this thread owns the Premier 800F.
I've been considering spending the extra $300 for a sealed SB 2000 Pro and then getting a Umik mic. The PB 2000 is physically too large for my space, but if we move a 2000 Pro should still be fine in a bigger room. I'm not that concerned about the extra extension and pressurization that a ported sub offers. I know you like themYeah, the PB1000 Pro seems like the clear best choice for the budget, tho at least the X12 does come with a mic and ARC so it's not more expensive just for the sake of it.
The Revel M16 are better IMHO after I listened to them than the Kef R3.Yup, if going up against KEF R3s I'd think you'd want to move up to the Founder series. KEF's R series are reportedly very good speakers. I'd take a higher quality bookshelf for the same money as a tower from a lower series if using with a sub or 3.
Paradigm's don't go on sale, but I work with two different authorized dealers and you should never pay MSRP. Not sure your location, but if you are interested in Paradigm I can give you the names. Note: I am not compensated, nor do I have any affiliation with either dealer, neither is my normal guy. I did however get a killer deal on my Persona 3Fs and Center Channel.Think I ruled out the X10. Only goes down to 29Hz with extension to 24. The X12 is twice the price of a PB-1000 Pro but the SVS goes 3 Hz deeper. The Paradigm does include a mic and Anthem Room Correction app which would be handy. The Paradigms rarely go on sale though.
(Edit: With the PB-1000 I'm also more likely to get a second one down the road. Can get two PB-1000 for the cost of an X12.)
I'm in London but willing to drive to the GTA or Windsor. Some great stores in Vancouver and Montreal but that's too far.Paradigm's don't go on sale, but I work with two different authorized dealers and you should never pay MSRP. Not sure your location, but if you are interested in Paradigm I can give you the names. Note: I am not compensated, nor do I have any affiliation with either dealer, neither is my normal guy. I did however get a killer deal on my Persona 3Fs and Center Channel.
My bad, I am in the US, but I am sure you would have some wiggle room to negotiate at a dealer at least 15-20%.I'm in London but willing to drive to the GTA or Windsor. Some great stores in Vancouver and Montreal but that's too far.![]()
Thanks for offering.My bad, I am in the US, but I am sure you would have some wiggle room to negotiate at a dealer at least 15-20%.
The woofers are x12 defiance speakersAnd a shout out to @Pogre for some serious Paradigm woofage.These are the Founder 120F with powered woofers and I believe those are Persona subs. Some serious cake invested in that system.
More images on AVS forums in the Paradigm thread:
https://www.avsforum.com/threads/paradigm-owners-thread.559431/page-2008
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I should have checked the web page first. Personas are completely different. The upper centre pin for the grills indicates that those are actually Defiance X15 sub woofers. Woof indeed!The woofers are x12 defiance speakers
I was closer than you initially…..but the x15 are impressiveI should have checked the web page first. Personas are completely different. The upper centre pin for the grills indicates that those are actually Defiance X15 sub woofers. Woof indeed!