I’m definitely a fan of this series of klipsch which is surprising, because i never thought I’d like them based on hearing older (harsher) speakers they’ve been known for. 8000f is probably one of the best sounding speakers for the money.\n\nI did my SXS comparison of the 8000f and the svs pinnacles and needless to say, after several hours of A\/B comparing with very familiar material. Different toe in angles and different seating positions (all in direct mode) both prime and 8000f balanced with an spl meter and I’m totally not impressed with the pinnacles. Their sound has a hole in it somewhere, similar to the Polk RTI A line. Picture looking at a speaker while listening to it and feeling like it’s completely missing a driver somewhere.... Very odd.\n\nI’ve heard worse for the money.... but come on. 1600 a pair is way high for what it offers. At least IMHO.\n\nFor a 2 way design the klipsch had much better mids, clearer and cleaner treble and even though the bass is rated at 29 hz on the pinnacles, the 8000f hits much harder and feels like it digs deeper. 8000f sounds cleaner\/more detailed overall.\n\nOne thing I did notice about the prime pinnacle is that the tweeter actually sits below ear level while sitting on an average height couch (sectional) in my case. When I set the pinnacles up and toed them in where i wanted, I closed my eyes and the music was center but not quite the same as the 8000f.\n\nHowever, with the pinnacles it sounded like i was sitting above the band. As if i were sitting high up in the bleachers looking down at them. The music sounded beneath me. I didn’t care for that effect. The 8000f sounded as if the band was playing directly in front of me. Which to me was much better. Price to performance goes to the 8000f hands down. Even with movies the Klipsch really shined. Svs was better at movies than it was for music. Still not as good as the 8000f. The 8000f did both equally well. I was fortunate enough to catch them on sale for less than 1100 a pair with free shipping. I sent the pinnacles back and ordered a matching Rp-504c center which comes tomorrow.\nI usually blow through speakers (buy\/sell) but I have a good feeling about these. At least for a little while anyway....\n\nJust thought I’d share my thoughts and opinions. I’m no expert in this hobby. However, I do play guitar and have a knack for how things should sound. BTW The walnut finish on these 8000f’s is gorgeous!