Pogre Audioholic Slumlord Jul 29, 2016 16,146 0 113 56 Mesa, Arizona Jul 1, 2017 #61 William Lemmerhirt said: I'd say only with active XO networks is this even worth it. Believe it or not, and I don't believe svs is one, but some speakers with dual posts are connected inside the cabinet! FAKE! Almost like .2 sub outs. Except those are useful... Click to expand... Omg. Well I've had one of my Ultras apart so I know they're legitimately bi-ampable (at least passively). Agree with everything you typed. If you're gonna bi amp, active is the way to do it. I'm not one to tear out the crossovers in my beautifully designed and nicely balanced speaker. One of these days tho, I could see me building a set of speakers somewhere down the road. I think it'd be pretty cool to make a pair from the ground up with intentions of actively bi amping.
William Lemmerhirt said: I'd say only with active XO networks is this even worth it. Believe it or not, and I don't believe svs is one, but some speakers with dual posts are connected inside the cabinet! FAKE! Almost like .2 sub outs. Except those are useful... Click to expand... Omg. Well I've had one of my Ultras apart so I know they're legitimately bi-ampable (at least passively). Agree with everything you typed. If you're gonna bi amp, active is the way to do it. I'm not one to tear out the crossovers in my beautifully designed and nicely balanced speaker. One of these days tho, I could see me building a set of speakers somewhere down the road. I think it'd be pretty cool to make a pair from the ground up with intentions of actively bi amping.
William Lemmerhirt Audioholic Overlord Jan 8, 2017 12,005 0 113 52 Jul 1, 2017 #62 Hetfield said: Yeah I actually now that I think about it saw an Audioholics video from Gene about this subject. He said very minimal and not detectable different but he said biamping sometimes can make some difference. I think that wouldn't be worth the trouble though. 2 amp, more money, more cable, more pain in the butt wiring. Only if it made a huge difference would I go that route either Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk Click to expand... I agree. If it was a big difference it could be worth the investment. I don't have dual posts so I don't care. Lol.
Hetfield said: Yeah I actually now that I think about it saw an Audioholics video from Gene about this subject. He said very minimal and not detectable different but he said biamping sometimes can make some difference. I think that wouldn't be worth the trouble though. 2 amp, more money, more cable, more pain in the butt wiring. Only if it made a huge difference would I go that route either Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk Click to expand... I agree. If it was a big difference it could be worth the investment. I don't have dual posts so I don't care. Lol.
William Lemmerhirt Audioholic Overlord Jan 8, 2017 12,005 0 113 52 Jul 1, 2017 #63 Pogre said: Omg. Well I've had one of my Ultras apart so I know they're legitimately bi-ampable (at least passively). Agree with everything you typed. If you're gonna bi amp, active is the way to do it. I'm not one to tear out the crossovers in my beautifully designed and nicely balanced speaker. One of these days tho, I could see me building a set of speakers somewhere down the road. I think it'd be pretty cool to make a pair from the ground up with intentions of actively bi amping. Click to expand... This has been a point of interest to me too. Maybe when I'm 80 I'll find the time. And money, lol. Diy had the potential for cost effectiveness but I know I'd end up way over the top. Lol.
Pogre said: Omg. Well I've had one of my Ultras apart so I know they're legitimately bi-ampable (at least passively). Agree with everything you typed. If you're gonna bi amp, active is the way to do it. I'm not one to tear out the crossovers in my beautifully designed and nicely balanced speaker. One of these days tho, I could see me building a set of speakers somewhere down the road. I think it'd be pretty cool to make a pair from the ground up with intentions of actively bi amping. Click to expand... This has been a point of interest to me too. Maybe when I'm 80 I'll find the time. And money, lol. Diy had the potential for cost effectiveness but I know I'd end up way over the top. Lol.
H Hetfield Audioholic Samurai Nov 23, 2016 2,781 0 63 50 Jul 1, 2017 #64 William Lemmerhirt said: I agree. If it was a big difference it could be worth the investment. I don't have dual posts so I don't care. Lol. Click to expand... I have them on my Definitive Technology SM 65s mains and center channel but I always that it was just something to satisfy a small percentage of buyers. My SM 55 surrounds have them to now that I'm looking at them. Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk
William Lemmerhirt said: I agree. If it was a big difference it could be worth the investment. I don't have dual posts so I don't care. Lol. Click to expand... I have them on my Definitive Technology SM 65s mains and center channel but I always that it was just something to satisfy a small percentage of buyers. My SM 55 surrounds have them to now that I'm looking at them. Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk
Pogre Audioholic Slumlord Jul 29, 2016 16,146 0 113 56 Mesa, Arizona Jul 1, 2017 #65 A legitimate use for the second set of binding posts on a bi wireable speaker! They're not going anywhere. I was able to tie it to just the right tension so both sets of cables are all holding some of the weight. I'll get those ends trimmed up and capped, then maybe slice up a black work shirt and make a sock to hide the wires. Reactions: KEW
A legitimate use for the second set of binding posts on a bi wireable speaker! They're not going anywhere. I was able to tie it to just the right tension so both sets of cables are all holding some of the weight. I'll get those ends trimmed up and capped, then maybe slice up a black work shirt and make a sock to hide the wires.
H Hetfield Audioholic Samurai Nov 23, 2016 2,781 0 63 50 Jul 1, 2017 #66 Pogre said: A legitimate use for the second set of binding posts on a bi wireable speaker! View attachment 21511 View attachment 21510 They're not going anywhere. I was able to tie it to just the right tension so both sets of cables are all holding some of the weight. I'll get those ends trimmed up and capped, then maybe slice up a black work shirt and make a sock to hide the wires. Click to expand... Very innovative as usually, very nice. I'll put this under things I would have never thought of. [emoji3] Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk Reactions: Pogre
Pogre said: A legitimate use for the second set of binding posts on a bi wireable speaker! View attachment 21511 View attachment 21510 They're not going anywhere. I was able to tie it to just the right tension so both sets of cables are all holding some of the weight. I'll get those ends trimmed up and capped, then maybe slice up a black work shirt and make a sock to hide the wires. Click to expand... Very innovative as usually, very nice. I'll put this under things I would have never thought of. [emoji3] Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk
Pogre Audioholic Slumlord Jul 29, 2016 16,146 0 113 56 Mesa, Arizona Jul 1, 2017 #67 Hetfield said: Very innovative as usually, very nice. I'll put this under things I would have never thought of. [emoji3] Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk Click to expand... Thanks het, but it really was kind of a group effort. @KEW suggested it and HD and Liam kinda joked the second set of posts into an idea. I swear, these will be the last pics. Little bit of hillbilly engineering on my "socks", but I seriously doubt anyone but me will notice. I'm pretty happy with the results.
Hetfield said: Very innovative as usually, very nice. I'll put this under things I would have never thought of. [emoji3] Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk Click to expand... Thanks het, but it really was kind of a group effort. @KEW suggested it and HD and Liam kinda joked the second set of posts into an idea. I swear, these will be the last pics. Little bit of hillbilly engineering on my "socks", but I seriously doubt anyone but me will notice. I'm pretty happy with the results.
H Hetfield Audioholic Samurai Nov 23, 2016 2,781 0 63 50 Jul 1, 2017 #68 Pogre said: Thanks het, but it really was kind of a group effort. @KEW suggested it and HD and Liam kinda joked the second set of posts into an idea. I swear, these will be the last pics. View attachment 21512View attachment 21513 View attachment 21515 Little bit of hillbilly engineering on my "socks", but I seriously doubt anyone but me will notice. I'm pretty happy with the results. Click to expand... Well I like how it looks now. Probably sound great. I'm having trouble getting this trigger thing to work from the Parasound amp. I think I hooked it up right and I can't find anything in the menu of the Yamaha to get it going. Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk Reactions: Pogre
Pogre said: Thanks het, but it really was kind of a group effort. @KEW suggested it and HD and Liam kinda joked the second set of posts into an idea. I swear, these will be the last pics. View attachment 21512View attachment 21513 View attachment 21515 Little bit of hillbilly engineering on my "socks", but I seriously doubt anyone but me will notice. I'm pretty happy with the results. Click to expand... Well I like how it looks now. Probably sound great. I'm having trouble getting this trigger thing to work from the Parasound amp. I think I hooked it up right and I can't find anything in the menu of the Yamaha to get it going. Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk
Pogre Audioholic Slumlord Jul 29, 2016 16,146 0 113 56 Mesa, Arizona Jul 1, 2017 #69 Thanks. I love it when a simple idea works so well. You'd have to really try to knock them off their perches now. It's better too because the ports are at the top of the speakers . When I had them upside down the ports were almost right up against the wall. Right side up with the steeper tilt, now they have some breathing room. I don't have much for advice on your trigger issues. I just plugged in the wire at both ends and it works.
Thanks. I love it when a simple idea works so well. You'd have to really try to knock them off their perches now. It's better too because the ports are at the top of the speakers . When I had them upside down the ports were almost right up against the wall. Right side up with the steeper tilt, now they have some breathing room. I don't have much for advice on your trigger issues. I just plugged in the wire at both ends and it works.
H Hetfield Audioholic Samurai Nov 23, 2016 2,781 0 63 50 Jul 1, 2017 #70 Pogre said: Thanks. I love it when a simple idea works so well. You'd have to really try to knock them off their perches now. It's better too because the ports are at the top of the speakers . When I had them upside down the ports were almost right up against the wall. Right side up with the steeper tilt, now they have some breathing room. I don't have much for advice on your trigger issues. I just plugged in the wire at both ends and it works. Click to expand... Yeah your lucky. I guess newer amps have 3.5 mm jacks. Mine has the two little screws deal. Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk
Pogre said: Thanks. I love it when a simple idea works so well. You'd have to really try to knock them off their perches now. It's better too because the ports are at the top of the speakers . When I had them upside down the ports were almost right up against the wall. Right side up with the steeper tilt, now they have some breathing room. I don't have much for advice on your trigger issues. I just plugged in the wire at both ends and it works. Click to expand... Yeah your lucky. I guess newer amps have 3.5 mm jacks. Mine has the two little screws deal. Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk
Pogre Audioholic Slumlord Jul 29, 2016 16,146 0 113 56 Mesa, Arizona Jul 1, 2017 #71 Hetfield said: Yeah your lucky. I guess newer amps have 3.5 mm jacks. Mine has the two little screws deal. Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk Click to expand... Ah, I didn't know that. This is the first amp I've owned. I assumed they all came with the 3.5 mm jack. My receiver has one too. Easy peasy.
Hetfield said: Yeah your lucky. I guess newer amps have 3.5 mm jacks. Mine has the two little screws deal. Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk Click to expand... Ah, I didn't know that. This is the first amp I've owned. I assumed they all came with the 3.5 mm jack. My receiver has one too. Easy peasy.
H Hetfield Audioholic Samurai Nov 23, 2016 2,781 0 63 50 Jul 1, 2017 #72 Pogre said: Ah, I didn't know that. This is the first amp I've owned. I assumed they all came with the 3.5 mm jack. My receiver has one too. Easy peasy. Click to expand... Nice, and lucky you. I'll figure it out I guess. Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk
Pogre said: Ah, I didn't know that. This is the first amp I've owned. I assumed they all came with the 3.5 mm jack. My receiver has one too. Easy peasy. Click to expand... Nice, and lucky you. I'll figure it out I guess. Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk
H Hetfield Audioholic Samurai Nov 23, 2016 2,781 0 63 50 Jul 1, 2017 #73 Just figured it out. Was something so stupid it's embarrassing actually. Works now and it's wonderful! Oh this is so nice! Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk Reactions: Pogre
Just figured it out. Was something so stupid it's embarrassing actually. Works now and it's wonderful! Oh this is so nice! Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk
lovinthehd Audioholic Jedi Sep 11, 2012 44,872 0 113 Oakridge, OR Jul 1, 2017 #74 Hetfield said: Just figured it out. Was something so stupid it's embarrassing actually. Works now and it's wonderful! Oh this is so nice! Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk Click to expand... Reversed the pos/neg? Fess up!
Hetfield said: Just figured it out. Was something so stupid it's embarrassing actually. Works now and it's wonderful! Oh this is so nice! Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk Click to expand... Reversed the pos/neg? Fess up!
H Hetfield Audioholic Samurai Nov 23, 2016 2,781 0 63 50 Jul 1, 2017 #75 lovinthehd said: Reversed the pos/neg? Fess up! Click to expand... No even dumber than that. Didn't realize the little white thing inside was a wire. Duh, how dumb is that! [emoji45] Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk
lovinthehd said: Reversed the pos/neg? Fess up! Click to expand... No even dumber than that. Didn't realize the little white thing inside was a wire. Duh, how dumb is that! [emoji45] Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk
lovinthehd Audioholic Jedi Sep 11, 2012 44,872 0 113 Oakridge, OR Jul 1, 2017 #76 Hetfield said: No even dumber than that. Didn't realize the little white thing inside was a wire. Duh, how dumb is that! [emoji45] Sent from my stupid Pixel using flapapapatalk Click to expand... Little white thing inside what?
Hetfield said: No even dumber than that. Didn't realize the little white thing inside was a wire. Duh, how dumb is that! [emoji45] Sent from my stupid Pixel using flapapapatalk Click to expand... Little white thing inside what?
H Hetfield Audioholic Samurai Nov 23, 2016 2,781 0 63 50 Jul 1, 2017 #77 Well when you cut the end off and then strip it there is copper inside that you need to twist together, then there is like a second little white with that you need to strip also. That makes the two wires you need to strip. One positive, one negative. Once I stripped both I was good to go. Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk
Well when you cut the end off and then strip it there is copper inside that you need to twist together, then there is like a second little white with that you need to strip also. That makes the two wires you need to strip. One positive, one negative. Once I stripped both I was good to go. Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk
lovinthehd Audioholic Jedi Sep 11, 2012 44,872 0 113 Oakridge, OR Jul 1, 2017 #78 Hetfield said: Well when you cut the end off and then strip it there is copper inside that you need to twist together, then there is like a second little white with that you need to strip also. That makes the two wires you need to strip. One positive, one negative. Once I stripped both I was good to go. Look at me, I have a Pixel using Tapatalk Click to expand... Thanks, wasn't sure you meant the second wire in the cable or not.... Reactions: KEW and Pogre
Hetfield said: Well when you cut the end off and then strip it there is copper inside that you need to twist together, then there is like a second little white with that you need to strip also. That makes the two wires you need to strip. One positive, one negative. Once I stripped both I was good to go. Look at me, I have a Pixel using Tapatalk Click to expand... Thanks, wasn't sure you meant the second wire in the cable or not....
Pogre Audioholic Slumlord Jul 29, 2016 16,146 0 113 56 Mesa, Arizona Jul 1, 2017 #79 Hetfield said: Just figured it out. Was something so stupid it's embarrassing actually. Works now and it's wonderful! Oh this is so nice! Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk Click to expand... Hey man, I've embarrassed myself on the forums before... what was it? *Edit: I see you fessed up, lol. Didn't refresh the page before I replied. That was a good one!
Hetfield said: Just figured it out. Was something so stupid it's embarrassing actually. Works now and it's wonderful! Oh this is so nice! Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk Click to expand... Hey man, I've embarrassed myself on the forums before... what was it? *Edit: I see you fessed up, lol. Didn't refresh the page before I replied. That was a good one!
H Hetfield Audioholic Samurai Nov 23, 2016 2,781 0 63 50 Jul 1, 2017 #80 Pogre said: Hey man, I've embarrassed myself on the forums before... what was it? *Edit: I see you fessed up, lol. Didn't refresh the page before I replied. That was a good one! Click to expand... It happens to us all. No one is perfect and I'm very far from an audio engineer. If I didn't know how to drive a truck and do road repair work I'd be living in a van down by the river. [emoji3] Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk Reactions: Pogre
Pogre said: Hey man, I've embarrassed myself on the forums before... what was it? *Edit: I see you fessed up, lol. Didn't refresh the page before I replied. That was a good one! Click to expand... It happens to us all. No one is perfect and I'm very far from an audio engineer. If I didn't know how to drive a truck and do road repair work I'd be living in a van down by the river. [emoji3] Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk
