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mtrot
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Thanks for the replies, can anyone comment on my question above about running one 20 amp line and one 15 amp line, as well as the question about phase? And the price estimate for the work? Thanks.
I don't think I've ever used any other Romex. If you jump on either Home Depot's or Lowes' websites and search for Romex, it will come up with Southwire as their brand of choice right away. I suppose there are other manufacturers, but it's kind of like Monoprice.... why go elsewhere if it's quality stuff and priced competitively?That's 12AWG/2 + Safety Ground
The best NM (Non Metallic) cable is SouthWire brand Romex®
Yes, I see I can get 250 feet of Southwire 12/2 at Home Depot for $55.I don't think I've ever used any other Romex. If you jump on either Home Depot's or Lowes' websites and search for Romex, it will come up with Southwire as their brand of choice right away. I suppose there are other manufacturers, but it's kind of like Monoprice.... why go elsewhere if it's quality stuff and priced competitively?
I always thought electrical wiring nomenclature was weird. 12/2 is actually three wires (hot/neutral/ground), while 12/3 is actually 4 wires (hot/return/neutral/ground)
Not sure I got the terms exactly right as it turns out... I'm still not an electrician. But, the last electrician I used couldn't figure out how to get the 4-way wiring working right in my home, so I just do it all myself. Way easier than figuring out this AV stuff! Just a tiny bit more dangerous.
Go to the store, find a 20A outlet and buy it.Update:
Well, color me happy! I finally got two dedicated 20 amp lines run, during our recent kitchen remodel. No fancy breakers or outlets, just standard stuff that they ran. The new breaker has not any problem when I power on the Krell amp. The previous circuit had a lot of the lights and plugs in the kitchen area on it.
There is unquestionably an improvement in audio quality. The sound has more immediacy, and is more clear, and impactful. Transients such as drum shots are sharper and more defined. And high frequency sounds such as cymbals seem to sound more "real" and natural. And, no, it's not expectation or confirmation bias, lol. I'm always very skeptical about audio quality improvement from making changes or getting new equipment, because I don't want to be wasting money.
Not sure I understand your comment. They did install 20 amp outlets on the two lines.Go to the store, find a 20A outlet and buy it.
These aren't designed to provide better sound, they're designed to conduct current and deliver power. Big difference. There's nothing that an outlet can do to improve the sound.
IIRC, there is usually a tighter fit or grip with many of the "higher end" receptacles to make certain that whatever you are plugging in is not loose in any way. This is especially true of these labeled as Hospital grade... again IIRC.The only difference between a top shelf 15 & 20 Amp dual receptacle is the plastic cover plate. All the internal metal current carrying parts are the same.
If you don't have a 20 Amp plug, you don't need a 20 Amp receptacle.
Your thread title is "Quality outlet for dedicated 20 amp line?"- I read your last post, not the whole thread.Not sure I understand your comment. They did install 20 amp outlets on the two lines.
20A receptacles aren't supposed to be installed on 15A circuits. If something with a true 20A plug is connected, it could overload and overheat the circuit.IIRC, there is usually a tighter fit or grip with many of the "higher end" receptacles to make certain that whatever you are plugging in is not loose in any way. This is especially true of these labeled as Hospital grade... again IIRC.
I do agree that there is no magic component that alters the flow of electricity, though.
¿Que?20A receptacles aren't supposed to be installed on 15A circuits. If something with a true 20A plug is connected, it could overload and overheat the circuit.
What's not clear?¿Que?
You quoted my post responding to a comment about what might be different between common household outlets, and more premium outlets. Nowhere did I discuss use of 15a or 20a outlets on lines other than what they are meant to be attached to.What's not clear?
15A outlet and 15A plug
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20A plug doesn't work in a 15A circuit unless someone installs the second type of outlet (which isn't dedicated to 20A use)- it can't fit into a 15A outlet. The only reason the second outlet can accept a 15A plug is for convenience- code doesn't allow using a higher amperage device in a lower amperage outlet/circuit.
Points for using the inverted ?, though.
I musta been havin' one o' my spells.....my mind clearly wanted to reply to mtrot after seeing the title, but my hands didn't want to play along.You quoted my post responding to a comment about what might be different between common household outlets, and more premium outlets. Nowhere did I discuss use of 15a or 20a outlets on lines other than what they are meant to be attached to.
That’s why I’m confused by your quoting me.