Petition to ban political threads

[racquetman]

When was the last time you heard a new, valid political point?

When was the last time you heard a new, valid point about a speaker or a cable?????!!!!!

 

[tbewick]

'And statistics and information in general can be exploited so rediculously, the real truth is almost never known. Maybe we should start a post teaching a college statistics course, learn about SRS's, data exploitation, and all that other junk, and then have a discussion. Then the posts might actually accomplish something, instead of just going back and forth about how each other's information isn't correct.' - Hanse18

That sounds a bit cynical. I'd say it all depends on how well you argue your case. Most of the time the threads seem to reach a concensus. I've certainly learned quite a lot by using this forum. To add another irritating signature/quote - 'Conflict is the engine of progress' - Karl Marx.

As for the political threads, most of the time I'm too lazy to look at them. I can't think of any good reason to ban them.

 

[mikemorrow]

Me to. Lets just Go into the garage, listen to the 1976 Pinto radio, and have a beer

 

[highfihoney]

well, im all for political discussions as long as everybody keeps their heads,we just had a discussion a few weeks back & nobody got hurt feelings,atleast i didnt, i had fun discussing terrorists & such & it wasnt boring,whats the harm in it

sometimes you gotta just say TO H*!! WITH IT & stir up the pot to keep things lively,unless everybody would prefer the audiogon thread format where everybody discusses the new innertube they put under their amp & how much better it made everything sound or my personal favorite thread,whats your favorite patricia barber album,YAWN.

 

[furrycute]

I vote to ban all religious/political discussions from the steam vent.

 

[Audioholics]

I vote to ban all people in the steam vent.. oh wait, I mean I vote to ban all people voting to ban all people and topics discussing voting in the steam vent.... or rather people voting to ban religious discussion and voting topics in the steam vent should be banned posthumously and vigorously and then banned. In either case, we're definitely interested in banning all bans of banning persons who discuss banning religious and political discussions in the steam vent provided they are discussing the banning of such topics without the act of banning being part of the discussion.

 

[furrycute]

I vote to ban all people in the steam vent.. oh wait, I mean I vote to ban all people voting to ban all people and topics discussing voting in the steam vent.... or rather people voting to ban religious discussion and voting topics in the steam vent should be banned posthumously and vigorously and then banned. In either case, we're definitely interested in banning all bans of banning persons who discuss banning religious and political discussions in the steam vent provided they are discussing the banning of such topics without the act of banning being part of the discussion.

 

[Mr. Lamb Fries]

I vote to ban Clint for...voting to ban all people in the steam vent.. oh wait, I mean I vote to ban all people voting to ban all people and topics discussing voting in the steam vent.... or rather people voting to ban religious discussion and voting topics in the steam vent should be banned posthumously and vigorously and then banned. In either case, we're definitely interested in banning all bans of banning persons who discuss banning religious and political discussions in the steam vent provided they are discussing the banning of such topics without the act of banning being part of the discussion.

 

[Matt34]

Ban 'em all!













Me included of course.

 

[mulester7]

I vote to ban all people in the steam vent.. oh wait, I mean I vote to ban all people voting to ban all people and topics discussing voting in the steam vent.... or rather people voting to ban religious discussion and voting topics in the steam vent should be banned posthumously and vigorously and then banned. In either case, we're definitely interested in banning all bans of banning persons who discuss banning religious and political discussions in the steam vent provided they are discussing the banning of such topics without the act of banning being part of the discussion.

.....I read (red) all the way through this and passed out cold.....

 

[furrycute]

I vote to ban Clint...


Now he can ban me.

 

[Hi Ho]

I see no problem with political threads and I personally find them to be very interesting. As long as they stay in the Steam Vent, I see no reason to ban them.

 

[Sheep]

I see no problem with political threads and I personally find them to be very interesting. As long as they stay in the Steam Vent, I see no reason to ban them.

I think you meant to say "As long as they stay UNDER CONTROL..."

I voted yes because they always get out of hand. Why take the risk..?

SheepStar

 

[Buckeyefan 1]

So far the "no's" have it, 23 to 18.

I have to apologize, as this thread is most likely due to my political thread. I was meaning to elaborate on that thread, but didn't get a chance to because it got out of hand. I should have titled the thread Hate Rock and not labeled them conservatives.

The reason for that thread was a show I watched on Discovery Times about Hate Rock. Did anyone see it? Excellent documentary. It just goes to show (and maybe these guys are mislabeled "far right") that if something gets too far out on the wing, it could be bad.

"Investigative reporter Donal MacIntyre explores the disturbing rise ofthe racist and anti-semitic music industry across North America andEurope. MacIntyre discovers 'hate rock' music is attracting youngpeople and has ties to ultra right wing movements."


http://times.discovery.com/tvlistings/series.jsp?series=116363&gid=0&channel=DTC

 

[MacManNM]

So far the "no's" have it, 23 to 18.

I have to apologize, as this thread is most likely due to my political thread. I was meaning to elaborate on that thread, but didn't get a chance to because it got out of hand. I should have titled the thread Hate Rock and not labeled them conservatives.

The reason for that thread was a show I watched on Discovery Times about Hate Rock. Did anyone see it? Excellent documentary. It just goes to show (and maybe these guys are mislabeled "far right") that if something gets too far out on the wing, it could be bad.

"Investigative reporter Donal MacIntyre explores the disturbing rise ofthe racist and anti-semitic music industry across North America andEurope. MacIntyre discovers 'hate rock' music is attracting youngpeople and has ties to ultra right wing movements."


http://times.discovery.com/tvlistings/series.jsp?series=116363&gid=0&channel=DTC

There are reasons for this far right and far left behavior. I look at it like this, my wife is really easy on our kids, and she doesn’t discipline them much. It drives me nuts. So I end up going overboard, and being too hard on them. Is it their fault? No, it’s mine, but my actions are a direct result of my wife’s behavior. It’s the same way with politics. I work pretty hard, and I make a good wage. But I am penalized for succeeding. The top 20% of income earners in this country pay 80% of the taxes. I get pissed because I’m supporting the lower income families. On that note, they want to raise minimum wage to $7 an hr here in NM. What a joke, the argument is that if you make minimum wage, you can’t support a family. Well guess what? Minimum wage is for entry-level people with no skill. If you want to support a family then go to school and learn a trade. People like me, are not only footing the bill for the taxes, now I am going to end up paying $5 for a cheeseburger.

This is the kind of thing that pushes my party farther right. In turn, the other side goes farther left to compensate. If this country went back to what the founding fathers intended, everything would be fine.

You are guaranteed the right to pursue happiness.

You are not guaranteed a house, a job, healthcare, food stamps, a free ride or happiness.

 

[furrycute]

The top 20% of income earners in this country pay 80% of the taxes.

The top 1% of income earners hardly pay any taxes at all. They literally have legions of accountants that are constantly looking for tax loopholes, and the tax laws are written in their favor because of their political connections.

And don't forget, the top 1% of income earners in this country probably hold about 60% of this nation's wealth. That can hardly be called "balanced."

It is really the middle class America with annual incomes between $80K and $200K that are bearing the brunt of America's tax burden.



And the recently enacted tax cuts for the super rich, they literally ate away the budget surplus accumulated in the Clinton years. It's obscene.

 

[sts9fan]

I work pretty hard, and I make a good wage. But I am penalized for succeeding. The top 20% of income earners in this country pay 80% of the taxes. I get pissed because I’m supporting the lower income families. On that note, they want to raise minimum wage to $7 an hr here in NM. What a joke, the argument is that if you make minimum wage, you can’t support a family. Well guess what? Minimum wage is for entry-level people with no skill. If you want to support a family then go to school and learn a trade. People like me, are not only footing the bill for the taxes, now I am going to end up paying $5 for a cheeseburger.

This is the kind of thing that pushes my party farther right. In turn, the other side goes farther left to compensate. If this country went back to what the founding fathers intended, everything would be fine.

You are guaranteed the right to pursue happiness.

You are not guaranteed a house, a job, healthcare, food stamps, a free ride or happiness.

Not that you care (for anyone but yourself) but you are a bad person. You are against raising the minuimum wage to $7 so you can get a burger for under $5??? That is disgusting! The fact is that not everyone can get a high paying job and there will be poor people needing the help of the more fortunate. I make a good living and I am glad that my taxes go to helping these people!! You really should think of others more not jsut yourself and your ratass brood which I am sure you are raising to be as much a pox on this country as you are. You do not know what the founding fathers intended and nither do I. Nobody does because times change and saying you or Rush does know just makes you look like the fool you are.
You want to know what happens without the social programs we have?? We get slums like Rio or Sao Palo. Then we get street childern (which we know you don't care about) living out of landfills. The street childern become live long criminals and then people start getting shot in the street for a $2 burger. We could always start up death squads like in Romania and Brazil which I am sure you would join right up..
Do you really think that you can live in the nice area you do without the help of the government?

Karma B!tches

 

[MacManNM]

The top 1% of income earners hardly pay any taxes at all. They literally have legions of accountants that are constantly looking for tax loopholes, and the tax laws are written in their favor because of their political connections.

And don't forget, the top 1% of income earners in this country probably hold about 60% of this nation's wealth. That can hardly be called "balanced."

It is really the middle class America with annual incomes between $80K and $200K that are bearing the brunt of America's tax burden.



And the recently enacted tax cuts for the super rich, they literally ate away the budget surplus accumulated in the Clinton years. It's obscene.

Yes and people that make between 0-40k actually get paid by the government. How is this fair? This is why we need a flat tax. Budget surplus? Please, no such thing. The national debt means absolutely nothing. It’s a political term used during elections, that’s it. Look, everyone needs to realize that the government is not run by politicians, but by lobbyists. The sooner we stop this, the better off we are. Do you really think it makes a damn bit of difference who is in office? You get there by making promises, all the while you are scheming with the big corporate guys, and as soon as you get elected, you take care of the corporations, and screw the people. They ALL do it, Democrats, Republicans, and Independents, all of them.

 

[sts9fan]

Flat tax is a bit Socialist don't you think?? Don't want to be called a Pinko do ya??

 

[MacManNM]

Not that you care (for anyone but yourself) but you are a bad person. You are against raising the minuimum wage to $7 so you can get a burger for under $5??? That is disgusting! The fact is that not everyone can get a high paying job and there will be poor people needing the help of the more fortunate. I make a good living and I am glad that my taxes go to helping these people!! You really should think of others more not jsut yourself and your ratass brood which I am sure you are raising to be as much a pox on this country as you are. You do not know what the founding fathers intended and nither do I. Nobody does because times change and saying you or Rush does know just makes you look like the fool you are.
You want to know what happens without the social programs we have?? We get slums like Rio or Sao Palo. Then we get street childern (which we know you don't care about) living out of landfills. The street childern become live long criminals and then people start getting shot in the street for a $2 burger. We could always start up death squads like in Romania and Brazil which I am sure you would join right up..
Do you really think that you can live in the nice area you do without the help of the government?

Karma B!tches

If you want to help others then go ahead, why should I have to? You want to keep crime down? Then lets make prison like it used to be, commit a crime go to jail, you only eat if one of your family or friends brings you food. See what happens to the crime rate then. You libs are too nice. I worked my way up from nothing, I educated myself, I worked and got where I am today by myself. No help form anyone. If I can do it then so can anyone. Get off your high horse. You don't know what it's like searching for things to sell, or looking in the street for change so you can buy milk for the kids. I do, and I got out of it.