Paradigm 100v4 with receiver, or amp and receiver?

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Jleis14

Junior Audioholic
Hey all,

just spent the last hour reading through threads and didn’t find exactly what I was looking for. I have paradigm 100v4 towers with a def tech center, surround towers, and a Martin Logan sub. I’m currently running a denon avr-1912. When I listened to the paradigms in store they sounded so much better than mine at home. I have no experience with using an amp and a receiver. Those of you who have these speakers or have knowledge in this area would be of great help. One guy at a local shop recommended an Anthem receiver with no amp. Some threads folks said hands down get an amp and a receiver for the best sound. I’d rather just get one high end receiver and call it a day, but if you all say buying an amp really helps the speakers blow your socks off, I’m in.
Thanks!
 
mazersteven

mazersteven

Audioholic Spartan
I do like the Idea of using an External Amp for the 100's. But Placement and Room Acoustics are more important IMO. Have you played with Set-Up and Placement?

You do need to find a Matching Center Channel
 
J

Jleis14

Junior Audioholic
I do like the Idea of using an External Amp for the 100's. But Placement and Room Acoustics are more important IMO. Have you played with Set-Up and Placement?
Not too much. I really need to research all the settings and options to keep it on. I’m a bit overwhelmed with all the different choices and not knowing which one is best. The room is fairly small, so there isn’t much room to move them around. Right now they sit to the left and right of the tv. I’d love to know if I’m getting all I can get out of my current receiver. But either way, a receiver that pushes more watts out can only sound better, right?
 
J

Jleis14

Junior Audioholic
Pictures?
Ill take some tomorrow.
Also you said to find a matching center channel. Does that make that big of a difference? I figured a high quality center would work well with other high quality speakers.
 
mazersteven

mazersteven

Audioholic Spartan
Ill take some tomorrow.
Also you said to find a matching center channel. Does that make that big of a difference? I figured a high quality center would work well with other high quality speakers.
Absolutely makes a Difference. Your Front 3 should be the same.
 
J

Jleis14

Junior Audioholic
Absolutely makes a Difference. Your Front 3 should be the same.
Looks like I’ll be in search for a paradigm center tomorrow! Haha. I’m assuming it doesn’t have to be the same model? But the same brand? Only reason I ask is I feel it will be hard to find the matching center as these aren’t that new.
 
mazersteven

mazersteven

Audioholic Spartan
Looks like I’ll be in search for a paradigm center tomorrow! Haha. I’m assuming it doesn’t have to be the same model? But the same brand?
It is a Studio 100 V4 right?

Same Studio V4 center or a Studio 20 V4
 
lovinthehd

lovinthehd

Seriously, I have no life.
Not too much. I really need to research all the settings and options to keep it on. I’m a bit overwhelmed with all the different choices and not knowing which one is best. The room is fairly small, so there isn’t much room to move them around. Right now they sit to the left and right of the tv. I’d love to know if I’m getting all I can get out of my current receiver. But either way, a receiver that pushes more watts out can only sound better, right?
A higher capability amp may be in order but really depends on the specifics of the levels you listen at, the distance you are from the speakers, the sensitivity of your speakers, etc. Try using this spl calculator to get an idea/an estimate of your needs http://myhometheater.homestead.com/splcalculator.html
 
slipperybidness

slipperybidness

Audioholic Spartan
Hey all,

just spent the last hour reading through threads and didn’t find exactly what I was looking for. I have paradigm 100v4 towers with a def tech center, surround towers, and a Martin Logan sub. I’m currently running a denon avr-1912. When I listened to the paradigms in store they sounded so much better than mine at home. I have no experience with using an amp and a receiver. Those of you who have these speakers or have knowledge in this area would be of great help. One guy at a local shop recommended an Anthem receiver with no amp. Some threads folks said hands down get an amp and a receiver for the best sound. I’d rather just get one high end receiver and call it a day, but if you all say buying an amp really helps the speakers blow your socks off, I’m in.
Thanks!
What is the exact complaint on the Paradigms?

If you can describe what is lacking, it will make it easier to get the proper recommendation on how to fix it.
 
J

Jleis14

Junior Audioholic
What is the exact complaint on the Paradigms?

If you can describe what is lacking, it will make it easier to get the proper recommendation on how to fix it.
According to my local home theater store specialist that has new pradigms on display and to listen to said that the older ones I have are better speakers than what he has in store. Except when I listen at his store and listen at home, his sound better. He said his are connected to a anthem receiver and that if I replace my Denon with a anthem mine will sounds better. So I started doing some research on here and found some people recommend a whole separate amp for the speakers and then still having a high quality receiver.
I’m wanting to hear what other people who have had paradigms recommend. I don’t fully understand what makes a receiver make the speakers sound good other than proper watts.
 
P

PENG

Audioholic Slumlord
According to my local home theater store specialist that has new pradigms on display and to listen to said that the older ones I have are better speakers than what he has in store. Except when I listen at his store and listen at home, his sound better. He said his are connected to a anthem receiver and that if I replace my Denon with a anthem mine will sounds better. So I started doing some research on here and found some people recommend a whole separate amp for the speakers and then still having a high quality receiver.
I’m wanting to hear what other people who have had paradigms recommend. I don’t fully understand what makes a receiver make the speakers sound good other than proper watts.
Please do what HD suggested first and we'll take a look. You can't compare the perceived sound quality with that you remember when auditioning in the store/dealer because of so many other factors such as room acoustics, media source, players used, listening level etc. Even if the conditions were the same, though that wouldn't be possible, you still cannot compare because of humans very poor auditory memory in such scenario, expectation bias and Placebo effects.

If the V4's impedance and phase angle characteristics are similar to that of the V3, then it could be considered a demanding load but again, you need to figure it out first using the linked calculator.

Regardless, the talks of using an Anthem AVR with no amp is pure baseless speculation. Also, if the calculator indicated you need more power, you do have to replace your AVR with one that has pre-outs.
 
J

Jleis14

Junior Audioholic
Please do what HD suggested first and we'll take a look. You can't compare the perceived sound quality with that you remember when auditioning in the store/dealer because of so many other factors such as room acoustics, media source, players used, listening level etc. Even if the conditions were the same, though that wouldn't be possible, you still cannot compare because of humans very poor auditory memory in such scenario, expectation bias and Placebo effects.

If the V4's impedance and phase angle characteristics are similar to that of the V3, then it could be considered a demanding load but again, you need to figure it out first using the linked calculator.

Regardless, the talks of using an Anthem AVR with no amp is pure baseless speculation. Also, if the calculator indicated you need more power, you do have to replace your AVR with one that has pre-outs.
when I get home I’ll take pictures of the setup and post them.

I’ll post what the calculator says as well.

I need to research pre-outs so I understand what that helps with. I’m in multiple car forums so I understand the frustration behind new members and obvious questions so I appreciate the advice and patience. I’m coming from a soundbar so this is all a lot of lingo and information that I’m taking in.
 
J

Jleis14

Junior Audioholic
Well I’m trying to upload the pictures that I took on my iPhone and it says the server can’t handle the size. How do you all make the size of the picture small enough on a iPhone to post on here?
 
lovinthehd

lovinthehd

Seriously, I have no life.
Well I’m trying to upload the pictures that I took on my iPhone and it says the server can’t handle the size. How do you all make the size of the picture small enough on a iPhone to post on here?
Might try tapatalk for phone convenience.....generally I just resize my pics on my pc before trying to upload.
 
mazersteven

mazersteven

Audioholic Spartan
^ I knew you were the most Experienced with Small
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J

Jleis14

Junior Audioholic






Thanks for the advice! Never heard of tapatalk but it works.

I know it’s a mess right now but I’m in the process of organizing and moving stuff around so the basement is way out of sorts.

I did some searching on Facebook marketplace to locate a pradigm center to match it with the speakers and then get rid of my def tech. I found a cc-570 v3. It’s not the v4 like my towers but I figure it would work better as it’s the same brand.


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mazersteven

mazersteven

Audioholic Spartan
You need to spread those Tower out. I see a Door to the Left. I can't see what to the Right of the TV. But you need to change things up in there
 

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