On Trump

[Trell]

Again there's no realistic way to regulate healthcare claims/denials based on diet and lifestyle unless the person is open about it. That I'm aware of. That's what I was getting at. Life long smoker the signs would be there.

And his "So, just give up on getting people to try to be more healthy?" is a straw man as countries with universal healthcare tries hard to improve diet and lifestyle of the population but for sure that is not easy.

He just doesn't want universal healthcare that is proven to cost much less and give much better health outcome for the general population. The statistics are there for all to see but he just ignores that, like so many others, with much unnecessarily premature deaths and suffering as a result.

 

[Trell]

I’m looking forward to his execution.

>>>"As soon as I am inaugurated, I will direct the Justice Department to vigorously pursue the death penalty to protect American families and children from violent rapists, murderers, and monsters," Trump said.<<<

 

[Alex2507]

He must be doing something right, then.

He can do no wrong.

 

[Dude#1279435]

lol. . .damn. . .181 pages on Trump? He must be doing something right, then.

He can do no wrong.

Guess if being an a$$hole is one of the qualities you like about him.

 

[TankTop5]

I guess people with healthy diets don't get sick, then we can afford it.

I think addressing mental health would do more to reduce illness overall and diet would naturally follow

 

[mtrycrafts]

I think addressing mental health would do more to reduce illness overall and diet would naturally follow

Easier said than done. Like we do such a great job today.

 

[trochetier]

Or, it's all AI now.

Politicians have had artificial (in the original sense) intelligence forever and increasingly so. They cannot even pass a budget!

 

[mtrycrafts]

Politicians have had artificial (in the original sense) intelligence forever and increasingly so. They cannot even pass a budget!

That might be more than intelligence.

 

[TankTop5]

Easier said than done. Like we do such a great job today.

I recently had a very good friend develop paranoid schizophrenia (runs in his family) and I had the pleasure of taking him to the nuthouse hoping they would at least get him medicated and in his right mind. They agreed to keep him for an extended stay but apparently it’s illegal to medicate the clinically insane against their will. They are are completely batshit crazy and it’s against the law to get them in their right minds nd so that they can make a decision on if they want to be sane or insane. I get that there’s arguments on both sides of this but common sense tells me getting someone to a point that they can somewhat think straight to make an informed decision about their mental health is probably a good idea.

 

[Alex2507]

if being an a$$hole is one of the qualities you like

They taste like chicken.

 

[GO-NAD!]

Jeff, Jeff, Jeff....

"Tried" is doing a lot of heavy lifting here.

 

[Mr._Clark]

I recently had a very good friend develop paranoid schizophrenia (runs in his family) and I had the pleasure of taking him to the nuthouse hoping they would at least get him medicated and in his right mind. They agreed to keep him for an extended stay but apparently it’s illegal to medicate the clinically insane against their will. They are are completely batshit crazy and it’s against the law to get them in their right minds nd so that they can make a decision on if they want to be sane or insane. I get that there’s arguments on both sides of this but common sense tells me getting someone to a point that they can somewhat think straight to make an informed decision about their mental health is probably a good idea.

In theory it might be possible to get a court order allowing medication against the person's will:

>>>Every State provides avenues through which, for example, a doctor or institution can seek appointment of a guardian with the power to make a decision authorizing medication-when in the best interests of a patient who lacks the mental competence to make such a decision. E. g., Ala. Code §§26-2A-102(a), 26-2A105, 26-2A-108 (West 1992); Alaska Stat. §§ 13.26.105(a), 13.26.116(b) (2002); Ariz. Rev. Stat. Ann. §§ 14-5303, 14-5312 (West 1995); Ark. Code Ann. §§ 28-65-205,28-65-301 (1987). And courts, in civil proceedings, may authorize involuntary medication where the patient's failure to accept treatment threatens injury to the patient or others. See, e. g., 28 CFR § 549.43 (2002); cf. 18 U. S. C. § 4246.<<<

https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/539/166/#top

There's no guarantee of success in court, of course, but the right to refuse medication is not an absolute right.