Need help selecting a new AVR

[TLS Guy]

How would someone break an AVP?

Sound United was a vanity purchase by someone who had n experience with that kind of business. While someone can do what they want with their own money, this isn't a single item, it was major players in the consumer audio/video industry.

Uh, re-read your post if you want to see a good example of 'lack of self control', BTW.

Yes, that pretty much sums it up.

 

[AcuDefTechGuy]

How would someone break an AVP?

Oh, people can break ANYTHING.

I’ve seen people plugging wires/cables to their AVP from their amps while the amps were powered on. And end up having to send their Marantz in for repair.

Sound United was a vanity purchase by someone who had no experience with that kind of business.

Bryston started out as a medical device manufacturer also.

So Bryston might have inspired the Masimo guy.

But like you said, SU was way too much to handle.

If SU were just B&W speakers and Classe Amps, Masimo might have succeeded. Who knows.

 

[Alex2507]

If you keep this up, I will make a formal complaint to the mods.

I did.

#Me Too

He made it from my ignore list to my eff him list.

 

[William Lemmerhirt]

I think he's related to Trell.

Nah. Trell is related to. Dung heap.
And in his defense, Treb has lots of valuable info on interoperability and compatibility of components.

 

[highfigh]

Oh, people can break ANYTHING.

I’ve seen people plugging wires/cables to their AVP from their amps while the amps were powered on. And end up having to send their Marantz in for repair.



Bryston started out as a medical device manufacturer also.

So Bryston might have inspired the Masimo guy.

But like you said, SU was way too much to handle.

If SU were just B&W speakers and Classe Amps, Masimo might have succeeded. Who knows.

Trust me, I know people can blow up anything but Mark knows how to connect equipment. I meant "How can someone blow up an AVP under normal conditions and use?".

But Bryston was created before so much changed in manufacturing, the market and the world.

I don't know if he could have succeeded with just those two brands- not sure the global market for them is large enough but SU definitely wouldn't have lost as much as they did under his ownership.

 

[AcuDefTechGuy]

Trust me, I know people can blow up anything but Mark knows how to connect equipment. I meant "How can someone blow up an AVP under normal conditions and use?"

Not likely. But not 100% IMPOSSIBLE.

Someone ELSE could have tampered (abnormal conditions and use) without TLS’s knowledge. Still not likely, but again not 100% IMPOSSIBLE.

Let’s look at it another way.

What’s are the ODDS of ONE person having TWO broken AVP’s in the “same time” period? That seems extremely unlucky. I would say the odds are low.

So not likely, but not 100% IMPOSSIBLE.

I do NOT think TLS “broke” his AVP. But I am not 100% sure nobody else ever “touched” his 2 AVPs.

Anyway, this thread has gotten off course.

Good choices for the OP:
Denon X3800, X4800, X6800
Yamaha RX-A6A

 

[moves]

Please, go play with your AV10 and shut the f#%k up.

All this is valid info he's not hijacking the thread! Your useless posts are cluttering though.

 

[moves]

If you keep this up, I will make a formal complaint to the mods.

In choosing a receiver the problems created for Sound United by Masimo are extremely germane to the topic at hand. The CEO of Harmon, the new owners, highlighted their supply chain issues as a top priority to address as hifigh has also stated.

I did not break those AV 7705 and 7706. There failure was due to substandard components. Marantz did not have parts to service my 7705 for the length of time required by law. So it went to the recycling center.

I still have not had my 7706 returned but have been informed it has been sent to an outfit in the State of Kansas.

Both the 7705 and 7706 were rack mounted with tons of room for air flow and ventilation in a room with a controlled environment.

This house has all surge requirements as per NEC24, the latest codes.

Each of my three racks have professional APC UPS units which tightly regulate over and under voltage, with soft shut down in the event of power loss. Nothing was connected to them, that could have even under the remotest possibility caused them damage. So your comments are slanderous.

These units failed because of substandard components.

This is all germaine and relevant to the OPs original question.

My advice is not to purchase a receiver or pre/pro made under the Sound United ownership unless it was made in the Denon factory in Shirakawa Japan until the units under new management start to come on line.

Dude, TLS Guy knows what he's talking about. He's helped me a few times in the past and is a legend on this forum. Give him a break.

 

[moves]

Wait. So has the OP mentioned about which AVR Receiver he is getting?

haha probably the Denon route. I like TLS guy's advice to avoid vietnamese and china brands. so likely the 4800.

 

[everettT]

haha probably the Denon route. I like TLS guy's advice to avoid vietnamese and china brands. so likely the 4800.

I'm not sure if you're interested in used but you can find the Denon AVR-A1H for just a few hundred dollars more than a new 4800. I have the 4800 in one of my setups and have never had any issues with it and have been satisfied.

 

[Trebdp83]

Dude, TLS Guy knows what he's talking about. He's helped me a few times in the past and is a legend on this forum. Give him a break.

I'll always yield to and respond to the OP of a given thread. I'm also a person of limited patience for propaganda and plain old bulls#%t. There are some on this forum who may admit to having shouted "Shut the f#%k up!" to a loved one for any number of reasons after their nerves were shot and their patience limit reached. It is an easier thing to do to an insufferable stranger concerning their vehement denunciation of AVRs. Some pride themselves with having the best of the best systems and are very quick to brag about it and condemn lesser systems by others consisting of AVRs. They are just as quick to throw themselves on the floor and cry like a selfish brat when their toys break and they are embarrassed and humiliated by the event.

I've used many Denon/Marantz AVRs over the years. Some were made in Japan, some made elsewhere. I've also used a few Onkyos, a Pioneer and a couple of Yamaha AVRs. None of them failed, though one was returned for behavior I found glitchy. Often, misplacement, misuse or a misconnection of components to an AVP/AVR will result in its failure.

 

[AcuDefTechGuy]

So are there any reasons to get the X6800 over the X4800 if you only have 9 speakers?

Is the X4800 “better” than the Yamaha RX-A6A?