Need advice on New Speaker Upgrade

KEW

KEW

Audioholic Overlord
I would look at classifieds too for pre-owned. A lot of times you can get more expensive speakers at much cheaper prices. A lot of times people just want to get rid of their speakers for a huge loss.

About a year ago I sold my Philharmonic 3 speakers (upgraded with Mahogany Piano Gloss finish) for about $1900/pr.
I think I would replace "A lot of times" with "On rare occasion".
As you put it after selling them:
SOLD. :D

Man, I am just selling my loudspeakers like hotcakes. :eek:

Must be giving people awesome deals they just can't refuse. :D
http://forums.audioholics.com/forums/threads/philharmonic-3-piano-gloss-mahogany.90793/#post-1037399

You made some people very happy with your speaker sales!

I think most people look at the sale price as representing a significant chunk of the budget for their upgrade/replacements and aren't quite so quick to take heavy losses. But then, they are only selling one pair of speakers at a time!
 
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Brooks Moore

Enthusiast
The philharmonics look like they sound fantastic, but I don't have enough space or charisma to sell my wife in those bad boys. I do like the idea of buying better products slowly instead of buying everything all at once and spreading my budget thin. However, that being said, I would like to propose a hypocritical idea.

I listened to the paradigm monitor series, and some discontinued studios they had again today. I've come to like the "paradigm sound". I will more than likely go in that direction. Which helps narrow my speaker selection quite a bit. Sooooo, should I spend all my budget in the prestige series, and get new subs in a few years? Or should I stick with the monitor series, and get 2 svs sb-1000s to upgrade my subs at the same time? Just some ideas, and I'm not sure either one is particularly good.

One things for certain, I have come to except that I might as well wait a month or two and stretch my budget to $4k. I want to draw the line around $4k though because I'm not at the time in my life where I need to be buying speakers that cost more than that. I have a young daughter, and will be having another child soon. So I have to be willing to accept that whatever speakers I buy could potentially get damaged/ruined, and that it will happen when I'm not around. So it's tricky, because I want the best speakers I can possibly afford. While at the same time, I don't want to be butt hurt if/when my daughter does something to them when I'm not looking. Either way I will cherish them the best I can while they last, and when my kids grow up a little I can maybe get something even better then.

So any new input based on my revised budget, or my silly ramblings would be awesome. Again, thank you to everyone for helping me think through my options. I really appreciate it.
 
KenM10759

KenM10759

Audioholic Samurai
Well, if nothing else the tweeters on the KEF have "push in protection" in the form of that Tangerine Wave Guide", some semblance of "kid resistance." If you were to grab the less expensive Q series (a 5.1 system on sale for less than your max budget, BTW), they have the harder to remove push-on grilles and you wouldn't feel as bad about damage. Individual pieces available on the cheap (relatively speaking) anytime.

https://www.kefdirect.com/specials/specials/q-series-5-1-home-theater.html

Get the WAF friendly white finish, and don't feel bad about replacing those with better as the children get older.
 
KEW

KEW

Audioholic Overlord
The philharmonics look like they sound fantastic, but I don't have enough space or charisma to sell my wife in those bad boys. I do like the idea of buying better products slowly instead of buying everything all at once and spreading my budget thin. However, that being said, I would like to propose a hypocritical idea.

I listened to the paradigm monitor series, and some discontinued studios they had again today. I've come to like the "paradigm sound". I will more than likely go in that direction. Which helps narrow my speaker selection quite a bit. Sooooo, should I spend all my budget in the prestige series, and get new subs in a few years? Or should I stick with the monitor series, and get 2 svs sb-1000s to upgrade my subs at the same time? Just some ideas, and I'm not sure either one is particularly good.

One things for certain, I have come to except that I might as well wait a month or two and stretch my budget to $4k. I want to draw the line around $4k though because I'm not at the time in my life where I need to be buying speakers that cost more than that. I have a young daughter, and will be having another child soon. So I have to be willing to accept that whatever speakers I buy could potentially get damaged/ruined, and that it will happen when I'm not around. So it's tricky, because I want the best speakers I can possibly afford. While at the same time, I don't want to be butt hurt if/when my daughter does something to them when I'm not looking. Either way I will cherish them the best I can while they last, and when my kids grow up a little I can maybe get something even better then.

So any new input based on my revised budget, or my silly ramblings would be awesome. Again, thank you to everyone for helping me think through my options. I really appreciate it.
The kid might not be so bad as you think. There is a world of difference between boys and girls. At two separate times, two friends with 3 year olds came to visit. The boy found my RC and started whacking it against the coffee table. The girl just grabbed it and pushed buttons. She liked the way it lit up. Not sure the boy even noticed that!

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felipe

Audioholic
Oh, and if you want output you could get one of the Klipsch Reference systems and add a second sub. These you could probably demo in person, too. The RP-260 system is $2300.
+1 for the Klipsch Reference Premiere speakers...the brightness was replaced with smoothness ;)...very revealing and will extract everything from the source material (not exaggerating)..if that is to your liking ;).
it's not that I don't like the golden ear sound. I heard the triton ones and was very impressed, but they are out of my budget and the sevens just don't match up.

My father has an older klipsch reference theater built around some RF-62s. Bit to bright for me, but you are correct. Damn things getting insanely loud. Which works for him because the old man is going deaf.
The new Klipsch RP series don't have the "brightness" of the previous gens..just an FYI :).
 
KenM10759

KenM10759

Audioholic Samurai
I had my Hafler 200 bookshelf speakers hanging from the ceiling like those in KEW's photos while my kids were growing up. Didn't put them on stands until they were all teenagers.
 
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Brooks Moore

Enthusiast
Well I just want to thank everyone again for all the helpful insight. I decided to go with the paradigm prestige series over the monitors. I will also be upgrading my subs to svs pb-1000s. I really appreciate all the sincere effort put forth in my post, and I'm glad I finally joined the forum.
 
KenM10759

KenM10759

Audioholic Samurai
Great choice, a superb speaker!

If your space is anything like my son's, two PB2000's will just impress you to no end. I know his does for me.
 
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felipe

Audioholic
You'll love those pb 1000's. I had those before...excellent response and output :).
 
KenM10759

KenM10759

Audioholic Samurai
Oh I missed that...two PB1000, not PB2000. No idea how they'll do. I know I was initially impressed with my SB1000, but now not so much.
 
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Brooks Moore

Enthusiast
What do you not like about the sb-1000 if you don't mind me asking? I was contemplating getting 2 of those instead of the dual pb-1000s. The smaller footprint and the sealed musical box was intreging to me. I haven't decided between the 2 yet and I'd love your input.
 
jonnythan

jonnythan

Audioholic Ninja
I think the 2xSB-1000 will be a good choice. It doesn't sound like your space is all that big. You could also consider a single larger sub, like a ULS-15, F15HP, or S1500 then add another later if you want.
 
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felipe

Audioholic
The dual pb1000s will have more output from 30hz and below in comparison to the sb1000s..which is better for HT. Having owned the pb1000s and currently owning the sb1000, I can say with confidence that the bass is tighter and more controlled with the sb1000.
 
KenM10759

KenM10759

Audioholic Samurai
I enjoyed the SB1000 and it's a good piece, but the SB2000 is only 1.2" wider and taller, about 1.8" deeper. I didn't think I could fit that in the tight spot I have when I opted for the SB1000. About 6 weeks later my son wanted to update his Sony downfiring for his HT, so I helped him get the SB2000 as he has bigger space. It proved to be the one I should have gotten. Stronger, richer sound, and really seems to extend louder in the lower frequencies.

It's now mine, and I got him the PB2000 that fits fine in his bigger room, works better for movies. I'm far more into 2.1 music, tighter room, sealed is better for me and the music I listen to. My cousin now owns the SB1000 and in his space it's good. He has a Klipsch R24F/R25C/R14M surround in a smaller space and there the SB1000 is in the right orientation. He's only 8 feet away from it. In my space I was about 13-14 feet from it and that was too far. The SB2000 just works better.
 
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