My new carry piece

[jeffsg4mac]

For giggles here is the bulk of what I currently have. Couple more not in the pic. A bad guy might get into my house, but not a very good chance he will make it out

 

[Mort Corey]

Most people defend the right to bear arms by arguing that it is needed for self defense against criminals, when in fact that right is granted in order for citizens to protect themselves against there own government.

Just a pet-peeve of mine, but the Bill of Rights (as well as the US Constition itself) were not written to "grant" any rights at all. They are (supposed anyway) to keep government from usurping inalienable rights. Rights don't come from government......government(s) only restrict rights.

 

[Tarub]

Concealed Carry Info by the State. How to apply for it.

http://www.packing.org/state/

 

[Tomorrow]

Just a pet-peeve of mine, but the Bill of Rights (as well as the US Constition itself) were not written to "grant" any rights at all. They are (supposed anyway) to keep government from usurping inalienable rights. Rights don't come from government......government(s) only restrict rights.

Well said. I didn't state the issue very well on this point.

 

[jeffsg4mac]

My local shop finally got some Smith and Wesson Military/Police compacts in. Unfortunately they only got the 9mm so far but he said I could swap it for a .40 when they become available.

Going to take it to the range tomorrow and then I have my CCW permit class the following weekend.

Matt, question for you. I had a smith Sigma in a 9mm, not a bad gun, no real faults except the trigger, definately not as good as a Glock. Why not just get the original that the smith is copied from? just curious.

 

[Matt34]

Matt, question for you. I had a smith Sigma in a 9mm, not a bad gun, no real faults except the trigger, definately not as good as a Glock. Why not just get the original that the smith is copied from? just curious.

I dunno about that. The Sigma certainly was a Glock knockoff- S&W even got dinged in court for it. The M&P has made some significant advances on the original polymer pistol, the most notable (and least noticeable) being the steel chassis present in the polymer frame. One of the things people gripe about in reference to Glocks is how they behave under recoil. The M&P handles like a steel autopistol because it has a steel core to the frame. Plus, I've never been a big fan of Glocks for various reasons.

 

[majorloser]

Matt, question for you. I had a smith Sigma in a 9mm, not a bad gun, no real faults except the trigger, definately not as good as a Glock. Why not just get the original that the smith is copied from? just curious.

I agree. That's why I like my Glock 32 and wouldn't mind a 33 or 29. And with the lighter trigger option it's even better.

 

[jeffsg4mac]

I dunno about that. The Sigma certainly was a Glock knockoff- S&W even got dinged in court for it. The M&P has made some significant advances on the original polymer pistol, the most notable (and least noticeable) being the steel chassis present in the polymer frame. One of the things people gripe about in reference to Glocks is how they behave under recoil. The M&P handles like a steel autopistol because it has a steel core to the frame. Plus, I've never been a big fan of Glocks for various reasons.

Well I can't comment on the new one because I have never shot one, So I will take your word. However, recoil has never been an issue for me with a Glock, not even with full power +p+ loads in .45 or full power 10mm. My .40 is ported so not an issue at all. Of Course I have a .44 a .41 and a 454 cassull too. Also, I have shot a Glock with all types of ammo from low power target loads and everything else. I have never once ever had a jam, not once. I trust the Glock with my life. At this time I can't say that about any other auto, not my Kimber, not my Colt, not my Ruger and not my sig that I sold.

As a side note, have any of you shot either one of these yet? Both look like a lot of pistol for the money.

http://www.taurususa.com/products/product-details.cfm?id=59&category=Pistol

http://www.taurususa.com/products/product-details.cfm?id=112&category=Pistol

 

[Davemcc]

Just a pet-peeve of mine, but the Bill of Rights (as well as the US Constition itself) were not written to "grant" any rights at all. They are (supposed anyway) to keep government from usurping inalienable rights. Rights don't come from government......government(s) only restrict rights.

You are absolutely correct. I should have known better than to word it that way. It's good to be reminded that rights are inalienable and government can only restrict them.

 

[pikers]

Of course, another great option is a Remmington 870 12-gauge shotgun. Everyone knows what a shotgun racking sounds like. It's a sound that means business.

My choice for sure. Couple reasons other than the sound effects :

1. Anyone can use it effectively without really aiming. In other words, wife can rack it and send a nice spread down a hallway and hit something.

2. Easy to maintain. Not too many pieces involved = reliability.

3. More difficult for a child (or other weapons n00b) to kill themselves, unlike a handgun.

 

[pikers]

For giggles here is the bulk of what I currently have. Couple more not in the pic. A bad guy might get into my house, but not a very good chance he will make it out

Unless he finds your unlocked weapons also

 

[loserwife]

Quote Mike C., "The wife hates guns. never shot a gun. and is pretty small. I'll look for a .25 for her "


I love my little Baretta .380. I typically use one hand when I fire it and it's got great aim.

 

[Haoleb]

The shotgun should be the least likely to be ever fired, so buy a shotgun if killing people is the last thing you want to do, because 9 times out of 10, the sound of the shotgun cocking is enough to send the perp running.

plus, you can still get em when they are running away much easier For personal defense however im quite partial to the M134 Mini gun and the classic 50 cal, Usually the less skilled marksmen will opt for the mini gun due to its rapid fire capabilities. I keep a combination of both, On the right bed post i have the minigun mounted and on the left the 50 cal.

 

[Crackerballer]

Mike...what are the general laws governing firearm ownership and concealed carry in the Philippines?

Over here the states and municipalities have differing laws. It's good to live in Oregon where one can still defend one's family. I don't know if you heard, but the Second Amendment was just defended by a (District) Supreme Court decision regarding the right to private gun ownership in the District of Columbia. (This is/was a big deal because of the stated definition of the Second Amendment by the court..that "the people" really means everyone and not some National Guard militia.) The draconian laws banning ownership in DC were found unconstitutional. Ironically, those places with the strictest gun control laws are usually those places with the highest gun murder rates...DC amongst the highest. The dissenting, minority decision disagreed with the majority court decision on the basis that residents of DC WERE NOT COVERED BY THE FEDERAL LAWS OF THE UNITED STATES!!! (and therefore the U.S. Constitution). Now isn't that silliness of the highest order?! Incidentally, there is a town in Georgia (can't remember the name...maybe someone will chime in with it), that has the lowest firearm murder rate in the nation (for a town of its size)...where it is municipal law that EVERY household must have a firearm. How about that?!

Because of this one idiot Cho, and general news media and public over-reaction, we'll certainly see the hue and cry re-raised by the gun control folks in the legislature. If Hillary is elected Queen, there is one constitutional right that is in great jeopardy, IMHO.

By the way, I'm not one to recommend a purchase of any 9mm (or .38 spl) pistol. Research has proven them time and again to NOT have adequate stopping power. In a time of attack, you want something that will stop the attacker. That means a reasonably heavy caliber...such as .45 acp or perhaps .357 at a minimum (maybe .38+p). Someone suggested a shotgun. There is no better in-home deterrent than that. And he's correct, just the sound of a 12 ga. slide being racked is a pretty good deterrent in itself, lol. The choice and recommendation of the great pistoleros of our time is the venerable M1911 semi-auto in .45 acp. If you are healthy and strong enough to handle a .45, that should be your primary pistol selection.

I believe you are referring to Marietta GA. My uncle used to live there. An absolutely GORGEOUS town. A little on the rural side, and minutes from Atl. I will be buying a gun soon. I just need to get a permit and some range shooting to figure out what I like. First firearm i fired was a .45 and I was like 12. Damn near broke my arm off.

 

[mike c]

Quote Mike C., "The wife hates guns. never shot a gun. and is pretty small. I'll look for a .25 for her "


I love my little Baretta .380. I typically use one hand when I fire it and it's got great aim.

I'll let her try our existing .22 revolver first ...
we do have a .38, we never used it because it's kinda our "bad guy with no gun GUN" ... it's one of those "clean" guns

I never get around to buying a gun because I keep diverting all funds to audio stuff

 

[Tomorrow]

I thought you may enjoy seeing a couple of interesting pieces.

The stainless .45 is a first run issue, tricked-out AMT Hardballer that was presented by AMT to the late, great gun author, teacher, and raconteur, Colonel Jeff Cooper. He gifted it to me ~15 years ago. Wonderful piece.

The revolver is a reasonably rare Colt Boa in .357. There were only 1200 of these made, 600 in each of two barrel lengths.

 

[Matt34]

I thought you may enjoy seeing a couple of interesting pieces.

The stainless .45 is a first run issue, tricked-out AMT Hardballer that was presented by AMT to the late, great gun author, teacher, and raconteur, Colonel Jeff Cooper. He gifted it to me ~15 years ago. Wonderful piece.

The revolver is a reasonably rare Colt Boa in .357. There were only 1200 of these made, 600 in each of two barrel lengths.

Drool over the 1911! One day I'll get one.

 

[flippo]

Revolver

I always reccomend a revolver for home/self defense. Think of the time you might need to use the weapon and the stress you will be under and your semi jams-- are you or your wife practised enough to safely unjam it?
I would love to get a ruger .357 if the wife would let me!!

 

[zildjian]

plus, you can still get em when they are running away much easier For personal defense however im quite partial to the M134 Mini gun and the classic 50 cal, Usually the less skilled marksmen will opt for the mini gun due to its rapid fire capabilities. I keep a combination of both, On the right bed post i have the minigun mounted and on the left the 50 cal.

Of course it's not by my bed, but I do have a .460 Weatherby (elephant gun), close to a .50 cal. It was a gift, and I rarely shoot it. At $5 per round, I can stand the recoil (a lot) but it hurts my wallet to shoot it much!!! If I could hit a burgler with anything, sure the .460 would inflict more damage than anything this side of a .50 cal, but I still think a pump shotgun is faster and easier.
Never had to get a gun out at home for even the thought of defense purposes, and hope I never do. If needed for that though, I'll have that base covered, until then, I'll just keep using my guns for target shooting competitions.

 

[Tomorrow]

Of course it's not by my bed, but I do have a .460 Weatherby (elephant gun), close to a .50 cal. It was a gift, and I rarely shoot it. At $5 per round, I can stand the recoil (a lot) but it hurts my wallet to shoot it much!!! If I could hit a burgler with anything, sure the .460 would inflict more damage than anything this side of a .50 cal, but I still think a pump shotgun is faster and easier.
Never had to get a gun out at home for even the thought of defense purposes, and hope I never do. If needed for that though, I'll have that base covered, until then, I'll just keep using my guns for target shooting competitions.

LOL, just put the butt of that .460 next to any intruder. The recoil will send them packing.