Michael Jackson Dead ?

[ScottWChicago]

Rip?

I used to worry about dieing before I was a non believer. But God has worked on me over the years and I finally accepted Christ as my savior. I went from being a functional alcoholic 16 years ago totally hating church to now enjoying fellowship with other Christians. Not the Joel Olsteen type of Christianity where if you live a clean life God will reward you with a great job, lots of money, happiness stuff.

While I am no way perfect and don't always make the right decisions I find that if I put my trust in Christ everything else is secondary. I might not understand why everything happens the way it does, but I take comfort in knowing that He has a master plan.

In know means am I trying to convert anyone to Christianity with this post, I just wanted to express my feelings.

I am 44 years old and also remember the old Michael Jackson. It still amazes me what a price a person pays for fame and fortune. That said I guess I am glad I am not rich and famous except for rich in Christ


If you want to listen to a simple pastor please take a listen to Kevin Holman. Nothing fancy but he is an awsome teacher and sticks to the Word!


http://welcometosuncoast.com/sermon.html

 

[Alex2507]

This day will be long remembered. Just as the day Elvis, and John Lennon died.

No kidding.
Everybody will be saying that Michael Jackson died on Nomo's birthday.

 

[MatthewB.]

Elvis ain't dead, he's serving flapjacks down south somewhere.

 

[TLS Guy]

Maybe I'm just too young to have seen him in his prime, but that guy has always given me the creeps. I'm only in my mid 20s though, so, I never saw him as a handsome black man, only as a white pedophile.

I saw a picture when he was a kid in the Jackson 5 and he looked completely normal, plus he had a kickass afro.

I'm with you, the guy was a complete sewer, and performed nothing of merit.

 

[sawzalot]

NAMBLA'a Man of the Year gone....say it ain't so. Hope the six year old is okay after he collapsed.

Thats just a sick thing to say
The six year old part that is.

 

[sawzalot]

I'm with you, the guy was a complete sewer, and performed nothing of merit.

Wow and I thought you knew music.
The Man,in his hey day was a remarkable performer.
We all know his downward spiral into what appeared to be some sic way of life(never proven) but I am only referring to his glory days of the 80'S.

 

[rnatalli]

............sick pedophile.

So you have proof that the courts did not? If I'm not mistaken, he was acquitted on all counts. Please remember we live in a country where the rule of law is what counts. That said, if he was a pedophile, he should rot in hell. One thing is for sure, he put on some entertaining shows.

 

[sawzalot]

So you have proof that the courts did not? If I'm not mistaken, he was acquitted on all counts. Please remember we live in a country where the rule of law is what counts. That said, if he was a pedophile, he should rot in hell. One thing is for sure, he put on some entertaining shows.

On the same token, OJ was found not guilty too, .
Now I know that goes against the grain of what I said in the earlier post but sometimes we just cant get the truth and prolly never will.I myself am guilty of always giving someone that second chance and it seems to always come back and bite me but hey old habits die hard.

 

[rnatalli]

On the same token, OJ was found not guilty too, .

And he should rot in hell do if he did it. I certainly believe OJ did it and believe Michael was capable, but a person is innocent till proven guilty under man's law. If there is a God, he/she/it will decide to impose God's law.

 

[markw]

There is a big difference between the law and justice.

 

[ErinH]

Rather than retype my sentiments I’ll just copy what I’ve said on another forum (oh, and fwiw, I'm 26):

II'm sad. Really sucks to see him go just before his chance to really go out on top. He was less than a month away from starting his tour and he passed. Really sucks. Really does make me sad.

I dunno. Maybe I feel the way I do about it because, simply, he's what I think of when I think of music when I was a kid. I used to cruise in the car with my mom and when I was 4 I was singing along to MJ. Always been a fan. I've got video of me dancing to him when I was 6. Ran out and bought HIStory in the early 90's. I've got 4 vinyls that I would not let go of for anything and they are all MJ albums (OTW, Thriller, Bad, Dangerous). For my brother's 30th b'day I dressed up as MJ and sang "bad" (blackmail awaits).

There's just a lot of good times I associate with his music. So, if it sounds ghey to say that it really does bum me out and actually does affect me, then so be it. I'm just telling you guys why it means so much to me.






I hate to keep dragging this out, but it seems like the point is somehow being missed…

Thing is, this is a forum based on our love of music. Right?
So, when someone here explains why they are so saddened by a musician’s death - a musician who impacted their (my) life with so much of his work - I would expect people understand that. Instead, we get told we’re silly for liking his music (enter any other adjectives you want to describe how this thread has taken a ridiculous downward spiral).

Okay, then how about when your favorite artist dies… you know, the one who put out the song that reminds you of your wife, the song that reminds you of your children, the song that reminds you of your entire childhood (literally in my case), we jump on the thread and start making fun of anyone who shows sorrow over said artist’s death. That’s essentially what’s going on here. You didn't like him? Fine. I don't care for U2 but I'm not going to make fun of those who do when Bono passes.

Or, maybe we’re just all here because we like to talk about how we have the best audio gear and have no interest whatsoever in music. +1 for my brand new SQ amps.

 

[MidnightSensi]

Thing is, this is a forum based on our love of music. Right?
So, when someone here explains why they are so saddened by a musician’s death - a musician who impacted their (my) life with so much of his work - I would expect people understand that. Instead, we get told we’re silly for liking his music (enter any other adjectives you want to describe how this thread has taken a ridiculous downward spiral).

Okay, then how about when your favorite artist dies… you know, the one who put out the song that reminds you of your wife, the song that reminds you of your children, the song that reminds you of your entire childhood (literally in my case), we jump on the thread and start making fun of anyone who shows sorrow over said artist’s death. That’s essentially what’s going on here. You didn't like him? Fine. I don't care for U2 but I'm not going to make fun of those who do when Bono passes.

Or, maybe we’re just all here because we like to talk about how we have the best audio gear and have no interest whatsoever in music. +1 for my brand new SQ amps.

I'll tell ya, MJ was before me, but I do at least begin to understand his importance as people have given their input to me about what his music meant to them.

Bradley Nowell's death was a big deal to me. His songs expressed the way I was feeling in ways I couldn't vocalize yet, and in many ways still can't.

There is something bigger about music than the person.

Marley said "One good thing about music, is when it hits you, you feel no pain" ... the other side of that is when its creator is gone, there is an emotional bond you gain with an artist that made you feel good. When they die, it is almost like a guilt falls on you that you couldn't return the favor to them.

 

[MidnightSensi]

LOL

Yeah, I think you're a bit too young. I turn 40 this year and I still remember the Thriller video as completely mind blowing. You know, back when MTV actually played music.

Actually I remember being pretty young, maybe 8-9 and seeing "Thriller" played on MTV really late, on one of those throwback shows. And I remember thinking "damn, this is pretty sweet." It was like B movie stylee with those dance moves, I mean.... if that had just come out this week it would be a number 1 video still. No special effects or anything.

When I saw Chris Brown dance at some video award shows I thought it was pretty damn cool, but, there is another story...

 

[darien87]

I gotta say, I'm pretty surprised at some of the responses here, and frankly not surprised at others. *cough* Buckeye Nut *cough*

His personal life aside, to say that he did nothing of merit is completely wrong. MJ DOMINATED popular music in the 80's. He peaked with Thriller, but he put out 4 terriffic albums in a row. He was a musical perfectionist and in my opinion improved his art with each album. I would actually say that Dangerous was his best record.

Off The Wall
Thriller
Bad
Dangerous

Say what you want about the guy's personal life, (and I am one of the people who lean towards believing he was a pedophile), but you cannot honestly deny his affect on popular music and performing in general. The man was a god when he hit the stage. MJ, as a performer, is in a class that only 2 others can come close to.

In no particular order, it goes: Elvis, Sinatra, Michael Jackson. Anyone who doesn't agree with that statement is letting their personal feelings cloud their judgement.

 

[Bluesmoke]

Musically, the dude was gifted, but also he bridged music that was coined "black" with "white" pop and rock and bridged multiple races together - and made it mainstream, which is why he was so popular around the world.

To me, this was his biggest achievement.

 

[gmichael]

Oh, I and turn 60 on Saturday.

Happy birthday Mark.

 

[Adam]

Happy birthday Mark.

You're early, but I get that - you're trying to beat Mike or Phil to the punch.

 

[gmichael]

You're early, but I get that - you're trying to beat Mike or Phil to the punch.

I don't post on the weekends. The whole having a life thing gets in the way.

 

[Adam]

I don't post on the weekends. The whole having a life thing gets in the way.

In that case, I'll miss you tomorrow. And Sunday.

 

[lsiberian]

Speaking Ill of the dead isn't fair in my mind. MJ was a great performer. I can relate to those who listened to him because of Nirvana.

It seems many great musicians have personal issues and die young.

I can't blame him for being messed up. His dad used to beat the crap out of him at every opportunity and if you've been through an abusive childhood you know how bad it messes you up. Throw his skin disease on top and you can imagine how he got so messed up.

Thriller is still the best all time video IMO.

Thriller is one of the greatest albums to meet this planet.

I've been jamming to his good music all day.

let's not speak ill of the dead. Jesus said let he who is without sin cast the first stone.