At this point I’m going to bow out of this thread. This is just a waste of time and electrons. Some people here just refuse to flat out admit in what Trump’s campaign did was wrong ethically and in some instances legally criminal (campaign finance laws to name one; paying off the two women not to reveal their affairs with him, $130, 000 each, a month before the presidential election in 2016). I feel like I’m just spitting in the wind and wasting precious oxygen.
It seems that as long as Trump dances with the devil and skirts closer & closer to the precipice that’s okeydokey in their eyes. Just like his constant outright lying, ignorance of the facts; it’s all excusable in the name of party affiliation.
I’ve had these same conversations before with friends & family who always vote a straight Republican ticket no matter what. BTW, I’m a registered Independent and have voted for candidates of both parties. When Carter, Clinton, Obama were presidents I had no problem in admitting when they shaded the truth, lied or followed some wrong-headed policy, both domestically and foreign, that I didn’t agree with, and I said as such. I mean what’s the big deal in admitting the truth? But getting them to admit it about their own candidate was near-nigh impossible, as if to do so would cause Armageddon to commence. Unreal.
But we now live in the age of “alternate facts”, which completely baffles me. Up is down, down is up.
I had a Jesuit Catholic education for 12 years and I was taught that facts are facts and immutable, especially scientific facts until proven otherwise. I see a part of the Arctic ice pack, the size of Rhode Island, tear itself off the pole and bobbles out into the Atlantic Ocean and people deny that climate change is real and a fact.
Really? It would kill you to admit what your eyes see before you and what 95% of the scientist’s state is a reality? Wow!!!
Reminds of the guy who marries an ugly women and won’t admit it. Just tell the truth, she’s a great cook, a wonderful mother to your children and great in the sack. There’s no shame in that. I don’t view you as a lesser man for it. In fact I admire you. My father always said, it’s one thing to lie to another man if necessary but to lie to yourself is stupid.
Tell the truth and shame the devil.
Have fun guys.