Hmm, Boycott is a understatement.

[brian32672]

A relative likes to foward emails to me. I'm sure you all get them....
Anyhow I found this one interesting.....


USPS New Stamp

This one is impossible to believe. Scroll down for the text.

REMEMBER the MUSLIM bombing of PanAm Flight 103!

REMEMBER the MUSLIM bombing of the World Trade Center in 1993!

REMEMBER the MUSLIM bombing of the Marine barracks in Lebanon!

REMEMBER the MUSLIM bombing of the military barracks in Saudi Arabia!

REMEMBER the MUSLIM bombing of the American Embassies in Africa!

REMEMBER the MUSLIM bombing of the USS COLE!

REMEMBER the MUSLIM attack on 9/11/2001!

REMEMBER all the AMERICAN lives that were lost in those vicious MUSLIM attacks!



Now the United States Postal Service REMEMBERS and HONORS the EID MUSLIM holiday season with a commemorative first class
holiday postage stamp.

REMEMBER to adamantly and vocally BOYCOTT this stamp
when purchasing your stamps at the post office.
To use this stamp would be a slap in the face to all those AMERICANS who died at the hands of those whom this stamp honors.

EDIT:: That stamp was messed with, below is the actual picture of the .37 stamp..

 

[jaxvon]

Similarly remember all of the things Christianity has done to the world in the name of THEIR God. Remember, this is America. Freedom of religion...

 

[brian32672]

Oh I can see freedom of religion. But I really don't think the USPS should commemorate religion of any kind. Specially one that has adamantly showed all that great support behind Americans

EDIT:: Also USPS stands for UNITED STATES POST OFFICE. Not International Post Office, or even better Christian Post Office, and worse Muslim Post Office. I would think the United States of America Post Office would want to continue to commemorate U.S. Cars, Birds, People, Citys, Fallen Bombing Hits (World Trade Center, etc..) Maybe individuals that died at these attacks. Or back to our Black Brethren (Perhaps a O.J. Stamp )

 

[ducker]

you're not forced to use that stamp. use one that says "LOVE" or the American flag. the Post Office runs a lot of religious stamps around Christmas time. You don't hear people getting all up in arms over those (although I bet some people do.)

This particular stamp does seem a bit odd, but what's with all the anger??? I mean there are "jerks" (to put it lightly) in every religion.

 

[brian32672]

you're not forced to use that stamp. use one that says "LOVE" or the American flag. the Post Office runs a lot of religious stamps around Christmas time. You don't hear people getting all up in arms over those (although I bet some people do.)

This particular stamp does seem a bit odd, but what's with all the anger??? I mean there are "jerks" (to put it lightly) in every religion.

No anger, but as you put it "odd"

 

[Buckeyefan 1]

That argument can go both ways. There's a Hanukkah stamp on the page before. That's obviously a Jewish commerative stamp, and Israel bombs the daylights out of the Muslims.

Maybe the USPS should stop commemerating either of these two nations and their celebrations. Obviously it strikes a nerve in a lot of people.

Both groups take up residence in the US, but as we all know, the Jewish people have a much stronger foothold in our countries political as well as business arena -barring oil.

http://shop.usps.com/cgi-bin/vsbv/postal_store_non_ssl/display_products/productCategory.jsp?prodCat=/Stamps by Rate/37-Cent First Class&prodCatCursor=32&passFlag=5

 

[jaxvon]

I'm with ya there Brian. Separation of Church and state. The only way to avoid this kind of controversy is to not mess with religion at all.

 

[BMXTRIX]

You know - this is a get the f### over it issue. Really - grow up.

You want to sound like an immature prejudice fool - feel free. But really, I know many Muslims, and not one of them has blown up anything that I am aware of. Strangely enough, my Christian friends haven't blown up anything either.

Confusing extremists with people is a silly thing to do. Your average joe religious guy just is trying to find some direction and internal peace in his life. If you don't agree, that's fine and we are very blessed to have born in a nation and land that allows us to make that choice for ourselves.

Not everyone is so lucky or fortunate - and those people will likely never see this website in their lives.

If you are not of Muslim faith, then by all means, don't buy the stamp. But, if you disagree with the post office putting out that stamp, then you really have to consider that the post office should be fair all around and not put out Christmas, Haunakah, Kwanza, Easter, or any other stamps that reflect any sort of religion whatsoever.

Nations and individuals have attacked us. They have manipulated people by distortions of faith, religion, and belief. Don't confuse those lies with the Truth of what the religion stands for and all that it holds to so many individuals.

 

[brian32672]

That argument can go both ways. There's a Hanukkah stamp on the page before. That's obviously a Jewish commerative stamp, and Israel bombs the daylights out of the Muslims.

Ok, fine... However I don't recall Jewish people bombing America. Imagine this, the Muslims (or rather Asian/Arabic country) commemorates a Jewish holiday I'm sure they would not..... Only here in a America.

We did have David Koresh, but he did not attack any American citys.
And this was a very small group of people.

When he was 20, Koresh turned to the Church of Seventh Day Adventists, his mother's church. But he was expelled for being a bad influence on the young people. Sometime during the next couple of years, Koresh went to Hollywood to become a rock star but nothing came of it. Instead, in 1981 he went to Waco, Texas where he joined the Branch Davidians, a religious sect which in 1935 had settled 10 miles outside of Waco. At one time, it had more than 1,400 members.

Anyhow, surely most will agree that even Christian & Jewish Stamps are completely different. Like I said, I don't recall any large Jewish or Christian groups that setup an attack on America.

If they wanted to do this stamp, I think it would have been better to put in "Honoring our American Muslims"

 

[brian32672]

You know - this is a get the f### over it issue. Really - grow up.

You want to sound like an immature prejudice fool - feel free. But really, I know many Muslims, and not one of them has blown up anything that I am aware of. Strangely enough, my Christian friends haven't blown up anything either.

Whoa.... I sound like a immature prejudice fool????
I know I posted the statement about American Muslims is fine, and I was typing that as you had posted. So you did not see it. But Please no attacks on me. I'm just a poor American boy.... Also I started the thread with "a relative had sent this to me, and I thought it was interesting".

 

[racquetman]

Confusing extremists with people is a silly thing to do.

Commemorating extremists is a silly thing to do!!

 

[Audioholics]

Separation of Church and state. The only way to avoid this kind of controversy is to not mess with religion at all.

Disclaimer: This response is not pointed at jaxvon, but I'm making a point based on his quote.

Besides not being in the Constituion, as most people believe, the above statement only ensures that the nationally endorsed religion is Atheism. Let's all remember that it's freedom of religion, not freedom from religion. So long as the US doesn't knock on your door and force us to adhere to a specific set of beliefs - its all good.

This stamp doesn't particularly surprise or upset me. It's long been known that anything tied to the federal government eventually becomes so politically correct that nothing has any weight, meaning, or real significance.

PS. To me, an atheist is like someone who stares at a painting and says there's no painter. A more honest individual will say they are agnostic - and at least admit they don't know everything.

 

[Tomorrow]

Like it or not...the U.S. government is big business. Being a big business, it is very concerned with corporate image and product (idea) marketing. It has been mentioned time and again that the U.S. is losing the propaganda/marketing battle with the forces of Muslim Extremism. (This is reasonably ironic since the United States has done more, singlehandedly, to save Muslim lives than any other country.)

This stamp is but one small strategy to win the hearts and minds of not only Muslims, but the world's peoples.

And boys...calling names isn't a good marketing strategy for your ideas. So please...keep it civil.

 

[gene]

Lets also not forget that the Muslin religion didn't attack us. a group of extremists under the guise of that religion did. True muslims are pacifists just like most religions until someone perverts its meaning.

 

[brian32672]

Lets also not forget that the Muslin religion didn't attack us. a group of extremists under the guise of that religion did.

Exactly, and that is why I stated this

If they wanted to do this stamp, I think it would have been better to put in "Honoring our American Muslims"

 

[goodman]

I will not buy any stamp that supports any religion or religious holiday. I like my stamps non-sectarian.

 

[brian32672]

I will not buy any stamp that supports any religion or religious holiday. I like my stamps non-sectarian.

Yeah, actually the last book of stamps I bought (just 2 days ago) Was the 50s Sporty Cars book.
But I would not buy the stamp that is posted here, for various reasons....

 

[claudermilk]

Hmm, another reason for online bill paying? I can't remember the last stamp I used.

Exactly, and that is why I stated this

If they wanted to do this stamp, I think it would have been better to put in "Honoring our American Muslims"

I tend to agree with that sentiment. As has been mentioned a few times, it's not the religion that's making the attacks, but some sick people using it as a weak excuse. Anyone who's made even a cursory look at the religion's teaching realizes that these kind of attacks are not really what it's about. Cue the Rodney King quote...

 

[jaxvon]

Disclaimer: This response is not pointed at jaxvon, but I'm making a point based on his quote.

Besides not being in the Constituion, as most people believe, the above statement only ensures that the nationally endorsed religion is Atheism. Let's all remember that it's freedom of religion, not freedom from religion. So long as the US doesn't knock on your door and force us to adhere to a specific set of beliefs - its all good.

This stamp doesn't particularly surprise or upset me. It's long been known that anything tied to the federal government eventually becomes so politically correct that nothing has any weight, meaning, or real significance.

PS. To me, an atheist is like someone who stares at a painting and says there's no painter. A more honest individual will say they are agnostic - and at least admit they don't know everything.

And thus we get into the Constitutional interpretation debate. Thomas Jefferson wrote in a letter that there was an intention to create a "Wall of separation" between church and state. But there was no concrete mention of the idea in the constitution. I don't think religion has any official part in government, regardless of what kind it is. Obviously you cannot stop its influence, as people make decisions (in the legislature and everywhere else) based on their own beliefs, many of which are formed by religious ideals. At the same time, I belive there should be an effort for our government to not endorse any particular religion.

While I'm on my Constitutional rant, I definitely believe that a lot of Supreme Court rulings have been made with bogus interpretation, though I agree with the outcome. Take Roe v. Wade for instance. While I agree with the outcome, I do not believe it is a woman's right persay. Indeed, the way the SC synthesized a "right to privacy" from a collection of amendments and precedents (none of which every mentioned privacy) was a very bold and, in my opinion, very wrong move. I support a woman's privilege to have an abortion, but there is no right to such a practice.

[/rant].

 

[BMXTRIX]

Whoa.... I sound like a immature prejudice fool????

No - but the email message you received is. It is a short sighted, immature, and very prejudiced message.

In all countries where there are Muslims, it is not the religion, but the governments controlling those religions that really spur hatred. People of those nations are often the first who are horrified at what others do.

The Muslim religion is one that should be celebrated on its own merits. The few extremists, who are admittedly very wicked people, should not be the main focus of a good religion.

Just give me my santa stamps and be done with it.

What's wrong with honoring the worlds Muslims as we do the worlds Christians and Jews? How about a few buddhists stamps to go along with that?

I will still say that anyone that has an issue with the stamp needs to just get over it and figure out why it angers them so much. The list of reasons is not even applicable to the vast majority of the way Muslims live their lives and treat others in the USA - or abroad.