S snakeeyes Audioholic Ninja Apr 13, 2018 4,727 0 113 Jun 5, 2018 #81 lovinthehd said: You thinking of Adaptive DRC? Click to expand... Yes you are right the adaptive DRC and Ypao volume do work together. Both help in different ways when listening at low volume. I use them together then turn them both off. Ypao volume is a loudness eq.
lovinthehd said: You thinking of Adaptive DRC? Click to expand... Yes you are right the adaptive DRC and Ypao volume do work together. Both help in different ways when listening at low volume. I use them together then turn them both off. Ypao volume is a loudness eq.
lovinthehd Audioholic Jedi Sep 11, 2012 44,878 0 113 Oakridge, OR Jun 5, 2018 #82 snakeeyes said: Yes you are right the adaptive DRC and Ypao volume do work together. Both help in different ways when listening at low volume. I use them together then turn them both off. Ypao volume is a loudness eq. Click to expand... Thanks for the clarification. I haven't cared for any of the DRC type controls on my avrs, but then I don't need to be careful about volume levels either....but do like loudness compensation like Audyssey's DynamicEQ at lower volumes...
snakeeyes said: Yes you are right the adaptive DRC and Ypao volume do work together. Both help in different ways when listening at low volume. I use them together then turn them both off. Ypao volume is a loudness eq. Click to expand... Thanks for the clarification. I haven't cared for any of the DRC type controls on my avrs, but then I don't need to be careful about volume levels either....but do like loudness compensation like Audyssey's DynamicEQ at lower volumes...
A Andrein Senior Audioholic Nov 19, 2016 606 0 28 47 Jun 5, 2018 #83 lovinthehd said: Thanks for the clarification. I haven't cared for any of the DRC type controls on my avrs, but then I don't need to be careful about volume levels either....but do like loudness compensation like Audyssey's DynamicEQ at lower volumes... Click to expand... Same with me. Dont have to use drc. Never used it in fact. But almost always use ypao volume. I like to feel bass at low volume. Not a big deal to generate bass at ref level. But if i feel bass at low level and it is clean, then to me it is indication of a good hifi system.
lovinthehd said: Thanks for the clarification. I haven't cared for any of the DRC type controls on my avrs, but then I don't need to be careful about volume levels either....but do like loudness compensation like Audyssey's DynamicEQ at lower volumes... Click to expand... Same with me. Dont have to use drc. Never used it in fact. But almost always use ypao volume. I like to feel bass at low volume. Not a big deal to generate bass at ref level. But if i feel bass at low level and it is clean, then to me it is indication of a good hifi system.
S snakeeyes Audioholic Ninja Apr 13, 2018 4,727 0 113 Jun 5, 2018 #84 Andrein said: Same with me. Dont have to use drc. Never used it in fact. But almost always use ypao volume. I like to feel bass at low volume. Not a big deal to generate bass at ref level. But if i feel bass at low level and it is clean, then to me it is indication of a good hifi system. Click to expand... I like high volume I guess.
Andrein said: Same with me. Dont have to use drc. Never used it in fact. But almost always use ypao volume. I like to feel bass at low volume. Not a big deal to generate bass at ref level. But if i feel bass at low level and it is clean, then to me it is indication of a good hifi system. Click to expand... I like high volume I guess.
lovinthehd Audioholic Jedi Sep 11, 2012 44,878 0 113 Oakridge, OR Jun 5, 2018 #85 snakeeyes said: I like high volume I guess. Click to expand... Oh I like high volume, and perhaps liked it a bit too much over the years, now trying to be nicer to my ears these days Reactions: snakeeyes
snakeeyes said: I like high volume I guess. Click to expand... Oh I like high volume, and perhaps liked it a bit too much over the years, now trying to be nicer to my ears these days
S snakeeyes Audioholic Ninja Apr 13, 2018 4,727 0 113 Jun 5, 2018 #86 To tell the truth I got the 2060 in October and the 681 in November and my old 2003 RXV3300 and RXV630 didn’t have these features but I do have some preferences already. And I can change my mind over time. Who knows. Right now, I like it loud.
To tell the truth I got the 2060 in October and the 681 in November and my old 2003 RXV3300 and RXV630 didn’t have these features but I do have some preferences already. And I can change my mind over time. Who knows. Right now, I like it loud.
S snakeeyes Audioholic Ninja Apr 13, 2018 4,727 0 113 Jun 5, 2018 #87 snakeeyes said: To tell the truth I got the 2060 in October and the 681 in November and my old 2003 RXV3300 and RXV630 didn’t have these features but I do have some preferences already. And I can change my mind over time. Who knows. Right now, I like it loud. Click to expand... Ok at lower volume the Ypao volume feature by itself is cool, but at higher volume it is not pleasant to my taste. The Yamaha phone app lets you slide it off and on so it’s easy to mess with. Thanks guys.
snakeeyes said: To tell the truth I got the 2060 in October and the 681 in November and my old 2003 RXV3300 and RXV630 didn’t have these features but I do have some preferences already. And I can change my mind over time. Who knows. Right now, I like it loud. Click to expand... Ok at lower volume the Ypao volume feature by itself is cool, but at higher volume it is not pleasant to my taste. The Yamaha phone app lets you slide it off and on so it’s easy to mess with. Thanks guys.
3db Audioholic Slumlord Sep 7, 2002 16,486 0 113 65 Ottawa Canada Jun 12, 2018 #88 lovinthehd said: You thinking of Adaptive DRC? Click to expand... Adaptive DRC applies is a funny beast in that it applies more compression during lower volumes and reduces it as the volume is dialed up. I leave it turned off.
lovinthehd said: You thinking of Adaptive DRC? Click to expand... Adaptive DRC applies is a funny beast in that it applies more compression during lower volumes and reduces it as the volume is dialed up. I leave it turned off.
S Sachb Full Audioholic Jun 25, 2014 388 0 18 Oct 11, 2020 #89 Well for me ypao front works best for music on my Elac B6.2 debut series. Also I think my subwoofer after calibration is too strong, so I had manually change it to -4db, since in gui it was told to set the volume knob of the sub to middle (12 o clock). I guess it's too high. Should I try 10 o clock position and recalibrate from scratch? Sent from my LM-G710 using Tapatalk
Well for me ypao front works best for music on my Elac B6.2 debut series. Also I think my subwoofer after calibration is too strong, so I had manually change it to -4db, since in gui it was told to set the volume knob of the sub to middle (12 o clock). I guess it's too high. Should I try 10 o clock position and recalibrate from scratch? Sent from my LM-G710 using Tapatalk
William Lemmerhirt Audioholic Overlord Jan 8, 2017 12,005 0 113 52 Oct 11, 2020 #90 Sachb said: Well for me ypao front works best for music on my Elac B6.2 debut series. Also I think my subwoofer after calibration is too strong, so I had manually change it to -4db, since in gui it was told to set the volume knob of the sub to middle (12 o clock). I guess it's too high. Should I try 10 o clock position and recalibrate from scratch? Sent from my LM-G710 using Tapatalk Click to expand... It definitely wouldn’t hurt. Ypao has a history of poor integration. Did you double check SPL level after calibration, or just go by ear? Preference is preference, but I always like to know. Reactions: ellisr63
Sachb said: Well for me ypao front works best for music on my Elac B6.2 debut series. Also I think my subwoofer after calibration is too strong, so I had manually change it to -4db, since in gui it was told to set the volume knob of the sub to middle (12 o clock). I guess it's too high. Should I try 10 o clock position and recalibrate from scratch? Sent from my LM-G710 using Tapatalk Click to expand... It definitely wouldn’t hurt. Ypao has a history of poor integration. Did you double check SPL level after calibration, or just go by ear? Preference is preference, but I always like to know.
Mark E. Long Audioholic Field Marshall Jan 21, 2010 1,537 0 38 Ohio Oct 11, 2020 #91 I’ve found that ypao in my set up at least has trouble with sub settings I run my system it the flat settings it get the distance for all spot on but it puts my subs 3 foot farther back don’t know or understand why but I also tweak the whole system with a spl meter after I’ve run the auto calibration. It always set the level 2 dvd higher on my front right main channel and upon checking with meter have to lower it back down. Thinking it could be a room boundary issue for that speaker . I tried different cross over settings for a long time at 80 and below ypao always sets them at 60 hz but going to 100 to 120 hz and not useing the auto set up settings was my path then useing the flat or threw on the eq .
I’ve found that ypao in my set up at least has trouble with sub settings I run my system it the flat settings it get the distance for all spot on but it puts my subs 3 foot farther back don’t know or understand why but I also tweak the whole system with a spl meter after I’ve run the auto calibration. It always set the level 2 dvd higher on my front right main channel and upon checking with meter have to lower it back down. Thinking it could be a room boundary issue for that speaker . I tried different cross over settings for a long time at 80 and below ypao always sets them at 60 hz but going to 100 to 120 hz and not useing the auto set up settings was my path then useing the flat or threw on the eq .
Mark E. Long Audioholic Field Marshall Jan 21, 2010 1,537 0 38 Ohio Oct 11, 2020 #92 Mark E. Long said: I’ve found that ypao in my set up at least has trouble with sub settings I run my system it the flat settings it get the distance for all spot on but it puts my subs 3 foot farther back don’t know or understand why but I also tweak the whole system with a spl meter after I’ve run the auto calibration. It always set the level 2 dvd higher on my front right main channel and upon checking with meter have to lower it back down. Thinking it could be a room boundary issue for that speaker . I tried different cross over settings for a long time at 80 and below ypao always sets them at 60 hz but going to 100 to 120 hz and not useing the auto set up settings was my path then useing the flat or threw on the eq . Click to expand... Ment to say the level on my right front main 2 db’s higher . Small screen big fingers syndrome .
Mark E. Long said: I’ve found that ypao in my set up at least has trouble with sub settings I run my system it the flat settings it get the distance for all spot on but it puts my subs 3 foot farther back don’t know or understand why but I also tweak the whole system with a spl meter after I’ve run the auto calibration. It always set the level 2 dvd higher on my front right main channel and upon checking with meter have to lower it back down. Thinking it could be a room boundary issue for that speaker . I tried different cross over settings for a long time at 80 and below ypao always sets them at 60 hz but going to 100 to 120 hz and not useing the auto set up settings was my path then useing the flat or threw on the eq . Click to expand... Ment to say the level on my right front main 2 db’s higher . Small screen big fingers syndrome .
lovinthehd Audioholic Jedi Sep 11, 2012 44,878 0 113 Oakridge, OR Oct 11, 2020 #93 Mark E. Long said: I’ve found that ypao in my set up at least has trouble with sub settings I run my system it the flat settings it get the distance for all spot on but it puts my subs 3 foot farther back don’t know or understand why but I also tweak the whole system with a spl meter after I’ve run the auto calibration. It always set the level 2 dvd higher on my front right main channel and upon checking with meter have to lower it back down. Thinking it could be a room boundary issue for that speaker . I tried different cross over settings for a long time at 80 and below ypao always sets them at 60 hz but going to 100 to 120 hz and not useing the auto set up settings was my path then useing the flat or threw on the eq . Click to expand... Because it's typical of the sub amp to add a bit of delay itself....and delay is what distance adjusts for, so typically the set distance by an auto setup routine like YPAO or Audyssey will reflect that. Reactions: Mark E. Long
Mark E. Long said: I’ve found that ypao in my set up at least has trouble with sub settings I run my system it the flat settings it get the distance for all spot on but it puts my subs 3 foot farther back don’t know or understand why but I also tweak the whole system with a spl meter after I’ve run the auto calibration. It always set the level 2 dvd higher on my front right main channel and upon checking with meter have to lower it back down. Thinking it could be a room boundary issue for that speaker . I tried different cross over settings for a long time at 80 and below ypao always sets them at 60 hz but going to 100 to 120 hz and not useing the auto set up settings was my path then useing the flat or threw on the eq . Click to expand... Because it's typical of the sub amp to add a bit of delay itself....and delay is what distance adjusts for, so typically the set distance by an auto setup routine like YPAO or Audyssey will reflect that.
S Sachb Full Audioholic Jun 25, 2014 388 0 18 Oct 11, 2020 #94 William Lemmerhirt said: It definitely wouldn’t hurt. Ypao has a history of poor integration. Did you double check SPL level after calibration, or just go by ear? Preference is preference, but I always like to know. Click to expand... I played a lot of tracks after calibration, and the sub was certainly overpowering my speakers. Sent from my LM-G710 using Tapatalk
William Lemmerhirt said: It definitely wouldn’t hurt. Ypao has a history of poor integration. Did you double check SPL level after calibration, or just go by ear? Preference is preference, but I always like to know. Click to expand... I played a lot of tracks after calibration, and the sub was certainly overpowering my speakers. Sent from my LM-G710 using Tapatalk
Mark E. Long Audioholic Field Marshall Jan 21, 2010 1,537 0 38 Ohio Oct 11, 2020 #95 lovinthehd said: Because it's typical of the sub amp to add a bit of delay itself....and delay is what distance adjusts for, so typically the set distance by an auto setup routine like YPAO or Audyssey will reflect that. Click to expand... I’ve tried setting the distance back to true measurements and it becomes boomy so I left the setting alone and and set the levels with a hand spl meter and it worked . Ypao always get the others really close with in a couple inch’s I always thought the sub reading was weird but now I get it .
lovinthehd said: Because it's typical of the sub amp to add a bit of delay itself....and delay is what distance adjusts for, so typically the set distance by an auto setup routine like YPAO or Audyssey will reflect that. Click to expand... I’ve tried setting the distance back to true measurements and it becomes boomy so I left the setting alone and and set the levels with a hand spl meter and it worked . Ypao always get the others really close with in a couple inch’s I always thought the sub reading was weird but now I get it .
H highfigh Seriously, I have no life. Sep 14, 2008 24,219 0 113 Oct 11, 2020 #96 Anyone who uses any of these correction systems is going to get a compromise, nothing more. It's impossible to create a large 'perfect listening spot' in a room that won't allow it. It's just not possible. These are trying to create a large 'listening bubble', where the flaws are decreased, but not totally. Reactions: Mark E. Long
Anyone who uses any of these correction systems is going to get a compromise, nothing more. It's impossible to create a large 'perfect listening spot' in a room that won't allow it. It's just not possible. These are trying to create a large 'listening bubble', where the flaws are decreased, but not totally.
William Lemmerhirt Audioholic Overlord Jan 8, 2017 12,005 0 113 52 Oct 11, 2020 #97 Sachb said: I played a lot of tracks after calibration, and the sub was certainly overpowering my speakers. Sent from my LM-G710 using Tapatalk Click to expand... Gotcha.
Sachb said: I played a lot of tracks after calibration, and the sub was certainly overpowering my speakers. Sent from my LM-G710 using Tapatalk Click to expand... Gotcha.
lovinthehd Audioholic Jedi Sep 11, 2012 44,878 0 113 Oakridge, OR Oct 11, 2020 #98 Sachb said: I played a lot of tracks after calibration, and the sub was certainly overpowering my speakers. Sent from my LM-G710 using Tapatalk Click to expand... What do you mean by overpowering? It set the sub at too high a level? Or was easy to localize? Or?
Sachb said: I played a lot of tracks after calibration, and the sub was certainly overpowering my speakers. Sent from my LM-G710 using Tapatalk Click to expand... What do you mean by overpowering? It set the sub at too high a level? Or was easy to localize? Or?
S Sachb Full Audioholic Jun 25, 2014 388 0 18 Oct 11, 2020 #99 lovinthehd said: What do you mean by overpowering? It set the sub at too high a level? Or was easy to localize? Or? Click to expand... Was easy to localize Sent from my LM-G710 using Tapatalk
lovinthehd said: What do you mean by overpowering? It set the sub at too high a level? Or was easy to localize? Or? Click to expand... Was easy to localize Sent from my LM-G710 using Tapatalk
lovinthehd Audioholic Jedi Sep 11, 2012 44,878 0 113 Oakridge, OR Oct 11, 2020 #100 Sachb said: Was easy to localize Sent from my LM-G710 using Tapatalk Click to expand... That's not quite the same thing IMO as "overpowering" which more indicates a level problem, which is often a complaint in the other direction for sub level with these auto systems I'd suspect more than just the auto program for localization (which is a much better word to describe that phenomena), could well be placement in your room.
Sachb said: Was easy to localize Sent from my LM-G710 using Tapatalk Click to expand... That's not quite the same thing IMO as "overpowering" which more indicates a level problem, which is often a complaint in the other direction for sub level with these auto systems I'd suspect more than just the auto program for localization (which is a much better word to describe that phenomena), could well be placement in your room.
