Electric Vehicles?

[j_garcia]

Does Bezos have some ties with Rivian?

Not that I know of, but could be? Amazon was the first to sign a deal with them for delivery vans though. But Fedex, UPS and others have since signed as well.

I did some consulting for Rivian back when they were a start up, before they were even called that. Their prototype was an Ariel Atom with their electric motor, but they showed me the van too; this was ~10 years before it was released. One of their GIS people was let go and she left the server with their data locked and it was not being backed up. They could work still, but their data was sort of in limbo and at risk. I worked with the vendor and got them up and running.

Thx, I gotta check the Huyndai
The Ioniq 5N looks cool (610hp ) .... pretty pricey

640HP in 10 second bursts on launch

Pricey, but I would say a bargain for what it is capable of. Most EVs are quick, and this one certainly is, but few also handle the twisties well. Two Pike's Peak records last year means it can do it all. Not exactly what I would call a daily driver though lol.

 

[haraldo]

Not that I know of, but could be? Amazon was the first to sign a deal with them for delivery vans though. But Fedex, UPS and others have since signed as well.

I did some consulting for Rivian back when they were a start up, before they were even called that. Their prototype was an Ariel Atom with their electric motor, but they showed me the van too; this was ~10 years before it was released. One of their GIS people was let go and she left the server with their data locked and it was not being backed up. They could work still, but their data was sort of in limbo and at risk. I worked with the vendor and got them up and running.



640HP in 10 second bursts on launch

Pricey, but I would say a bargain for what it is capable of. Most EVs are quick, and this one certainly is, but few also handle the twisties well. Two Pike's Peak records last year means it can do it all. Not exactly what I would call a daily driver though lol.

You need way less than 10 seconds to lose your drivers license

 

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You need way less than 10 seconds to lose your drivers license

in more ways than one ; Shame that can't add, mental stability

Unpaid traffic tickets

Child support delinquency

Driving under the influence

Accumulating points on your license

Driving without insurance

Habitual traffic offender status

DUI conviction

Driving while license suspended or revoked

Drug possession

Not meeting the minimum vision standards

Reckless driving

 

[haraldo]

in more ways than one ; Shame that can't add, mental stability

Unpaid traffic tickets

Child support delinquency

Driving under the influence

Accumulating points on your license

Driving without insurance

Habitual traffic offender status

DUI conviction

Driving while license suspended or revoked

Drug possession

Not meeting the minimum vision standards

Reckless driving

Haha yes ... and over here, using mobile phone while driving, Police is checking like crazy
If you are caught using mobile when driving there is a $1000 fine and 3 points on the license, 8 points over 3 years .... and you lose the license...

 

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Haha yes ... and over here, using mobile phone while driving, Police is checking like crazy
If you are caught using mobile when driving there is a $1000 fine and 3 points on the license, 8 points over 3 years .... and you lose the license...

In my state FL, Yes, Florida has a law that prohibits driving while using a cell phone or other wireless device. The law Florida Statute 316.305 went into effect on July 1, 2019.

And the fine is a huge $60.00 , laughable.

 

[haraldo]

In my state FL, Yes, Florida has a law that prohibits driving while using a cell phone or other wireless device. The law Florida Statute 316.305 went into effect on July 1, 2019.

And the fine is a huge $60.00 , laughable.

yeah $1000 is rough

Guess some screens in new EVs are same dangerous but no laws here

 

[j_garcia]

Haha yes ... and over here, using mobile phone while driving, Police is checking like crazy
If you are caught using mobile when driving there is a $1000 fine and 3 points on the license, 8 points over 3 years .... and you lose the license...

Yikes. $140 here, for first offense. Maybe it would be better if it were higher.

Guess some screens in new EVs are same dangerous but no laws here

Cop Pulls Tesla Model 3 Driver Over For 'Computer' Mounted On Dashboard

We’ve spoken at length about the merits and disadvantages of the super minimal interior in the Tesla Model 3, which focuses all of the car’s information and controls on a single touchscreen. It’s hard to believe the system is road legal, and it’s something one unlucky owner caught on video...

jalopnik.com

 

[mtrycrafts]

Yikes. $140 here, for first offense. Maybe it would be better if it were higher.

Cop Pulls Tesla Model 3 Driver Over For 'Computer' Mounted On Dashboard

We’ve spoken at length about the merits and disadvantages of the super minimal interior in the Tesla Model 3, which focuses all of the car’s information and controls on a single touchscreen. It’s hard to believe the system is road legal, and it’s something one unlucky owner caught on video...

jalopnik.com

The driver should have told the police officer to pass it on in his department, so they don't pull over every Tesla.

 

[haraldo]

Yikes. $140 here, for first offense. Maybe it would be better if it were higher.
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I understand why Police is going rough on these things .... there´s been quite a few fatalaties over here where the driver was playing with the phone and crashed fatally

 

[haraldo]

I was in dialogue with the local Tesla dealership about the new Model Y and was asked if I was interested in the 2025 model. I replied that Tesla is now 100% off the radar after Musk´s stunts ......

I am probably not hearing from that side anymore

I also today heard something about an immediate drop, 40% for Tesla across the EU
In Germany you would get arrested doing what Musk did

 

[ryanosaur]

This in my news feed today.

After analysing 300m MOT records, researchers reckon electric cars are as reliable as petrol ones — BBC Top Gear Magazine

Scientists evaluate much MOT data, discover hardly any difference between EV and ICE lifespan

apple.news

Here’s another link:

https://www.topgear.com/car-news/business/after-analysing-300m-mot-records-researchers-reckon-electric-cars-are-reliable

 

[haraldo]

ABRP

A Better Routeplanner is the world's most popular consumer EV routeplanner - both for beginner and experienced EV drivers. And of course for anyone curious about EVs.

abetterrouteplanner.com

I came across this app by accident and played around a bit, route planner that seem to have all EVs on the market, tons of settings and insanely easy to use. Some of the settings require a premium plan though, but the basic things are for free. There is also a navigator and it can connect to the car for better predictions.

Maybe even a useful too for selecting the right car.... some of the cars I was considering require two charges according to the app, even though the manufacturer specs say otherwise. I just wonder how acciurate this app is.

 

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Tesla stock drops but it it due to Musk's role in Washington, or just better options from EV competitors. ABC noted it this way ""Elon Musk is to the Tesla brand what the Green Giant is to corn," "He has made himself the brand and that is always very risky."

 

[haraldo]

Re ABRP app... I did a test with BMW i5 m60 and analysing a route going from Trondheim to Bergen in Norway and the ABRP app seems to somewhat underestimate the range of that specific car, but still, better having more to go on than if the app is over-optimistic. The owner gets a 423 trip with a short 15 minute pitstop charging to 80%. (The app say it may be somewhat shorter than 423 miles, it may be slightly different route))

That trip is possible with one charging while the app say 2 is required but .... it could anyways be better to be on the safe side.... BMW specs also claim around 278 miles range for that BMW i5 m60 touring.

I like this app, but I don´t have EV yet

 

[haraldo]

Tesla stock drops but it it due to Musk's role in Washington, or just better options from EV competitors. ABC noted it this way ""Elon Musk is to the Tesla brand what the Green Giant is to corn," "He has made himself the brand and that is always very risky."

Audun Wickstrand Iversen; One of the chief investors in DNB Markets in Norway, doing investment bank clearly believe Tesla to be a major winner this year. he knows what he is doing as most of his investments have given up to 70% gain the last few years.

He claims these things we see now.... will just disappear and he is probably buying tons of Tesla stocks now as they are dropping. his bet is that Tesla will double in 2025. in three quarters, no-one will care about the Musk "stunts" anymore, he claims.

He believes Tesla will be $750 in one year, now being at $355.84

Iversen believes that at least one or two major car producers in Europe will come crawling to Musk, really soon, and request an opportunity to "license" Tesla

Also pointing to Toyota and Volkswagen...... it´s do or die for them now

 

[highfigh]

In my state FL, Yes, Florida has a law that prohibits driving while using a cell phone or other wireless device. The law Florida Statute 316.305 went into effect on July 1, 2019.

And the fine is a huge $60.00 , laughable.

But so many are on fixed income....

 

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But so many are on fixed income....

for sure. Sad but true.

, also some info

The four states with the highest percentage of people 65 and older in 2022 were Maine (23%), Florida (22%), Vermont (22%) and West Virginia (21%). In three states, the 65 and older population increased by more than 50% between 2012 and 2022: Alaska (63%), Idaho (55%), and Delaware (51%).

The 2022 median income of older people was $29,740 ($37,430 for men and $24,630 for women).

Per the; Administration for Community Living.gov

 

[haraldo]

for sure. Sad but true.

, also some info

The four states with the highest percentage of people 65 and older in 2022 were Maine (23%), Florida (22%), Vermont (22%) and West Virginia (21%). In three states, the 65 and older population increased by more than 50% between 2012 and 2022: Alaska (63%), Idaho (55%), and Delaware (51%).

The 2022 median income of older people was $29,740 ($37,430 for men and $24,630 for women).

Per the; Administration for Community Living.gov

WTF ... that median income

 

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WTF ... that median income

Have a read, as a 72 year old, its depressing what a lot of seniors are going through. https://acl.gov/sites/default/files/Profile of OA/ACL_ProfileOlderAmericans2023_508.pdf

 

[haraldo]

Have a read, as a 72 year old, its depressing what a lot of seniors are going through. https://acl.gov/sites/default/files/Profile of OA/ACL_ProfileOlderAmericans2023_508.pdf

Sorry to hear
I don't have acces to the document