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Audioholic Slumlord
What you say about the conservation of energy & mater is certainly true. At the same time, switching to electricity from burning gasoline does offer some real advantages.

I'd be very cautious at believing any article that claims EVs are worse for the environment than internal combustion vehicles. Many of them are the indirect result of propaganda from Big Oil. This has been directly modeled by the propaganda from Big Tobacco, years ago, that swore no link existed between smoking and lung disease.
Similar to reports being produced by companies that mine and develop batteries that claim very little environmental impact. Like I said previously, it will be very difficult to assertain the truth because of political slants.
 
j_garcia

j_garcia

Audioholic Jedi
Similar to reports being produced by companies that mine and develop batteries that claim very little environmental impact. Like I said previously, it will be very difficult to assertain the truth because of political slants.
IMO, politics are not the issue. MONEY is, and businesses are the man behind the curtain telling you what they want you to hear to get you to buy what they are selling. Whichever way they lean, they will dig something up that supports it.
 
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Audioholic Slumlord
IMO, politics are not the issue. MONEY is, and businesses are the man behind the curtain telling you what they want you to hear to get you to buy what they are selling. Whichever way they lean, they will dig something up that supports it.
Money or the desire to control it is politics.
 
haraldo

haraldo

Audioholic Warlord
Mazda bluff?

Mazda is now introducing with champagne and laurels, what they claim is their new Mazda Model 6.

What they seem to forget here is that this seems to mjust be a rebadged noname Chinese car.

This seem to be a rebadged Changan Shenlan SL03. The battery, motors, software and most of the bodywork are exactly the same as the SL03. This car is the first model ever from the Chinese Changan company :rolleyes:
The only things from Mazda is badging, the front fascia, and the tail lights o_O

 
cpp

cpp

Audioholic Ninja
Mazda bluff?

Mazda is now introducing with champagne and laurels, what they claim is their new Mazda Model 6.

What they seem to forget here is that this seems to mjust be a rebadged noname Chinese car.

This seem to be a rebadged Changan Shenlan SL03. The battery, motors, software and most of the bodywork are exactly the same as the SL03. This car is the first model ever from the Chinese Changan company :rolleyes:
The only things from Mazda is badging, the front fascia, and the tail lights o_O

The SL03 interesting

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j_garcia

j_garcia

Audioholic Jedi
In order to have an EV in their lineup, Mazda had to partner with someone quick. Not sure it is the right way to go. Since they threw in the towel with their own EV and moved to primarily hybrids. Just like Honda partnered with GM, because they did not see there being a demand and now they are behind.
 
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haraldo

haraldo

Audioholic Warlord
In order to have an EV in their lineup, Mazda had to partner with someone quick. Not sure it is the right way to go. Since they threw in the towel with their own EV and moved to primarily hybrids. Just like Honda partnered with GM, because they did not see there being a demand and now they are behind.
Mazda already had an EV in their lineup for years, Mazda MX-30 is cheap, crappy and with sub-standard range, but they already have an EV. Launched in October 2020.
(Range = 124 miles max, in practice maybe 100 miles o_O)



 
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j_garcia

j_garcia

Audioholic Jedi
Mazda already had an EV in their lineup for years, Mazda MX-30 is cheap, crappy and with sub-standard range, but they already have an EV. Launched in October 2020.
(Range = 124 miles max, in practice maybe 100 miles o_O)



Discontinued last year because they couldn't make a profit on them and keep developing them in-house.
 
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