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Audioholic Slumlord
Swerd said:
What you say about the conservation of energy & mater is certainly true. At the same time, switching to electricity from burning gasoline does offer some real advantages.

I'd be very cautious at believing any article that claims EVs are worse for the environment than internal combustion vehicles. Many of them are the indirect result of propaganda from Big Oil. This has been directly modeled by the propaganda from Big Tobacco, years ago, that swore no link existed between smoking and lung disease.
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Similar to reports being produced by companies that mine and develop batteries that claim very little environmental impact. Like I said previously, it will be very difficult to assertain the truth because of political slants.
 
j_garcia

j_garcia

Audioholic Jedi
3db said:
Similar to reports being produced by companies that mine and develop batteries that claim very little environmental impact. Like I said previously, it will be very difficult to assertain the truth because of political slants.
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IMO, politics are not the issue. MONEY is, and businesses are the man behind the curtain telling you what they want you to hear to get you to buy what they are selling. Whichever way they lean, they will dig something up that supports it.
 
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Audioholic Slumlord
j_garcia said:
IMO, politics are not the issue. MONEY is, and businesses are the man behind the curtain telling you what they want you to hear to get you to buy what they are selling. Whichever way they lean, they will dig something up that supports it.
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Money or the desire to control it is politics.
 
haraldo

haraldo

Audioholic Warlord
Mazda bluff?

Mazda is now introducing with champagne and laurels, what they claim is their new Mazda Model 6.

MAZDA NEWSROOM｜Mazda Introduce the All-NEW ‘Mazda6e’ Battery EV in Europe｜NEWS RELEASES

Everything you need to know about what's going on. Includes up to date news releases, production and sales results and archives, or sign up for your own RSS news feed.
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What they seem to forget here is that this seems to mjust be a rebadged noname Chinese car.

This seem to be a rebadged Changan Shenlan SL03. The battery, motors, software and most of the bodywork are exactly the same as the SL03. This car is the first model ever from the Chinese Changan company :rolleyes:
The only things from Mazda is badging, the front fascia, and the tail lights o_O

 
cpp

cpp

Audioholic Ninja
haraldo said:
Mazda bluff?

Mazda is now introducing with champagne and laurels, what they claim is their new Mazda Model 6.

MAZDA NEWSROOM｜Mazda Introduce the All-NEW ‘Mazda6e’ Battery EV in Europe｜NEWS RELEASES

Everything you need to know about what's going on. Includes up to date news releases, production and sales results and archives, or sign up for your own RSS news feed.
newsroom.mazda.com newsroom.mazda.com

What they seem to forget here is that this seems to mjust be a rebadged noname Chinese car.

This seem to be a rebadged Changan Shenlan SL03. The battery, motors, software and most of the bodywork are exactly the same as the SL03. This car is the first model ever from the Chinese Changan company :rolleyes:
The only things from Mazda is badging, the front fascia, and the tail lights o_O

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The SL03 interesting

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j_garcia

j_garcia

Audioholic Jedi
In order to have an EV in their lineup, Mazda had to partner with someone quick. Not sure it is the right way to go. Since they threw in the towel with their own EV and moved to primarily hybrids. Just like Honda partnered with GM, because they did not see there being a demand and now they are behind.
 
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haraldo

haraldo

Audioholic Warlord
j_garcia said:
In order to have an EV in their lineup, Mazda had to partner with someone quick. Not sure it is the right way to go. Since they threw in the towel with their own EV and moved to primarily hybrids. Just like Honda partnered with GM, because they did not see there being a demand and now they are behind.
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Mazda already had an EV in their lineup for years, Mazda MX-30 is cheap, crappy and with sub-standard range, but they already have an EV. Launched in October 2020.
(Range = 124 miles max, in practice maybe 100 miles o_O)



Mazda MX-30 | Electric Car | Mazda UK

Discover the Mazda MX-30, Crafted in Japan, featuring unique Kodo design language, the Mazda MX-30 is an Electric Car.
www.mazda.co.uk www.mazda.co.uk
 
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j_garcia

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haraldo said:
Mazda already had an EV in their lineup for years, Mazda MX-30 is cheap, crappy and with sub-standard range, but they already have an EV. Launched in October 2020.
(Range = 124 miles max, in practice maybe 100 miles o_O)



Mazda MX-30 | Electric Car | Mazda UK

Discover the Mazda MX-30, Crafted in Japan, featuring unique Kodo design language, the Mazda MX-30 is an Electric Car.
www.mazda.co.uk www.mazda.co.uk
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Discontinued last year because they couldn't make a profit on them and keep developing them in-house.
 
j_garcia

j_garcia

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haraldo

haraldo

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j_garcia said:
I see, looks like only discontinued in the US.

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Yeah .... who in the US would wanna buy an EV with a range of 100 miles? o_O
25+ years ago there were cars like this in Norway .... but now, that´s a joke of a car :D

There was an EV explosion when the EV cars were excempt from tolls on new bridges, in the late 1990s, it could be US$ 14$ per crossing, turns out to be a lot of money, so people bought these crazy bad EV cars, good enough to driving to and from work.

The Mazda MX-30 seem to be in that league of cars insanely unusable for general purpose driving. LOL :D
 
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haraldo

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Seriously also, I do have serious issues undertstanding VW, their ID.4 has drum. brakes, something that was legacy technology 25 years ago.... so when there is emergensy and you need to stop crazy fast you can´t.

The difference can be "no issue" or killing a pedestrian :eek:
Very very not good enough VW to put legacy tech and bad brakes on a new car .... for this reason alone VW is NO-GO for me!

Carbon ceramic disc brakes is the thing :cool:
 
Matt34

Matt34

Moderator
haraldo said:
Seriously also, I do have serious issues undertstanding VW, their ID.4 has drum. brakes, something that was legacy technology 25 years ago.... so when there is emergensy and you need to stop crazy fast you can´t.

The difference can be "no issue" or killing a pedestrian :eek:
Very very not good enough VW to put legacy tech and bad brakes on a new car .... for this reason alone VW is NO-GO for me!

Carbon ceramic disc brakes is the thing :cool:
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I've read a couple articles, basically a cost reduction benefit for the manufacture and since EV's can rely on regenerative braking the rear brakes are being used to a lesser extent.
 
j_garcia

j_garcia

Audioholic Jedi
You don't 100% rely on the brakes with an EV now as you have regenerative braking that utilizes the motors, but that doesn't mean any modern car should have drum brakes. It has been a decades since I owned a car with drum brakes.
 
haraldo

haraldo

Audioholic Warlord
Matt34 said:
I've read a couple articles, basically a cost reduction benefit for the manufacture and since EV's can rely on regenerative braking the rear brakes are being used to a lesser extent.
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Brakes are there to stop in an emergency and VW disable that possibility now :eek:

I have tried some emergency braking tests in my BMW 730D and the brakes are absolutely insane
The idea is to stop in minimum distance and BMW730D does that with flying colors

What VW does here is IMHO completely unacceptable and they make a safety concern
Enough for me to NOT consider VW now!

I think VW management are idiots doping these things!, well they do a great history of cheating everyone... including their customers..... And VW saying .... we don´t wanna give you proper brakes :eek:

If VW going bankrupt they asked for it IMHO
 
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